⚠️ Rip-Off Alert ⚠️ @jerrybanfield Is At It Again To Rip People Off by drakos

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⚠️ Rip-Off Alert ⚠️ @jerrybanfield Is At It Again To Rip People Off by drakos

witness-category · @drakos · Mar 23 '20 (edited)

$69.55

⚠️ Rip-Off Alert ⚠️ @jerrybanfield Is At It Again To Rip People Off

View this post on Hive: [⚠️ Rip-Off Alert ⚠️ @jerrybanfield Is At It Again To Rip People Off](https://hive.blog/@drakos/rip-off-alert-jerrybanfield-is-at-it-again-to-rip-people-off)

👍 wackou, v4vapid, stellabelle, benjojo, ausbitbank, xeldal, mangos, tarekadam, jacobtothe, arcange, kingscrown, carterx7, kyle.anderson, tremendospercy, gmuxx, roxane, msp-creativebot, drakos, isacoin, scaredycatguide, arthuradamson, saywha, eturnerx, patrice, fortified, deirdyweirdy, anarcho-andrei, bue, discordiant, msp-lovebot, overkillcoin, thoughtchain, uwelang, raphaelle, armandocat, swelker101, intelliguy, tastetwist, authorofthings, dez1337, pawos, harleymechanix, thedamus, goldenarms, paulag, deanlogic, wandrnrose7, blhz, dunsky, melek, hitmeasap, kaykunoichi, ragepeanut, clayboyn, karenmckersie, jasonbu, scooter77, raizel, dksart, chaatah, heroic15397, bennierex, sokoloffa, isaria, and 124 others

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@neoxian · Oct 9 '17

$1.18

http://cliparting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Popcorn-bag-clip-art-clipart.jpeg

👍 furion, v4vapid, eveuncovered, overkillcoin, drakos, healingherb, fivefiveeleven, onetree, eternalsunshine, been, mushfiqsami

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@mushfiqsami · Oct 9 '17 (edited)

Awesome post ...keep it up and win the world👍😊...and @neoxian i follow u so plz follow me...and comment back or rply plzz and vote me 😃

👍 mushfiqsami
👎 isacoin, drakos

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@sircork · Oct 9 '17

$0.17

Pretty much, but also yes, to @drakos as well. *sigh*

👍 isacoin, drakos, neoxian, kylo

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

$0.53

You'll need a few more popcorn buckets for the rest of us.

👍 furion, neoxian

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@fivefiveeleven · Oct 11 '17

You deserve a lot more like Sr haha.

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@blockgators · Oct 16 '17

I just got my popcorn out the microwave. Let's Go!!!

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@daut44 · Oct 9 '17 (edited)

$0.20

Interesting, will save this and wait for Jerry's response. I personally find his posts obnoxious, but voted for him as a witness because he's super active, seems to help people on the site, and advertises more than anyone else I've seen, but I haven't seen all the things you've pointed out. Will wait to see how this plays out before removing witness vote.

👍 lexiconical, healingherb, onetree, kylo

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@fitinfun · Oct 9 '17

$0.16

Me too. I really like jerry and he has helped me personally as well as some good minnow posts I recommended to his upvotable posts. I think he cares about the little guys which is important in this place. But this does not sound good and hopefully he will re-think or explain. 

I set my account here up for free and I am a technical idiot. Then my son set his up for free too. Why are people paying to get accounts here to jerry or anyone? I had no idea this was going on and now this is another barrier to entry. 

I don't know when I will ever start inviting my connections at this rate. It's 4 months now and I still have not started recruiting...

👍 lexiconical

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@the-ego-is-you · Oct 9 '17

$0.08

I think the short answer is that most people here are not good enough marketers of Steem and their products, while Jerry is a marketing pro.

👍 lexiconical, kylo, greatestjourney

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4 replies

@mushfiqsami · Oct 9 '17

Awesome post ...keep it up and win the world👍😊...and i follow u so plz follow me...and comment back or rply plzz and vote me 😃

👍 mushfiqsami
👎 drakos, the-ego-is-you, isacoin, greatestjourney

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@neander-squirrel · Oct 9 '17

$0.23

I'll reply you if you don't mind:
# STOP SPAMMING!
Thanks.

👍 eturnerx, isacoin, mushfiqsami

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@kaykunoichi · Oct 9 '17 (edited)

$0.17

That seems like a lot of money to have an account created. Wouldn't that put people off Steemit? Surprised people would actually pay for that! On the other hand, he does spend a lot of money on Facebook ads promoting Steemit. Maybe he doesn't see what he's doing as a rip off? Who knows, I could swear he's already making a packet though? Hmmm

👍 lexiconical, isacoin

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@drakos · Oct 9 '17

Not many users are aware of the alternatives ways to create accounts, he's capitalizing on that to swindle them.

👍 abh12345

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@the-ego-is-you · Oct 9 '17

$0.16

You could also say he's simply a  better marketer. He's filling market demand, either created by himself or by a network that's doing a lousy job at closing deals.

Sure, 50 bucks is... pricey... But if that means one more satisfied customer, maybe it's not as bad as it could be.

Let's hope Steemit Inc and others here learn the lesson instead so we can get the products to customer better.

👍 lexiconical, eternalsunshine

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21 replies

@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17 (edited)

$0.85

*"he's capitalizing on that to swindle them."*

You are assuming intent. He could've just done something rather ignorant.

