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They are supposedly in a sort of null fund, except it is not a true null fund. People do have access. Basically they have recreated (and grown) Ned's stake. Except now this stake is in the hands of the witnesses who began the chain. Supposedly it is open so that people can "appeal" the blacklist and still get a drop if their appeal is successful. (I haven't appealed.) It certainly leaves us with a lot of questions doesn't it? Why do it this way? Why not just take fresh code over? Why copy everything, including people's personal content? Why not have everyone start at the same point, wouldn't that be fair? That way people can invest if they like, or not. That way power is not centralized. My instinct has always been that the witnesses were overly comfortable in their positions, with their regular pay, that they didn't like it one bit when that position was threatened. (Hence their hostile hard fork when Justin bought Ned's stake.) The "new" chain is a way to ensure their paycheck keeps coming. I think this is about money, and not at all about doing what is right (especially by what I have seen). But of course, it is more palatable to dress it up under the guise of doing the *right thing* and *protecting decentralization*. But, they have taken all the problems with them to a new chain, including the problems surrounding the centralization of power. From my perspective, their copy of the chain is even more centralized. I am curious to see how they will fare against the legal problems that are just getting started. Should be interesting. I personally removed all of my content off of Hive. Every single post. I won't have my name or content on something that I believe to be illegal.
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> Except now this stake is in the hands of the witnesses who began the chain. All hail the new [HIVE KINGS](https://hiveKINGS.com/)
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and according to lukestokes they only need two thirds plus 1 of the top twenty to implement a change to the rules. wow i looked at the link !
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> wow i looked at the link ! Yeah, I was calling them KINGS already, I can't believe they actually call THEMSELVES KINGS.
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Yeah, that was always my point. How is it a community when the community really has very little to no say. How *decentralized*!
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I like the name. Full disclosure. Kings of a stolen empire. People thought I was joking when I called them Kings. It's funny because they mocked Justin and called him the King of Steem. Yet, here we are: Hive Kings. I am telling you, truth *is* stranger than fiction.
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>Why not have everyone start at the same point, wouldn't that be fair? That way people can invest if they like, or not. That way power is not centralized. They want it to be centralized. I made a comment stressing the reality of that a few day ago, to someone on one of Steemchillers posts the one before last I think. Whithin two hours I am not able to access my wallet on the Hive front end. I can still access it with peakd. Anyway this may interest you: This is a list of accounts associated with baah and bloom all funded by Steemit inc and only used to flag accounts. It is not a full list because i did not think anyone gave a shit. If you think its worth continuing please let me know. I really appreciate the work you are doing. mandraki grenilcu brassir artrilstev rezdam clirkliev warzi blickhil dentbos nedrykp septima moille pfisbrem arxiov santfroo azmgaird catzib zigonum trimcor inbort trevtic posfica catrism wraist belegas trimust afsol sercifik merdujo pollentic seildo lirdin paeng vreislo qualistit draesvum kkoui cheescer chiomna anstaf afsol zalimo puabni prodef ezffermi encuke batird borstad azmiges kzalembraz frsicola
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Right, which is my conclusion as well. I would not be surprised if you have been retaliated against. They seem to have a very interesting interpretation of the "free speech". Especially, after all their talk about censorship. I find it interesting that the story given to the press was that only Justin's and Justin's affiliates stakes were withheld from the drop. I wasn't working for Justin. I wasn't his affiliate, nor were/are most of other people/accounts excluded. The way I have been treated, gives me a lot of sympathy for how Justin was treated. The accounts I listed above appear(as far as I understand) to have been funded via Steemit. I wondered *why* Ned had said the witnesses had stolen Steem. I wonder if this is what he meant? I searched your list. All are already on my list, except for: nedrykp(user not found, is there a typo perhaps?) arxiov(user not found, is there a typo perhaps?) zigonum(user not found, is there a typo perhaps?) I am going to continue working on the list in my spare time. I personally think it *is* worth it, because it exposes something that should not continue. I am hopefully we will see some changes coming.
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The were all copy paste so if you get user not found, something has happened with the status of those accounts. I have posted a shorter list on comments before once in a comment to baah himself and the complete list to others. I will go look for the comment to baah and look for a correlation with the short list i gave to him.
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