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The purpose of the change was to allow for the creation of more SBD to hinder "pump" attempts that raise SBD beyond it's intended peg value of $1 USD. But it's important to note that the increase in potential SBD doesn't risk the sovereign debt problem that the US has: the STEEM blockchain is designed to linearly stop honoring the ability to convert the SBD to Steem at the rate of $1 worth of Steem when the debt ratio goes above 10%. Think of it like a built-in promise of the Steem blockchain to hyper-inflate SBD's value vs Steem during the period that "too much" SBD is in circulation.
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Hey, @blocktrades. I appreciate the response here. I was aware of the failsafe for SBDs, so that's good to know that this isn't something that would somehow override it. Okay, so allowing a higher percentage of debt essentially hinders pumps on SBD because the price drops with more SBD in circulation, so to speak? Or is it the opposite. This is where it gets a little murky for me. The whole idea of having a stable token that is still publicly traded and thus open to speculation.
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The intent of SBD is not that it be 'open to speculation' other than speculation within a narrow range and relatively short time period due to liquidity considerations (with enough volume, a speculator can make a large amount of money betting that SBD at $0.99 will rise to $1.01 or vice versa). Instead of a speculatively determined price, increased demand for SBD should result in more SBD being circulated and decreased demand for SBD should result in less SBD being circulated, in both cases pushing the price back toward $1. The current mechanism doesn't fully implement this but that is the intent, and the proposed change gets a bit closer while removing an odd quirk how the thresholds are currently set: between 5% and 10% there is literally _nothing_ being done by the system to control or even influence either the supply or value of SBD (none of it being created nor destroyed, backing ratio not affected, etc.). No one really intended to create a market cap ratio 'window' for fully-free-floating SBD with no controls at all; it seems to have been an accident. EDIT: @timcliff in his reply also noted some other perverse effects of the mechanism of shifting payouts from SBD to STEEM, which are good points too. By reducing size of the range where this occurs those effects are reduced, which is good. (I, and numerous other stakeholders and witnesses, would like to see more done, but this is a great start and kudos to @timcliff for getting it implemented and scheduled for the hard fork.)
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Hey, @smooth. Thanks for this. I'm learning a lot from you all today. :) Okay. So, a void or limbo area was created unintentionally between 5-10% so that whatever is suppose to happen (create or destroy SBD) happens. Sounds like a great idea to me. So, basically this was unknown until the current situation revealed it, then, if I'm understanding correctly.
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Oh that's an awesome upgrade :D
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