Does the prosecution have evidence to offer?

👍 nikez452

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2 replies

@deanlogic · Oct 10 '17

There's a sucker born every minute and Jerry is smiling about it.

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@veejay · Oct 9 '17

Thank you @drakos for being a Steemit PI. @jerrybanfield  must apologize and #paybackthemoney.
<center>https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jQwfCPeQKkmgVy/giphy.gif</center>

👍 onetree, ur-nxt-grlfrnd, greatestjourney

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@drakos · Oct 9 '17

$0.07

We don't want his apologies, we want him out.

👍 lexiconical, abh12345, libert, ur-nxt-grlfrnd

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$1.10

*"we want"*

You being the designated spokesperson for...whom exactly?

👍 nikez452

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1 reply

@kaliju · Oct 9 '17 (edited)

$0.10

@drakos for witness! I'm new here and this definitely helps to know the community better. Cheers man.

👍 isacoin

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@bearbear613 · Oct 9 '17

$0.16

yes I have found him to be very annoying. He definitely uses steem like a business and creates posts that really don’t help me as a minnow. But he is turning more into a whale and zombies just follow.

👍 drakos, isacoin, lexiconical, onetree, kylo

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$3.44

*"uses steem like a business"*

The horror. We should arrest this vile man.

*"creates posts that really don’t help me as a minnow."*

If only he realized his mandate was specifically to assist bearbear613, perhaps we could have averted this disaster!

👍 nikez452

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@nikez452 · Oct 15 '17

$0.11

lol smartass

👍 lexiconical

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@swelker101 · Oct 9 '17

$0.21

I too removed my vote. This is BS.

👍 isacoin, drakos, jasonbu, em3, kylo

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@stellabelle · Oct 10 '17

$0.06

I never voted for him, and now, I really understand why I hesitated. This last stint is seriously over the top. Not voting for his Witness.

👍 jasonbu, libert, rip-youtube, boontjie, pulpworx

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@greatestjourney · Oct 10 '17

Oh so this is why he made the "Sorry Post".

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@jasonbu · Oct 10 '17

Yes, I was hesitant too.  Just little things here and there niggled at me.  Modern day snake-oil salesman. Be wary.

👍 reinhard-schmid

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@rip-youtube · Oct 12 '17

@stellabelle  I'm new here, I had given him my Witness Proxy. That ended real quickly.

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@n-ur · Oct 10 '17

me too

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@deirdyweirdy · Oct 9 '17

I was a bit taken aback too when I saw Jerry's post. Certainly not in the Steemit spirit. It's not as if it's difficult to get help here. Most are very generous with their time and assistance, free, gratis and for nothing.

👍 onetree

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@isacoin · Oct 9 '17

$0.04

good looking out @drakos :)

he has since edited the post ending with :

>Thank you for reading this post and I hope it was helpful! I was going to offer my own service but with now being aware of these existing services, I think you will find them much better than what I can do for you!

Trying to abstain from responsibility when caught out by posting he hadn't been aware of the popular alternative account creation methods.

what a guy.

👍 lexiconical

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@drakos · Oct 9 '17

$0.10

Ignorance is no excuse. It's his job to know these things, if he's a serious witness. Obviously he's too busy trying to figure ways to make more money.

👍 isacoin, lexiconical

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$6.87

*" if he's a serious witness."*

Does Steem not have room for different types of witnesses, even reformed alcoholic ones with a clear strength in marketing and a clear weakness in tech?

Do you understand the concept of genetic diversity? Apply that concept to Jerry and think about witness diversity.

Is giving him a chance to blow all his block rewards on marketing such a bad thing? (Does witness voting have a cooldown?)

These questions are mostly rhetorical.

👍 nikez452

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$1.45

Hypothetically assuming for the moment that Jerry's story is true, he made a dumb mistake, was ignorant of some of the cheaper account options, then offered a dumb, over-priced product...

Was there a possible retraction that would have satisfied you? How would it have read if so?

👍 nikez452

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@isacoin · Oct 11 '17

$0.26

How could someone make a honest mistake like this especially a witness who is supposed to be an example to other users on how to act on site be be and knowledgeable in how the site functions?

Jerry is a user long enough and is a witness long enough maybe an honest apology and not trying to weasel out of what he said instead of an flat-out lie.

When you knowingly  offer a disingenuous service or product this is the definition of a scam and i think they're are plenty enough already on steemit we dont need witnesses leading more.

👍 isacoin, lexiconical

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@nikez452 · Oct 15 '17

$0.11

this seems reasonable

👍 lexiconical

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@onetree · Oct 9 '17

Mmmm....seems the post has been edited.

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@drakos · Oct 9 '17

Of course he edited it to save his face, he took a beating in the witness chat channel.

👍 onetree

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@eternalsunshine · Oct 9 '17

Wow didn't know all this. But.. What if, just what if it attracts people who really don't care about $50 ? I think thats his strategy. It could attract people who live in a different planet than you and me if you know what I mean. People that don't want to handle details of account creation themselves. To be really fair though, he *should* mention that there are other cheaper alternatives so that the user get a real choice.

