RE: Now why would kafkanarchy do this? by dfree

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· @dfree ·
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>The campaign put out an official press release on steemit pubicly declaring they would not and did not have anything to do with it.

This is an outright lie.  The "statement" says absolutely nothing in regards to the kafka, to ben, or even to doxxing in general. All it does is mention that they believe in the nap and since  both you and Marcus support a post that says and I quote "Doxxing is not a violation of the NAP" and "Hacking is not a violation of the non-aggression principle" that all can be found in the video here.
https://steemit.com/libertarian/@krishool/character-assassination-of-adam-kokesh
Talking about the NAP falls flat doesn't it?

I even commented on the statement asking about what this has to do with Ben and I got down-voted (what you consider to be censorship)  by Marcus .

I don't even like Kafka if I'm being honest ( but I don't want to cause him any harm) and I want to hear the other side, but this is ridiculous.
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@iamthenerd · (edited)
First, I'm not Ben, Marcus, or whomever krishool is.

i am: iamthenerd.

I am a free man just as you are.  I am as responsible for the actions and inactions of Ben or Marcus as you are (not at all).

The official campaign statement clearly indicates that we (the campaign) have nothing to do with any of this.  It's really that simple.  That being a given, how can we speak on the matter without making stuff up or guessing?  All I know is what I've been told which is probably all the same things that you know.

If someone worked where you work now, i wouldn't question you if that person had or hadn't done something.  it would be impossible for you to accurately speak on the subject.
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@dfree ·
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>First, I'm not Ben, Marcus, or whomever krishool is.

Never said you were...

>I am a free man just as you are. I am as responsible for the actions and inactions of Ben or Marcus as you are (not at all).

And as a "free man" you need to take some personal responsibility.  You are choosing to defend Ben, you are choosing to defend the campaign "statement" and you chose to upvote Krishool argument that doxxing and hacking didn't violate the NAP.   Is any of this info incorrect?

>The official campaign statement clearly indicates that we (the campaign) have nothing to do with any of this. It's really that simple.

Where? where in Marcus  statement does it say this? All it says is that you all follow the NAP and that's it. I even asked for clarification and that got down-voted. 
Now tell me what am I suppose to think when I get down-voted by the O.P and I see him upvoting  and wanting to resteem someone's post that gives an argument that doxxing and hacking doesn't violate the NAP. Tell me if it's so simple what should I take away from this?

>how can we speak on the matter without making stuff up or guessing?

Simple. You denounce the behavior. I'll even tell you what words to use  like: "We have heard and seen posts regarding one of our old campaign staffer; Ben Farmer that has allegedly tried to Doxx and cause another steemit user harm. Let me just  be clear and say we do NOT support these actions if they are true. We had no knowledge of Ben contacting any person like this and we denounce anyone attacking any peaceful individual no matter what verbal disagreements we may have had." 
Instead of what you are doing which is; defending the screenshots, supporting posts that defend doxxing and hacking, and making these out of context arguments.

Now I won't lie; how you, Marcus and Adam reacted to this situation has  definitely caused more harm to your campaign that you will likely never be able recover from. The only way now to salvage your campaign is for you and Marcus to apologize for acting unprofessional and then resign (unless if you are currently not working for the campaign). Adam would need give an apology(since he is the boss and it is his responsibility) and explain his side.  I know this is long post but I just wanted to answer your question the best that I could.

>If someone worked where you work now, i wouldn't question you if that person had or hadn't done something.

I wouldn't defend my co worker unless I had clear evidence. What you are doing is giving out of context arguments and speculation passed off as fact, then complaining that you're not Ben when people disprove your argument.

>it would be impossible for you to accurately speak on the subject.

And that's why the most I would do is denounce the alleged behavior and answer questions about the subject with a "I'm sorry but I don't know." I wouldn't be defending the alleged behavior and I wouldn't be making posts about the subject.
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@kafkanarchy84 ·
Thank you.
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@iamthenerd ·
your entire post is a reflection that you need to reread my last post.
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