Hi @clayop, I has read and resteem your post, I'll be right back, thanks

I translate to indonesia :
Moderator sebuah desa dapat memasukkan daftar putih atau daftar hitam pengguna. Itu berarti, jika pengguna melakukan pelanggaran, dia dapat diblokir oleh mods untuk dikirim ke desa. Selain itu, seperti suara saksi, pengguna bisa memilih desa. Tapi tidak seperti suara saksi, desa bisa diunggulkan atau diturunkan. Jika sebuah desa memiliki nilai pemungutan suara negatif, semua pos di desa tersebut tidak dapat diberi imbalan (yaitu desa di desa tersebut dianggap nol). Downvote on post sudah usang dan digantikan oleh downvote di desa, yang merupakan kelompok posting yang dikelola oleh satu set mods.

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@mukhtar.juned 
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great project to support steemit and reduce abusive content welldone best of luck 4 the system

Wow! This is amazing. Like a small eco-system. And you hit the nail on the head with the word "Village". Well done!

This reminds me of humans who still live in tribes or villages - they are less likely to suffer from depression and overall the village has a lower crimerate than cities because noone is left alone. They support each other. In a city - many people live next to each other - but nobody knows anybody. Similar to Steemit - it's so big that abusers can do their thing.

Great contribution to the discussion. Generally, I think having strong moderators in each community sub who work together cooperatively is preferable to having a global police force.

Great article! your idea can really help steemit become more friendly and free from abusers

Maybe the community feature announced in the 2017 Road Map could bring us similar functions. Thanks and good luck again!

Hey @clayop that's an interesting proposal.  I have one question and one observation -

<strong>Would abusers be given a chance to reform?</strong>  Or abuser just be moved from "village" to village without ever having another chance to be rewarded for good behavior?

You have to take into consideration that there loads of articles online (some even here at Steemit) which 'teach' new users to essentially 'game' the system.

Chances are that many new users wont even know that they are doing anything wrong.

So would there be a chance for reform?

<strong>Lastly, I don't know that downvoting a village (rather than the individual) would be very fair to the residents.</strong>  Furthermore, it may stifle free thought and expression.  I don't really want my neighbors in the "village" becoming the #Thought-Police.

Just imagine if some the neighborhood starts posting about politics... somebody (or several people) is about  to get kicked out of the village and labeled an abuser.

I commend you for your creative proposal but it may need some amount of amendment to make things more practical and to keep free thought alive here at Steemit.

This is amazing idea. We still have to discuss how much one (or a group of people?) should pay for the village, or according to which standard we should devide villages, or how do we establish each village(by tag maybe? or other technical way?), etc. But I think this is a firm step toward the "spam-free, abusing-free Steemit." Thank you for the wonderful idea. :)

This is a good post and I am happy that you thought about a way to fight abuse. 

From my understanding the concept of villages is similar to what Steemit.inc is working on, communities. Even though I am looking very much forward to the implementation of this I am not sure it can address the in my view most damaging abuse which are **bot self upvotes**.

Checking the content of either village or community still remains a manual task by humans and therefore has only minimal effect in fighting bot votes. 

To effectively change this kind of abuse I think a code change to comment rewards is required that either 

- Reduce comment payouts.
- Prevents self votes. (e.g. if post and comment IP match than block vote).
- Remove comment rewards entirely.

I think this is too complicated.

Very interesting idea. I think as it stands right now that Steemit is still going to leave things in the hands of the people to control and direct so downvoting is our only option for the time being. However I do think they will need to address these issues as Steemit grows or it will just implode on itself and self destruct into a common Porn and filth site along with every other scam and sin out there. There is a fine line and we as users need to address, report and downvote anything that doesn't fit in within the Steemit community. If people would come together on this more we could keep the Steemit community more in control by the users and not by Steemit.

Well thought out and explained. Not quite sure about the fee structure though. But thanks for sharing your ideas.

I have a question! When you say "self-vote for rewards"...what do you mean? Do you mean that check-mark next to "Upvote post" when we create post or you mean creating another account and voting for ourselves? 
   P.S. I'm new here..so still learning ^_^

It sounds very interesting. Just got one question. How could a small village that is full of good people survive from any intentional attacks from larger dominating vilages or individuals? We have seen so many cases that some political issues made people bully some innocent minorities. Do you have a plan to prevent that happen systemically?

This is very educational @clayop. I am a newbie and been here 10 days learning.  This post helps me to  understand how this steemboat functions and has its oil.  Upvoted you and followed.

Thank you very much for your witness vote!  I am voting for your witness also!

I like your system to collaborate in managing abuse because it would be a big improvement over what we have.  Thank you for saying it is on blockchain in another comment reply instead of off because this is what I wanted to know after reading!

@clayop  This is  a very good idea! We 100% have to do something about the abuse here. And instead of just complaining you came up with a great way to help fight it!

I am a witness that supports the Minnow Support Project, and over there in discord we just came up with a new channel to put abusers into, where once in there they can make their plea to be let back into general channel.. It's a step in the right direction to stop scams and abuse on Steemit

SMART !

this solves nothing.

you are starting with a very specific problem -- abusers with a lot of steem power getting paid a lot of money for very low quality content. if you stick them all in villiages together, the bad villiages will be gettiung the same upvotes the bad users currently get.

The solution is what it has always been:  people with enough sense to know better downvote shitty content.  Its really as simple as that.  And it will either work or it won't.  And there's not really anyway to subsititue anything else for that.

# PLease read the FAQ section where is says "there are no official Steemit rules". 

# Hopefully you can find something else better to do with your time.

# Yes, we have freedom of speech and YOU do not have freedom of taking away award from a member who post. If there are votes on it, you have no right to ruin it and take away their earnings. 

# And @clayop, you flagged me for using the #kr tag when it was a Korean video in Korean from your own country. That was very rude and selfish of you.

Then why should you @clayop have freedom of award? We all have "freedom of award" and  Steemit doesn't need y robocops taking it away from us. You flagged my post for using the #kr tag when it was Korean related. It's a Korean game show from your country so why would you flag that? Are you a hater?

# Hi @clayop, can you explain to everyone why you flag members for using the #kr tag if they are not Korean? My post that you flagged was a Korean video of a Korean game show from your country. There was no reason for you must have flagged it for your own personal reasons when you should just ignore it and move on if it's something that you don't like. I had some upvotes on it so obviously members liked it but now you hid it with your censorship flag.

## Speaking of abuse @clayop, *you* abuse the flag and flag Americans and other westerners for using the #kr tag. Like this post here:

https://steemit.com/education/@randompic/north-korea-stored-1-million-tons-of-petroleum-before-sanctions

## The above post is all about Korea, yet you flagged it. So, *you* are also an abuser.

## While there are no official Steemit rules, as you can see in the FAQ section,  there is an etiquette guide. No one has to follow the etiquette guide and you, @clayop, do not follow it. If you did, you would not flag members for these kind of silly , little reason. 

## So, you do not follow the Steemit Etiquette Guide but you want everyone to follow your made up rules or guides, whatever they are. You are a complete fool. You are becoming one of the big fools of Steemit.