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@neander-squirrel · Oct 9 '17 (edited)

$0.12

#### Hi @drakos,
I am not a fan of Jerry but I feel I must just say for objectivity purposes that when I checked out his original post on [phist.steemdata.com](https://phist.steemdata.com/history?identifier=steemit.com/steemit/@jerrybanfield/my-steem-account-creation-service-alternative-to-steemitcom-signup), I've noticed that he clearly stated many times, that he does not recommend using his services only as a last resort, when someone doesn't seem to be able to register any other way. He also said that the registration procedure costs him $36 for each user.

I don't necessarily agree with rounding 36 to $50 but I've seen worst rip offs in my life (apple?)! At least he is saying that it doesn't really worth it.

I don't know about his other actions you have stated above, therefore I will not argue those.

However, Steem is the most open platform I've ever seen. I really hope it's going to stay open and free for everyone!

👍 lexiconical

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@drakos · Oct 9 '17 (edited)

$0.33

He should learn how the account creation process works, before embarking on a crusade to recruit people by feeding them false information. Everything he said was totally wrong. If he's really sincere about discouraging people from using HIS service, why the hell even post about it?

👍 arthuradamson, lexiconical, neander-squirrel

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$1.42

Why don't we encourage him to focus on what he knows then, marketing to new users? Could the community even help provide better documentation to that end?

If Jerry has value as a witness, that is what it will be in - sign-ups.

👍 nikez452

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@deanlogic · Oct 10 '17

$0.12

> He also said that the registration procedure costs him $36 for each user.

Can he explain why it costs him $36, when other witnesses will do it at cost for $6 STEEM?

👍 lexiconical, stimialiti

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

He can't explain anything because he doesn't know what he's doing.

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$0.28

He was doing it via Vessel out of (presumably) ignorance. That costs 30 (Steem?) per account created.

So, potentially not malicious but overpriced.

👍 nikez452

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@fukako · Oct 9 '17

he is really creepy...

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@screenname · Oct 10 '17

Re: ⚠️ Rip-Off Alert ⚠️ @jerrybanfield Is At It Again To Rip People Off

<p>This post has been ranked within the top 50 most undervalued posts in the second half of Oct 09. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $17.80 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.</p> 
<p>See the full rankings and details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-oct-09---part-ii">The Daily Tribune: Oct 09 - Part II</a>. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/introducing-the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-nov-04---part-i">our initial post</a>.</p>
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@fabiyamada · Oct 10 '17

$0.04

I don't understand, why is there people who would pay?

👍 lexiconical

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

$0.04

Because they aren't aware of the alternatives.

👍 lexiconical

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@fabiyamada · Oct 10 '17

You mean they don't know they can't do it for free? Or this isn't free anymore?

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$1.35

If you want your argument to be stronger you should list all alternatives:

1. They are unaware.
2. Steemit signups are backlogged again, they have $0 crypto and are willing to pay a premium to get in now. See: premiums on LocalBitCoins.

👍 nikez452

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$0.99

1. They are unaware of the alternatives.
2. Steemit signups are backlogged again, they have $0 crypto and are willing to pay a premium to get in now. See: premiums on LocalBitcoins.

👍 nikez452

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@fabiyamada · Oct 12 '17

$0.08

Oh! I hope everything goes back to normal soon. Voting for witnesses would help?

👍 lexiconical

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@jasonshick · Oct 10 '17

A pathetic use of power by Banfield. More people need to find out about his greed and self-interest. Definitely remove vote as a witness. Gonna resteem this post. Good on you for calling him out. What surprises me a bit is seeing the upvotes still on his original post. @sweetsssj and a few others, thats also a big concern

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

$0.04

Those are auto-upvoters, they hardly read any posts.

👍 lexiconical

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@n-ur · Oct 10 '17

new here so you are saying the always trending china girl is using some kind dirty trick?

👍 jasonshick

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@jasonshick · Oct 11 '17

There are auto voters out there that you can set up so you don't have to manually do it and you can get a higher share of curation rewards. One of the popular ones is steem voter

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$0.51

*"What surprises me a bit is seeing the upvotes still on his original post. @sweetsssj and a few others, thats also a big concern"*

They're probably just AFK/not reading? They are all on auto-vote.

👍 nikez452, jasonshick

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@jasonshick · Oct 11 '17

$0.04

gotcha

👍 lexiconical

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@stellabelle · Oct 10 '17

$0.59

I had no idea he was selling Witness information for $180. That really makes my stomach turn, as _no one_ has ever done that or even thought to profit from the information. Wow, this was really shocking. Thanks for writing about this.

👍 v4vapid, lyndsaybowes, ryn, joanstewart, kylo, greatestjourney

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@fractalfreedom · Oct 10 '17

Guess you never heard of the bestselling book series "_______ for dummies"

👍 fractalfreedom

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@lucylin · Oct 10 '17

Well spotted, a great post. ( I  go off my gut instinct, and thought he looked dodgy, from when I first joined).
Good to see ethics being the primary concern here, and not money.

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@paulag · Oct 10 '17

$0.05

You have my 100% support in exposing Jerry as a scam.  he is well know for it on every platform he touches.

👍 lexiconical, abh12345

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@abh12345 · Oct 10 '17

bisteemit brought me here! :D

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@paulag · Oct 10 '17

:-)

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17 (edited)

$2.16

*"scam"*

This is not a scam.

Charging a price higher than you like is not a scam.

It pains me to say it but...even Genesis Mining is not a scam.

Now I feel a bit gross...going to go take a shower, excuse me, madame.

