RE: Taxation is Theft; Citizenship is Slavery by edicted

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· @edicted ·
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Eh, in 10 years when I renounce my social security number, citizenship, and perhaps even my own name and I pay for everything with an anonymous wallet unattached to any identity because I have no identity... maybe then we can continue this conversation.

The idea with these crypto cities is that no one will be in charge.  America spends more on "defense" than all other countries combined, yet little countries like Venezuela still remain somewhat difficult to control.  If Maduro had actually created a decentralized cryptocurrency to fight against the oppression of his people we'd be having another conversation entirely.
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@practicalthought ·
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Good luck with that. I can't see them allowing one to escape their (mark of the beast), but this is one of the few times I hope I am wrong. :)

We use their tech, their machines, their space/land, their food chains, their just about everything. While the matrix was an extreme with the Mr. Smith agents hijacking bodies, between all the cameras everywhere and other means they are implementing to watch every move to the citizens who will gladly sell their neighbors out for shits and giggles or because they might become criminals for not outing others, I see no escape. 

But then, my instincts tell me they want us on blockchain, want us only transacting from wallets that record every single move. There will be no handing paper to another that they have no way of knowing happened if they get their wish. They only pretend to be against this so people looking for an escape will demand more chains.
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@daznez ·
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perfectly said. many can see the  copse, but not the forest.

only a fully private and untraceable coin would do it but then the authorities just ban exchanges from allowing it so what are you going to spend it on? 'outlawcoin.'

they don't even need blockchain tbh - just continue making cash more cumbersome and more expensive to use while cards and phones become easier and quicker and 'the market' will take care of their ultimate aim.

'city states' is probably how they will govern their one world order, but money is how they will force everyone to obey or live as an outlaw.
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@markkujantunen · (edited)
Zero knowledge proofs are an interesting concept. It is completely possible to use stealth addresses and have the sender and the recipient obfuscated as well as the sum sent but still have the ledger mathematically verifiably correct. That's how Monero and Zerocoin work. I guess you could have secret smart contracts as well. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof
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@edicted ·
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If they wanted us using blockchain it would be mainstream already.  
They aren't subtle.  
They don't need to be.  
Most people are followers,
and they will believe anything that is spoon-fed to them.

Instead what we are actually seeing is huge resistance to change and disruption of established power.  

You give the established powers way too much credit.  They aren't some sleek and efficient shadow organization.  The world economy is an inefficient  meat grinder.  

Public opinion matters quite a bit, which is why a massive amount of resources are expended every year with the intention of manipulating it.  Under the power you give them, they could control every detail of every person's life on Earth.  

This would mean that all the inefficiency we see in the system was simply put there to trick us into thinking they have less power.  At that point you might as well claim everyone is being mind controlled by a nano robot virus and go full nihilist.
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@practicalthought ·
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> If they wanted us using blockchain it would be mainstream already.
They aren't subtle.

The puppets of those who rule are not subtle. Those who hand them their scripts are. Their plans span generations which is beyond the scope of most to see and understand. They ingeniously encourage immediate gratification to exacerbate the absence of critical thinking in regards to the longer ramifications. 

A true tactician will ensure those being moved as pawns are not cognizant of who is moving them, shifting the appearance onto others who can take the fall. The right/left illusion is but a small example of creating the perceived problems and then offering the limited options to potentially solve them. They do not rule because they are bumbling idiots, they rule because they understand much and have the patience to fully exercise their blueprints.
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