The China Experiment: "We Don't Like Bitcoin, So We're Building Our Own" by dragosroua

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The China Experiment: "We Don't Like Bitcoin, So We're Building Our Own"
Hints at a state-owned cryptocurrency in China have been surfaced for a while now, even since PBoC made clear that it will stop fiat-to-Bitcoin trading in all its major exchanges (and some of the world largest Bitcoin exchanges are in China). But today we found even more evidence towards that.

In an article presented by [Yicai](http://www.yicai.com/news/5354643.html), one PBoC officials is quoted like this:

> "We hope that the legal digital currency should have a new quality, will go beyond the existing electronic payment tool, whether it is private digital currency or electronic money."

In other words, we're working at it. We're making our own digital, state-owned currency.

Now, for centuries China has been the "manufacturer" of the world. There were times when more Adibas shoes were sold by Chinese than Adidas himself. And all the tiny stuff that makes up our phones and computers is made there. There's no doubt about the fundamental role China plays as a maker in our world.

But "copy-pasting" Bitcoin into a national crypto is something way, way, way more difficult than copy-pasting Adibas, or anything that can be manufactured. 

The fundamental difference lies in governance. Bitcoins, as a currency, is self-regulated and a state-owned cryptocurrency will be, obviously, state-regulated. Ans that's the very moment it ceases to be a decentralized, self-sustained asset. 

In other words, that's where it loses its value.

From my point of view, this crypto-experiment in China has all the signs in place for a big blunder. Which is not something to be happy about, on the contrary. If China fails to put together their currency, and it seems they want to fix-it--with-bitocin (which will fail) then 1 billion people will be very, very confused.

That's not a good juju.
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@jrswab ·
Great write up man, I agree that this is not going to be easy for China to pull off. The whole idea of Bitcoin is that it can't be controlled (easily) by governments and central bankers. Having a "China Coin" seems like a last ditch attempt to keep control over the people of China.

I can see more governments doing this as time goes on but will adoption really happen? If the US did this and made it mandatory to pay taxes with that coin I'd only buy it to pay taxes and any refund would go right back into Bitcoin, Litecoin, or another.

Keep up the good work,
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@dragosroua ·
> but will adoption really happen?

in my humble opinion, not, it won't happen. And because of that it will get tricky really fast.
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@sanjeevm ·
Probably they are betting their manufacturing capability to build their own coin and gamble it in return. Today there would be hardly any place which does not depend on manufactured item from China. The world should reduce dependency from China and then only they will realize.
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@theguruasia ·
@dragosroua,
Personally I don't believe BTC is a decentralized platform! It's control by few big miners and holders at the moment! So, sometimes I might feel China can be succeed as well! Anyway nice article and thanks for sharing friend!

Cheers~
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@clumsysilverdad ·
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I guess it is fairly predictable that China would build its own Cryptocurrency.  They copy and pirate all other technologies.  It seems to me with their resources they could develop a strong alternative fairly quickly, but who knows.
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@mejustandrew ·
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The Chinese state is trying to control the cryptocurrencies owned by their population. You are very right when you say that there will be a "state regulated" currency. But this remembers me of the Ripple, which may be simmilar to what Chinese state is trying to acheive, isn't it?
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@dragosroua ·
I don't think they want to do a swap-like currency, but a "main" one, that will be used all over the country.
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@johano ·
...and than perhaps all other countries on earth will follow suit.
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@gniksivart ·
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Is this a loose loose scenario? 

If this is succesful (which I doubt) will this mean more and more countries will make bitcoin illegal in favor of a national crypto?

If this fails will that be just another excuse for all the doubters out there to be like look, it failed, and here's proof?
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@dragosroua ·
It's a loose, period, scenario. At least in my opinion. If they lose, which will happen, they'll lose and that's the end of it. By that time, the adoption of other crypto will be large enough to dwarf their efforts but the social cost will be significant.
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@gniksivart ·
I agree.
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@fury123 ·
Well if you can't beat them then join them!
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@blazing ·
they want to make everything of their own that's why buy everything thats china bans ;)
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@johano ·
Thanks drago. Please can you a bit elaborate on this: If China fails to put together their currency, and it seems they want to fix-it--with-bitocin (which will fail) then...
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@colivingclub ·
Is it really experiment? China already has its own Facebook - qzone, and its own Google - Baidu. And right now it is not that hard to create your own cryptocurrency, so no surprise that China is on it.
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