👍 nikez452

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@nikez452 · Oct 15 '17

$0.07

ur excused

👍 lexiconical

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@ryn · Oct 10 '17

I gave you a witness vote

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

Thank you :)

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@mitchhunter · Oct 10 '17

Wow. That is very greedy. I found this steemit because of this guy while i was searching about crypto. I was greatful for that so voted on him but now when i know more about this platform, i find some of his advices wrong. This is the last straw. Removing my vote for him. Thanks for letting us know

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@arthuradamson · Oct 10 '17 (edited)

$0.71

"Money does not change people, it reveals them" Henry Ford.

I live my life by this code because you can very easily see who is genuine and who is not.
One thing I look for is the "replies" or "no replies" to comments given or NOT given by those who have a big following or are whales.

Often you can see that, if a so called "important" steemian makes a comment on their post , then a reply is given back. But when a newbie or a minnow makes a comment, then no reply is given back.
For me this is revealing for it says; "I only give attention to those whom I see as "important"."
And what exactly is "important". Well either you have a lot of money/steem power, or you have a big following. In other words the message is; "If you are small you dont exist in my eyes so contact me again when you are big".
This is a form of elitism and is actually a psychopathic trait. The idea that some are deservedly more important than another just because of wealth.

Our actions and non actions reveal our intentions.

I am not making any judgements about Mr Banfield and will keep my opinon to myself. I merely tell this so that people can quickly discover for themselves if Mr Banfield is or is not genuine by looking at his replies or non replies. To whom does he reply to and whom does he not. Does he reply to only "important" steemians or does he also reply to non-important steemians... and how often.

I will give an opinion on this post however. I think it was a very brave action to bring to light something you feel was immoral or dishonest and for this you must be congratulated.
It is such things that are in the spirit of fairness in which is steemit was built for. At least that is my belief, and why I joined steemit in the first place. We either want steemit to have a reputation for making money in an honesty way or a reputation for making money for the sake of making money at all cost. The latter is the way the world is already. I thought we were all here to try to make a better world in our small way.
Either way, history shows that greed always kills the golden goose.

I guess Steemit is still in beta and we are all part of a great social experiment to see how a society would or could function if the economy were based on the blockchain.

👍 v4vapid, thoughtchain, tastetwist, drakos, happyme, weetreebonsai, reinhard-schmid, cikxaijen, amvanaken, solodadlikeaboss, kylo, swaminemo, clicketyclick, gyro, vimukthi

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

$0.44

*"Money does not change people, it reveals them" - Henry Ford.* I'll have to remember that quote.

All the points you make are valid. Nevertheless, when someone like jerry has 15k followers on Steemit, it's not that easy to answer everyone's comment. You can see by the amount of comments he gets on his posts. I'm not trying to defend him here, this is a general result of being popular. If we look at celebrities for example, the same applies; a rising star has the time to read and reply to the little fan mail they get, but once they reach a higher level of celebrity, there's no more time to read the exponentially growing fan mail.

👍 v4vapid, abh12345, amvanaken, solodadlikeaboss, kylo

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@arthuradamson · Oct 10 '17 (edited)

$0.78

I agree and I did think of that.
Of course you can not always reply to everyones post when you become popular or "famous". It is just not practical nor physically possible.
I completely accept that.
However, you can see if there is a general pattern of behaviour quite quickly.
Does a person generally reply to "important" people more than "non-important" people? Is there a good balance there?

I have not checked Mr Banfield´s posts myself so I can not give an opinion on that. I do not wish too either.

My intention is to merely suggest a method of determining if someone is genuine or not. Especially in this new environment of Steemit that we are all part of and wish to succeed. As money comes so to do scammers.
We all know this.
You would be surprised how easy it is to see if there is a pattern to someones behaviour. Police detectives and FBI use this method all the time.

There is also the factor of how someone reacts when they are being accused of something.
Have you heard the phase from Shakespeare; "Thou dost protest too much"

This means that if someone is actually "guilty" and have been "found out", so to speak, ..they will give a long apology. They will react and try to wash their "act" away using much information and long explanations. -
In short, they defend themselves too much. This is what Shakespeare meant .

Liars always feel they have to justify themselves, honest people don not.

We all know this its just that we forget. The reason why is because we actually want to forgive people of their immoral behaviour. Most people are essentially "good" and as such "we" have an inherent need to believe others are good and that they will do the right thing. Im afraid psychopathic personalities take advantage of this "good nature" in "ordinary people.
They know that they will be "forgiven" if they can convince you they are really really sorry. Why do you think abused women of narcissistic men keep going back to them? They "need" to forgive them and to believe their abuses will become honest people. But it is not only women who are victims of the fake apologies of the narcissistic personality. Sadly it is impossible for such people will change. Period.

An honest reaction to making an honest mistake is always short.
For example; "Oh shit, I never meant it like that. Im so Sorry". Simple as that.
Detectives know this also.
The truth is always answered simply because we merely react to what is already in our brains.
Lies are clever, lies are "created" and therefore the brain needs more time and energy to "create" them. This is why a lie answer is always longer than a truthful answer. I hope that makes sense?

Normal people make mistakes.
What defines us from people those whom have a psychopathic/narcissistic personality is the response to those "mistakes". Or to be more precise, the response to being accused of making a mistake or a crime.

Just some thoughts for you to consider if in the future you fined yourself having to decided on someone´s integrity. But perhaps you know all this already?

