RE: Is It Ethical To Eat Meat? by andrewlarson

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life · @andrewlarson · Jun 24 '17 (edited)

$2.51

We ate meat and that's why our brains evolved. Factory farming is terrible of course but I think all of nature feeds on itself (lions hunting gazelle or whatever) and humans are part of nature. Plus, bacon!
https://media.giphy.com/media/Ff2LmUUzZQAeY/giphy.gif

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@dlina-v-metrah · Jun 24 '17

Yes, people have both a brain and a stomach - from a predator. Like a bear.

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@discernente · Jun 24 '17 (edited)

The problem is, these animals living artificial lives  suffer more than their counterparts living in nature. And it can be measured by the level of stress, hormones, inflammation levels, diseases,  nutritional deficiencies. It is almost a torture to them.

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@andrewlarson · Jun 24 '17

Pigs in the wild can become *insanely* vicious. Ever heard of HOG WILD? Why not humanely kill them and make bacon? 
https://media.giphy.com/media/tAgy3YZ3nCYko/giphy.gif

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@teamsteem · Jun 24 '17

Also lions rape and kill cubs that aren't their. They aren't a good measure for what is moral or not. 

Primate brains may have grown larger and more complex thanks to a fruit-filled diet, a new study suggests.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/03/27/521423216/what-gave-some-primates-bigger-brains-a-fruit-filled-diet

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@andrewlarson · Jun 24 '17

That article is interesting. The reason they have bigger brains is because it's harder to find fruit. It also said that meat eaters had bigger brains than leaf eaters. That's enough for me!

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@teamsteem · Jun 24 '17

Your conclusions aren't based on the article or you miss read that article. 

>Previous studies have shown that larger groups of primates with more complex social structures are correlated with larger brains. In fact, scientists have used that idea – called the social brain hypothesis – to explain why humans and certain other primates like chimpanzees and bonobos have bigger brains than other primate species. (Now, diet is thought to have played a big role in making human brains bigger than any of our primate cousin's. As we've reported before, scientists think eating cooked meat gave our bodies some extra energy to fuel the building of bigger brains.)

>But the authors of the new study compared body size, diet, and social lives (factors like whether they were solitary or lived in pairs, monogamous or polygynous, and the size of their groups) of these various primate species to their average brain sizes. Overall, diet appeared to be a more consistent predictor of brain size for a species than social complexity — brain sized increased with fruit eating more consistently than with greater number of social connections.

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@heather2000 · Jun 24 '17

$0.07

Yes but at least these animals fight for it.  We humans, in turn, just have animals caged up for slaughter, pretty much negating any chance of them ever surviving.  A gazelle may still be able to escape a lion if it reacts fast enough or something.

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@teamsteem · Jun 24 '17

True.

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@crypticskeptic · Jun 24 '17

$0.54

True. I just can't wait for synthetic meat. When I talk to others about this, they say that's gross or unappetizing, but it's just meat lol - I think if anything it's more gross to eat meat that was attached to a suffering animal than grown using scientific means. Synthetic meat has the potential to be tastier and cheaper, and that's mainly what will normalize it for people.

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