Steemit took down @thedarkoverlord by boyanpro

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· @boyanpro · (edited)
Steemit took down @thedarkoverlord
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Here is the fact about which our community is very quiet. Steemit removed @thedarkoverlord. I wouldn't go into discussion about ethics and moral of @thedarkoverlord endeavors. But what is the most painful here is that Steemit by removing @thedarkoverlord also removed our comments and upvotes. This, together with last @ned's fiasco with dismantling STINC up to the point where he almost screwed everything is enough for us as community to start thinking how to get rid of STINC and Steemit.

The only question now is are we up to the given task?
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@masterthematrix ·
very concerning indeed!
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@flipstar ·
How they got remove? I can still See their posts with upvotes and comments
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@boyanpro ·
Maybe on Partiko or Steampeak, but not on Steemit.

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@baah · (edited)
Maybe put a mention that they have been removed ONLY from steemitINC.com and that it has absolutely nothing to do with STEEM, aka remove the misleading diagram.
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@nokodemion ·
This is all a joke... the steem blockchain that is...
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@boyanpro ·
I wouldn't fully agree. The community is great. Also the blockchain is great. The blockchain is super fast, it is processing a transaction much faster than some of the most known blockchains.

What really is a joke her is Steemit and Steem Inc (STINC).

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@novacadian · (edited)
>What really is a joke her is Steemit and Steem Inc (STINC).

Too true. Probably some of the best PR for the censor-less nature of the platform and STINC shuts it down while there are tons of refugees from FB and YouTube looking for a platform. This is even more stupid than the HF20 roll out.
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@blakemiles84 ·
ohh. i get it. you're just a troll. answers a lot

fuck off
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@inertia ·
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Calm down, they're still on the blockchain.
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@boyanpro ·
Of course they are. But they aren't on the most popular Steem client the @ned's Steemit.

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@inertia ·
Then why are you intentionally spreading FUD?
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@boyanpro ·
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Also real question is what else did they censored.

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@smitop ·
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Currently the following people have their Steemit account "deleted": 
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Some users have single posts that have their contents replaced with a message saying that the content is illegal, but nobody else has their entire account removed from Steemit.
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@kabir88 · (edited)
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Steemit front end was created and ran by steemit Inc, they can take what action they like and they will reap the consequences.

Why should they risk years of litigation for someone who is basically acting like a digital blackmailer. If their content is so great, do a Snowden and share it.

Luckily, there are many other front ends available. So it's no real news at all.

Please stop the fud. They were not removed from the blockchain.
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@boyanpro ·
Where did I write that they are removed from the blockchain?
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@kabir88 ·
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If you don't like it, present us with a better option. Otherwise you're wasting everyone's time.

Steemit Inc hold millions in funds that can be used to develop the blockchain.

You want the community to cut them loose and turn to who? You?

It's easy to pull things down, much harder to build something
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@actifit-peter ·
Totally agree. See my comment below.
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@onnovocks ·
They risk years of litigation anyway if they don't curb accounts like DSJ. Why go after 1 and not the other? Too many accounts are not who or what they say they are and it's getting a little thick here.

Have a good one @kabir88!
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@kabir88 ·
I am no fan of steemit Inc, but when you operate a business that has a legal presence in the real world, legal considerations do matter.

I don't know the reasons for the inconsistency. It will just be another one of these mysteries I guess.
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@actifit-peter ·
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It was always clear to me that Steemit Inc. is able to delete accounts (access via steemit.com).  Did anyone ever read the TOS (Terms of Services)??? It clearly states:

> 22.Termination
We reserve the right, without notice and in our sole discretion, to terminate your license to access and use of the Service, which includes, steemit.com, and to block or prevent your future access to, and use of, the Service that we provide.

So, there is no reason to complain or fuss about it. The moment you apply and get a Steemit account (or busy, whatever, the TOS are similar) you agree to the Terms of Service.
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@elgeko ·
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@boyanpro ·
Of course we know that Steem is not Steemit. But why are you fogging the fact that Steemit is the most known interface for Steem? And that Steemit is first resource for potential new users? Lots of users left because of Steemit wrongdoings.
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@steemitboard ·
Congratulations @boyanpro! You have completed the following achievement on the Steem blockchain and have been rewarded with new badge(s) :

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@whatsup ·
$0.06
1. blockchain diagram is misleading
2. demonetizing something isn't censorship
3.  A lot of people get SteemIt and Steem confused.

You'll be okay...

Here is what I recommend:  Use a different front end.  To be fair, I didn't love the decision to remove their posts either.

Also, these are the lamest hackers I've ever heard of.  So, there is also that.
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@boyanpro ·
$0.03
Does Busy take percentage from rewards?
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@whatsup ·
No, they do not.  And they give a nice upvote based on your followers.
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@practicalthought ·
$0.78
>where he almost screwed everything is enough for us as community to start thinking how to get rid of STINC and Steemit.

You can get rid of them at anytime you wish by choosing not to log onto THEIR site. Not sure who "we" are that you are referencing. 

I have seen several posts lately suggesting a fork take place that would rob the founders of their stake. Maybe that is the we you reference. That would be suicide, not only from the public scrutiny on the sidelines, but for any potential future investors who would rightly worry their holdings would be what, stolen from them if they failed to meet your approval? Not sure what else you might be implying by getting rid of them.
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@boyanpro ·
"We" is the community. And "getting rid of them" implies combination of marketing, code development and infrastructure development in purpose of diminishing Steemit importance, especially for the new users, to the point where nobody will regularly use it. Is that too hard to comprehend?
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@baah · (edited)
$0.03
No, you don't represent me, OR the community. As far as I'm concerned you speak ONLY for yourself and whoever else is idiotic enough to consider your nonsensical bullshit of "how fraudulent steemit is" or "everything the blockchain stands for" as intrepid and not idiotic nonsense as it's evident this action STEEMIT took has nothing to do with the blockchain OR everything it stands for.