From your reaction to the whole sordid matter it tells me that you yourself have an inbuilt moral code that people should "do the right thing".
When someone appears to "cross the line" (in your book) then you simply must react because you feel "outraged" that someone can "get away" with doing such a thing.
This need for "justice" is actually built into all human-beings and is called the "conscience" of course. Or at least, part of the conscience condition.

However, you may be surprised to hear that the majority people would prefer to stay silent and "not get involved". This does not make them bad people, merely that they are victims of peer pressure. The fear of doing the wrong thing.
I would not be surprised that, when you were in school or college, that you often defended others who were bullied. If I am right then I can tell you why you did this. The answer is simple. It is written in your DNA. It is called "Survival DNA." Perhaps it is a family trait that you defend those who are "weaker". I merely speculate.
No psychopath or sociopath would react in the way that you did. So at least I know you are a normal person lol :)

In the end all we can do is decide for ourselves and live with the consequences of our choices.
I suppose people will make their own minds about Mr Banfield and I surely everyone deserves a second chance.

Needless to say I am glad to know there is someone like yourself here on the Steemit platform and I will continue to "follow" you as I have for some time now.

To finish. A little true story for you.
In 1998 a famous comedian in the UK was given a big award. It was the equivalent to the Ocars but in the Uk.
in his speech he said. "I have been in show business for 40 years and I have learned one thing. One important thing that I believe is what makes someone successful in this business. An that is integrity. If you can fake that then you have cracked it" :)

👍 arthuradamson, drakos, vimukthi

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@fractalfreedom · Oct 10 '17

Ahh that's it. You put Jerry on YOUR pedestal, but then Jerry didn't live up to your expectations.
Could you be a sour fanboy? Jerry is not a celebrity.

👍 fractalfreedom

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@abh12345 · Oct 10 '17

Perhaps the person he has hired to write his posts can answer the comments too?

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@thoughtchain · Oct 10 '17

$0.14

Well said!

👍 arthuradamson, been, kylo

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@clicketyclick · Nov 16 '17

$0.20

Well said @arthuradamson!

👍 arthuradamson

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@spottyfox · Oct 10 '17

This is absolutely ridiculous. Resteeming.

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@gniksivart · Oct 10 '17

I was going to write this as well, but glad someone did it more eloquently than I could. I pretty much feel the same way. I kept trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but can't get past the feeling of him being like a used car salesman.

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@goldenarms · Oct 10 '17

$0.15

He always came off as greasy to me. I don't follow him nor would I vote for him as witness, I always wondered why so many do? I cringe when I see resteems in my feed of him with that stupid graduation cap. Slimey smile, slimey actions..this isn't the type of individual that should be tasked with looking after this site, he's only here to make a profit and clearly will stoop pretty low to make a few bucks. Kinda gross, thx for having the jam to call him out. Resteemed this puppy to spread the word

👍 lexiconical, drakos, rip-youtube

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@fractalfreedom · Oct 10 '17

Hey GA, I agree with you on the greasy, dumb grin cap wearing cringing feel. And maybe the fact that he is a witness makes it worse then I understand, but isn't everyone being a bit harsh and ganging up on a guy that really just was offering a service for a price? He was honest in pitching his service. Told you not to try it first.
Is steemit not a site where people are here BECAUSE they can make money? Isn't this a tad hypocritical? 
The only reason I followed him was because he was posting on how hard it is to get signed up. I was having friends waiting weeks to get approved. I think a nerd is getting picked on for no reason here, and someone has to defend this guy. I respect your view so I hope you reply. I could be totally wrong here but lets not get a man killed for making a buck.

👍 fractalfreedom

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@goldenarms · Oct 10 '17

I respect your opinion, I was just sharing mine. I opened a second account a month ago for free. I feel he uses his stature just to prey on ppl and he got caught so you're seeing him trying to act apologetic. Imagine the feeling a new user would have getting ripped and paying for a service that's free or at the most $6? Pretending to help the site is a guise to pocket more money for JB. Being a witness to many is a privalege but imo it's just a way to rake in more for this guy. He won't get my vote ever, I save them for ppl I feel deserve it. A few people rightfully called him out and saved newer users from getting preyed on, if not he'd still be offering an overpaid service and damaging Steemit's reputation..he's a big face here and should respect the position he has. I don't feel bad for him but I would feel bad if he were able to take advantage of others.. like he tried to. He said he was sorry, I have to take that at face value but I still won't be following him because I wasn't before. There's so many others that deserve those votes, I personally seen huge accounts actually helping others and not just pretending to to make more $. Those are the people I want to associate with but to each their own.

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

I like the cut of your jib.

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@thoughtchain · Oct 10 '17

$0.06

Thanks @drakos for posting about this. I really appreciate the spirit of what you're doing to help people new to this and call out scammers.  I'm relatively new to this and also have a friend who wanted to create a new account using an outside service and he would have likely ended up on Jerry's service and been at an extra $44 for nothing. Your information will be very valuable to him and others. I'm now following you and resteemed and upvoted. Hope you will follow me for original content and news about Blockchain, Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency and ICOs. Cheers!  @thoughtchain

👍 lexiconical, drakos

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$0.21

*"scammers"*

This wasn't a scam, it was just dumb.

👍 nikez452

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@sixersfeds · Oct 10 '17

$0.02

The more I see of Jerry and the more things pointed out that happened before I got here, the more I dislike the tactics and the less respect I have for him in general. Thank you for pointing this out, I actually hadn't seen it. I still follow him, just to see what's up as I think these are the type of people we will have to deal with more and more as the platform grows. All we can do is make his tactics known, offer alternatives to his scams and hopefully continue the community aspects of Steemit, while keeping a eye out for those only concerned with the platform due to its potential monetary benefits. Keeping going full Steem ahead, my friends!

👍 drakos

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@thekitchenfairy · Oct 10 '17

Say whaaa...??!! And I've been giving tutorials to my friends and family for free??? God dammitt!! 😂😂😂😂😂

Thanks for this post @drakos, I have 4 family members voted for him, I believe. Will pass this post to them.

👍 abh12345

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@abh12345 · Oct 10 '17

LOL!

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@hitmeasap · Oct 10 '17

$0.20

He's been here since May 2017. He's has more than 15,500 followers and he publish an average of 3-4 articles per 24 hour. 7 days per week. - He's also a witness and he has great support which is why he reach anything between $80 and $200+ on his posts.

Even though I personally don't like established Steemians like him creating 4+ posts per day, as they already earn **tons** of money compared to **most** Steemians, I guess it's what **most** Steemians want. Otherwise they wouldn't upvote everything he does. That being said, it seems like Jerry has reduced the amount of articles a little bit, as he was creating 4+ on a daily basis previously. - So that's good I guess.

However, to do something like this. To sell witness information and to offer accounts for $50.. - That's just shady. And greedy.

I still like to read some of his posts, as I believe he brings value... But this was too much. - Thanks for the heads up. I've pressed that "follow" button and I hope I'll see great things from you in the future.

👍 lexiconical, kylo

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$1.42

I agree with the thrust of your points, however:

*"Otherwise they wouldn't upvote everything he does."*

I think this is basically because of the (bad) way curation rewards work and the autovoting situation.

👍 nikez452

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@jamesbrown · Oct 11 '17

$0.04

Yeep.

👍 lexiconical

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@nikez452 · Oct 15 '17

$0.15

curation needs fixing

👍 lexiconical, slowgrow

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@theleapingkoala · Oct 20 '17

$0.20

I add to that the automatic voting is another reason they will keep voting his posts even if he does 10+ per day.
Which of course is caused by the curation rewards.

Human greed is the root of all evil indeed!

👍 lexiconical, coachme, theleapingkoala

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@fivefiveeleven · Oct 11 '17

$0.04

He post 4 times per day 7 days a week because he is in a closed circle of votes, all the big guys are voting so he knows no matter the fuck he writes is gonna make $100 $150 each post. He even upvote himself all his posts, he is selling a guide to be a witness, and now almost selling accounts. So if you think about this, he is doing a lot of shit in here agains the community. "Do as I say not as I do"

👍 lexiconical

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@lexiconical · Oct 13 '17

$0.28

*" He even upvote himself all his posts"*

Nothing wrong with that.

👍 tarquinmaine, fivefiveeleven

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@fractalfreedom · Oct 10 '17

$0.28

I think your overreacting to a guy who is working. He spent the first half of his post telling you other ways to get signed up. He spent the time and is providing a service. Bringing up the other $180 service he tried is a moot point.
I don't really like him, but I don't hate him for trying. And he isn't trying to hurt anyone is he? Was he deceptive? No quite up front about it.
I have followed him because he was talking about signups taking long times for friends and family getting onboarded to steemit.
I think there are 100 other topics worth discussion. Maybe your post says more about you then Jerry. Someone I never thought I would be defending.

👍 lexiconical, fractalfreedom, kylo, tarquinmaine

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

$0.06

Did you read the other people's comments on this post and Jerry's two recent posts? Are they over-reacting too?

I deal with stuck accounts on a daily basis, go to the #help channel on steemit.chat and see what goes on there, how many frustrated users show up daily and how we deal with them by giving them the best **affordable** advice we can, in public and in private messages. Ask any of them, how has @drakos or @timcliff helped you recently.

So when I saw that $50 flashing in my face, I had to react accordingly, because it's an insult to my and other helping volunteers efforts, and it's an insult to the community.

👍 lexiconical, em3

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@themarkymark · Oct 10 '17

$0.04

$50, more like $85 + $13-25 tip he begged for at the end of the "checkout process".

👍 lexiconical

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17 (edited)

$7.09

*"Did you read the other people's comments on this post and Jerry's two recent posts? Are they over-reacting too?"*

Yeah, kinda. Nobody is giving the stupidity explanation due consideration.

Frankly, the fact that I had to go on MSP Waves to get people to realize that I write all the witness posts and I don't think Jerry even reads them (because I also proof-read them) was just __staggering__.

Nobody around here is developing an informed, dispassionate opinion based on the facts...except, like, me (harhar). 

But again, I apparently am the only person who read the posts where it states over and over again  the posts are my words.

*"So when I saw that $50 flashing in my face, I had to react accordingly, because it's an insult to my and other helping volunteers efforts, and it's an insult to the community."*

Are Rolex's watches an insult to Timex's watches?

If you prefer something more comparable...

Is Whole Foods' milk an insult to Wal-Mart's milk?

If I negotiate a contract for pay twice that of a similar coworker, is my job an insult to theirs?

Why are you guys so pissed off at a self-admitted reformed alcoholic who keeps going to AA not knowing some shit about the Steemit platform? Of course a guy like that is going to make some dumb mistakes, especially given we ALL do.