Yeah it's hard to comprehended that you are some kind of voice for the community or that what Steemit did requires that they get tossed to the curb, only an insensitive idiot will "ride or die" for these tools being removed by Steemit, maybe if it was something that didn't directly violate Steemits TOS or if you could successfully make an argument that their TOS are unfair or very restrictive or at fault somehow then people might *consider* it, but seeing as you still haven't removed the misleading diagram and still persist with nonsensical "this action is against everything the blockchain stands for" trying to justify it.
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![tumblr_n7mqge6uos1tuwbfjo1_1280.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/kabir88/z4LjTjFb-tumblr_n7mqge6uos1tuwbfjo1_1280.jpg)
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@sco · (edited)
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You basically demand that Steemit, a registered commercial company, should risk prosecution and elimination to publish a blackmailing hacker. No sane CEO would do that, and if @ned would, I would seriously question his management abilities.
Steemit inc. has the full rights to remove that content and to banish the user. As others pointed out, it'll still be on the blockchain and other frontends can decide otherwise if they want. The game is called free market... If there is more gain than loss in publishing that stuff, there'll be publishers. If not, not.
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@boyanpro ·
1. I don't demand anything. I'm just pointing out that STINC looks the same as Facebook, while they are claiming that they are different.

2. @ned already proved incompetent in his recent fiasco.

3. I'm not discussing STINC's rights, I'm pointing out that they are creating gap between Steem and Steemit. But somebody already wrote, that's actually good thing. That's one more step in Steemit not being #1 interface to Steem. Like right now, I'm writing this from Busy.org.
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@baah · (edited)
"You basically demand". Vs "You demand". _facepalm_.

You basically demand that they shouldn't remove blackmailing hackers. Nough said.
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@baah ·
To you, removing blackmailing hackers from the front end is the same as the censorship FB does, as you indicate that there's no difference. Nough said.

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@boyanpro ·
$0.07
Thanks a lot to all fellow steemians upvoting this post! Thanks for saving it! Thanks for fighting against SP bullies! Thanks for fighting for freedom of speech! 
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@baah ·
Freedom of spreading FUD.

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@runicar ·
Very concerning indeed. Even more so with the outrage of some users in the comments and the flags which made the post "invisible".
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@boyanpro ·
Still there are lots of good people here saving the day. Thanks everybody for your support!
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @boyanpro!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steem Hit Parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20190107) in the following category:

* Comments - Ranked 7 with 81 comments
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@boyanpro ·
Thanks! :)

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@arcange ·
You hit both the newcomers and global hit-parade. Well done!
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@darth-azrael ·
$0.03
There's no need to get rid of steemit. Just use whatever alternative you like. Fortunately, there are several. You could also create your own. It is the blockchain that is censorship resistant, not any individual interface. If I were to create an interface, i could choose to censor it or not however I want. I don't necessarily agree with Steemit's choice here but it is their's to make.
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@boyanpro ·
That argument would be OK, if Steemit wouldn't be #1 interface often confused with Steem blockchain by common users. Steemit and STINC affect whole blockchain and the community by their actions and irresponsible behavior.

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@baah ·
No they don't affect the whole blockchain at all. It does no justice to further confuse people on the issue of STEEM vs STEEMIT by making this about the blockchain or using misleading graphics to indicate that this SOMEHOW has anything to do with the blockchain when it has NOTHING to do with it, so you're clearly spreading fud. It was not irresponsible to delete a blackmailing hacker group from the frontend, it was clearly and completely irresponsible to imply this had anything to do with the blockchain while basically saying that their action has anything to do with the blockchain in the comments attempting to justify the FUD spreading diagram. It was also completely irresponsible to speak on behalf of the community. It was also completely irresponsible to call people names, talk about their ability to comprehend or throw shade on it. It was also completely irresponsible to deem this act, as damaging to the community or as the equivalent of what Facebook is doing.

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@arcange ·
Congratulations @boyanpro!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steem Hit Parade for newcomers](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-for-newcomers-20190107) in the following category:

* Comments - Ranked 1 with 81 comments

I also upvoted your post to increase its reward
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@boyanpro ·
$0.04
Thanks!!! I voted for your witness. I'll ask my wife to do the same.

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@arcange ·
Thank you so much for your support and witness vote @boyanpro, really appreciated!
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@fbslo ·
Please do not spread the FUD. Steem Blockchain is 100% censorship free. 

1. 
>But what is the most painful here is that Steemit by removing @thedarkoverlord also removed our comments and upvotes.

What? They can't remove anything. They just removed them from front-end, they are still on blockchain and visible with other block explorers and front-ends.

2. What is this?
![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRHU5YFV3YVJ1yQeBC6xYTzq3Fjb6R4kvYCeUTvkb49j6/image.png)

This are blocks and I don't see any connection to Steemit.com that removed @thedarkoverlord for breaking the ToS.
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@boyanpro ·
> What? They can't remove anything. They just removed them from front-end, they are still on blockchain and visible with other block explorers and front-ends.

I wrote exactly that: "Steemit removed". Are you another asskisser or just plain stupid?
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@fbslo ·
Maybe you understand this, but many users will think that Steemit removed them from Steem. You should be more precise.
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