Is it not obvious what Jerry's value here would be (sign-ups?)

👍 nikez452

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@lexiconical · Oct 11 '17

$1.00

*"Someone I never thought I would be defending."*

It gets tough being drafted (pressed) into a regular devil's advocate, doesn't it?

👍 nikez452, spiritualmatters, fractalfreedom

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@spiritualmatters · Oct 13 '17 (edited)

$0.19

*(pressed)?*

I realize he loves your work; and, can understand why you're taking the high-road on the matter; but when playing the devil's advocate; be careful to not get burned.

He's got an innocent presence that could sell manure as ice cream. 

Everybody can't be wrong. In a court of law only 12 people would decide guilt or innocence. By the looks of this comment section, in this case he'd fare on the side of the former.

Peace.

👍 lexiconical

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@fractalfreedom · Oct 10 '17

From my view point this is a hit piece on Jerry. Your jealous! The way you went about this is wrong! If you provided criticism that would be fine. But you attacked him! 
I think this witness thing is out of hand and it makes certain folks nuts.
Your just as much in this for money as Jerry is! As we all are on steemit for $$$
Your a hypocrite! And a dangerous one at that stirring up the community for your ego/witness mentality. Tell me where he violated a law? Maybe one day someone as brilliant as yourself will start a campaign against you out of pure jealousy. Think before you act. Your acting like a bully and picking on a harmless awkward guy that is doing no wrong.

👍 fractalfreedom

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17 (edited)

So, overcharging $50 for a FREE account is ok with you? A guy who does that is not harmless, quite the opposite.

For your information, I have supported and voted for jerry since he started witnessing. I even looked away when he made his first blunders. Please don't judge if you don't know the full story.

https://image.ibb.co/bYZKkF/facepalm.gif

👍 abh12345

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@fractalfreedom · Oct 10 '17

I read and still don't understand the reasoning for the hit piece. He broke no laws, was offering a service for a price. You can disagree on the price but its no reason to form a posse and try to hang a man.
When you offer your opinion that is fair. When you actively set out to ruin a guy because you feel he charges to much, you have gone too far.
You only address the $50 overcharging, your blinded by $$$. And it doesn't matter what you think about it. It's not harmful.
Your actions are far more harmful.
Don't talk about judging seems you do alot for everyone else.

👍 fractalfreedom

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@boontjie · Oct 10 '17

This is a bit ridiculous and very poor behaviour.  Who is this dude?

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@abh12345 · Oct 10 '17

$0.04

You now have my vote for witness, sir @drakos

I don't follow Jerry, and haven't for a while.  I made fun of him a few months back, calling out his 300 ways to make money online, in which only 1 method works, which is selling the 299 methods that don't:

https://steemit.com/dontflagmejerry/@abh12345/90-ways-to-make-a-some-a-little-or-no-money-on-the-internet-and-1-way-to-make-two-million-dollars

When i heard he put himeself up for witness - head in hands
When i checked his wallet and saw these 'bribes' - head in hands
When i heard he was coming to steemfest - no comment as i'll likely saying hello.....

This is no surprise really, but I'm glad it's being said.

Well done, some good support here.

👍 drakos

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@ocrdu · Oct 10 '17

+1 witness vote for you.

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@drakos · Oct 10 '17

Thanks 🙂

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@fractalfreedom · Oct 10 '17

Join the posse, hang em high!

👍 fractalfreedom

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@ocrdu · Oct 11 '17

I just mute them; less mess to clean up.

👍 fractalfreedom

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@ana-maria · Oct 11 '17 (edited)

$0.06

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The article will be Resteemed by @dropahead Curator - Witness account of the [dropAhead curation team](https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@dropahead/introduceyourself-xxvotesplus-dropahead-curation-trail-and-my-path-to-witness)! 
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👍 dropahead, jesta, bitcoinbutter, yukimaru, develcuy, manosteel211, joyita, marilia, indiantraveller, proba1, marcusxman

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@isacoin · Oct 11 '17

thanks for giving me the special treatment and mentioning my @bitcoinbutter account if @dropahead wasnt as strict might have got a shoutout for @isacoin also :P

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@twotripleow · Oct 11 '17

Thanks for the info sir.

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@sokoloffa · Oct 11 '17

Hello! Many thanks for the warning. Unfortunately, such situations happen. In Ukraine, people say: "Do good - you will get evil."

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@zen-analyst · Oct 11 '17

I do believe  @jerrybanfield has gone a bit far with some of his attempts but I do believe he has reached out to quite a lot people to notice and join steemit. I'm one of them. 

Yes people get greedy and no one is happy when they lose more than expected. I even loled at what he last wrote. 

But he's done a good job contributing for steemit and he's getting hammered enough from his "decisions" so let's just give him a chance.

Zen

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@ghulammujtaba · Oct 11 '17 (edited)

This man doesn't have any interest in the growth of this community, he invested round about $30,000 here and became a whale on the day one. He doesn't have to do any hard work as people are blindly following him and want to say some more but can't, I'm not a whale and don't want to be flagged either. He's just an investor and thinks like a businessman, not like a normal human being!

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@dunsky · Oct 11 '17

$0.25

Thanks a lot for your warning! Removing my vote.
![Whale Upvote from @dunsky](https://images.golos.io/DQmU5AdeUkFsaVYntGrgF7B9tHJjZQxAZmyPCY5qnR3oaeq/Dunsky_Upvote1.jpg)

👍 good-karma, bitcoiner, feruz, meysam, demo

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@theleapingkoala · Oct 20 '17

I love your killer whale image. Cute killer whale LOL

👍 coachme, theleapingkoala

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@dunsky · Oct 20 '17

Thank you so much :) I have more in my blog. I am drawing them by myself.
![Follow from @dunsky](https://images.golos.io/DQmV7DufqwFNqNfoqyKjzF5E1LPEREE2GW6hqXupaHEP1rY/Dunsky_Upvote4.jpg)

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@joanstewart · Oct 11 '17

Long and the short of it all, no shortcuts!

Sign up as a witness to reap rewards  however small, just do it honestly. Don't gain knowledge and then charge for something freely available online.

Some do battle to get signed up find the help that you need without charging I support your post @drakos and taken heed.

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@hafiz34 · Oct 11 '17

I am new to steemit but in last 2 days, it seems that it is a battle field. Fighting is going on between members, between whale account and community account  :O

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@fivefiveeleven · Oct 11 '17

$0.05

I never voted for him as a witness, I used to follow him and watched his videos. I started to hate him when hi started his youtube campaign just to bring his followers up here. He was encouraging his own people to came up here, register an account so they can upvote him, and now this? what a greedy asshole

👍 drakos

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@fivefiveeleven · Oct 11 '17

$0.05

What bothers me more is that he is still posting a making over $150 on each post, even after all this thing, and that's because the selfish upvote rings, if you check who are the people upvoting you will see the same people always, and a lot of big users, not to mention he always selfvote. So he is not only making money for his posts, no matter the fuck he writes he knows he will have all the big guys votes, no matter how shitty the post is, he is gonna make those $100 $150 anyway, and now trying to sell the creation of accounts to newbies, thats a total scam.

👍 drakos

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@bitcoinflood · Oct 11 '17

$0.12

*sigh* that is seriously disappointing, some people get a little to money hungry and lose focus.

👍 bitcoinflood

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@thedamus · Oct 11 '17

Tell it like it is drakos!

Thanks for good information and philanthropic contributions of your time and expertise.

Cheers! from @thedamus
✨⚡️✨🤘😎✨⚡️✨

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@scaredycatguide · Oct 12 '17

That is quite the interesting price point.   Money just amplifies who someone already is.

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@offgridlife · Oct 12 '17 (edited)

Yuck. I will never upvote one of his spammy posts again. He repeats himself over and over and over again in his posts - either an attempt at SEO or very poor editing skills or something far worse.

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@drakos · Oct 12 '17

Tell me about it.

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@offgridlife · Oct 12 '17

A few times I thought i was going crazy reading his posts seeing the same sentence repeated 4 and 5 times  - I truly believe that he has outsourced his Blog posts to some Robotic System that does not have any brains.

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@rip-youtube · Oct 12 '17

$0.05

I just found a reference to this post @Drakos, and have upvoted, followed, and given you a Witness vote. I'm new on Steemit (1 month), and I believed, obviously falsely, that Jerry was a great guy. So much so, that I had given him my Witness Proxy. I thought it was rather strange that in Banfield's 'apology video,' he was laughing about all of the websites and programs that he'd been banned from. I wouldn't think that most people would find that funny. The other post that got me here said it had now been edited, however. Maybe he thought better of that segment and removed it? I haven't checked.

Wow, he could have had it all here on Steemit. He obviously started with what a lot of us could only dream of. His greed is exactly one of the things that I've always despised about this world. 

Thanks for your post.

👍 drakos

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@harleymechanix · Oct 12 '17

$0.05

I wanna be crypto famous!  lol.  Great post.  Interesting read.  I don't know much about Jerry but will dig into this further.  

I do know @drakos was the only one who helped me get an account set up for my wife.  He did it for free and didn't have to waste his time.  But I appreciate it and that is the type of people we need as witness and to grow steemit.  

You will always have my vote homie.  

![phil1.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZvgMFnf36mZFjxbZbE3Ga1tc1Ekcdk1JhAvtR2SE8rbG/phil1.jpg)

👍 drakos

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@meanmommy33 · Oct 14 '17

omfg .................................. [now I get it....]

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@atopy · Oct 14 '17

...as stated before...never rly dug the guy. Can't blame him for trying but also can't say im shocked or surprised. :3

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@tarquinmaine · Oct 19 '17

Think Jerry has done a huge amount for this platform  in the small  amount of time he's been on it. If he offers a service it's up to the person who decides to use it or not. Can't see the harm. Yes he's testing the boundaries but he's doing it very publicly so what's the harm? Like it, hate it or leave it - but surely ok need to start Witch hunts?

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@jerrybanfield · Oct 22 '17

$1.27

Thank you for writing an entire post about me!  What a compliment!

👍 jerrybanfield
👎 veryscamfield

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@drakos · Oct 22 '17 (edited)

Did you just find this post from 2 weeks ago? I suggest you also read the comments.

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@jerrybanfield · Oct 22 '17

Yes! While I was reading @timcliff's most recent witness report just a few minutes ago to find new witnesses to vote for, I noticed right below my update was your post about me.

Your https://steemian.info/witnesses is very helpful to see a complete witness list below 100 rank especially!

👎 veryscamfield

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