SmartSteem Curation Manipulation Test (Part 2) by edicted

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· @edicted ·
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SmartSteem Curation Manipulation Test (Part 2)
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I've learned a good chunk of information from this test but there is still a lot more to know.  

https://steemit.com/smartsteem/@edicted/smartsteem-curation-manipulation-test-part-1
I gave 10 SBD to @smartmarket to pump up this post.  I was given about +$3.00 before the pump from various followers:

user | curation
-----|-----
@taskmaster4450  |0.397
@hr1  | 0.09
@steveconnor| 0.124
@edicted | 0.029 (Yes, I made curation off my own post.)
@stayoutoftherz|0.014
@unfixable|0.004
@solarwarrior|0.021

Total curation was $8.23 while total post payout was $34.  I believe SP was pegged to $4 at the time.

@solarwarrior did me a solid and noted the reward right away:
>I received 0.021 SP for my vote...
at the time of voting I believe my voting power was around 1.5 cents..
so my return at that times price would be 0.021*3.00 steem price = 6.3 cents..
so its a factor 4 return.. that s the highest I have seen on steemit so far!
I believe promising fixed upvotes after 24 h later or so could be a major motivation for people to more actively vote on your posts!

So yes!  Success!  It is very easy to use a voting service to manipulate curation rewards, artificially so. 

Here are two people that I paid to vote for me:

user | curation
-----|-----
@bhuz | 0.351
@mctiller|0.037

It's important to note here that @bhuz gave me a way higher upvote than @taskmaster4450 but taskmaster received higher curation.  Similarly, @mctiller gave a higher upvote than @hr1 but @hr1 received more of the curation reward.  

This is a system we should be exploiting, yet I read nothing about such a strategy.  By leeching curation rewards away from people who sell their vote we can punish vote sellers while at the same time reward our organic followers.  Given enough pressure, the system will change. 

![stocks-going-up.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmPuh3FEWiNHgbWWLaHseEtFtQgyohMFKbRVo5orBSA5hN/stocks-going-up.jpg)

Another test I ran was on:
https://steemit.com/politics/@edicted/beware-the-police-state

This time I pumped the post IMMEDIATELY for 9 SBD for $17 in upvotes right from the beginning.  This was an attempt to eliminate curation and give myself all the rewards.  It worked.  The post paid out $23.22 to me with only $0.56 curation.

It's important to note that the value of Steem went up a lot in the last week.  This made my purchased votes worth more money by the end of the week.  Conversely, if Steem lost money the bought votes lose value.  It's best to buy votes during a bull market and sell them during a bearish one.  The price feed of Steem is averaged over time (3.5 days) so if it spikes up or down over a short period of time you may be able to fairly easily predict if the value of payouts will go up or down over the next 7 days.  Act accordingly.  

If there's one thing I've learned from all this it's that I need more information.  I'm seriously considering creating a simple bot that will track all these stats.  Doing it by hand is simply not viable. I need to track the order of votes and the ratio of money given to me vs money received from curation.  Then I need to identify every vote I paid for and estimate my net gain or loss from participating in this service.  

![SBD.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRKobK6Gi5rRDyEQ3E6xdahMBseKyuSKFxbcer7HAh1bM/SBD.png)

Smartmarket guarantees 180% upvotes so if you do the math:

>1.8 / 2 = 0.9

Therefore if you upvote early and no curation is taken you're always going to make money unless SBD value is $9 or higher.

>1-0.9 = 0.1 SBD lost... but the other half of the reward is $0.90 in the form of SP.

I'm predicting all crypto will be in a bull market for the next 2 or 3 months.  Until then, I'll simply be recycling my SBD payouts back into my posts.  I'll let the snowball roll until the market turns bearish.  Honestly this is looking a lot more profitable than I originally thought.  I'll get that bot up and running and continue experimenting.  Steem on Steemians.

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@unfixable ·
Nice post and interesting info! I didn't try to buy votes on smartsteem yet but once I decide to do this is valuable information :D
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@edicted · (edited)
Here's an example backfire.  I tried to upvote this post right away but there was a delay from @smartsteem for like 20 minutes.  Now vote sellers will receive the curation from this post.  BOO!  Clearly, it's a much safer play to not be greedy and simply support your followers instead of yourself.  Obviously if you are constantly pumping up your organic votes with artificial curation they'll appreciate that and have more incentive to upvote you. 

Upvoted for 7 SBD.  Received 7.928... wow so I think I got screwed over twice.  Hm... never mind SmartSteem is just bugged.  I'm 90% sure I paid for @alexis555's vote but it's not appearing...
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@therealwolf · (edited)
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1.) The more curation the vote-seller gets, the higher the vote you'll receive.
2.) You paid 3.5 SBD since you got refunded 3.5 SBD.
3.) alexis555 is not a vote-seller
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@edicted ·
Oh crap I did get refunded.... I looked for that like 3 times.  Either it was bugging out or I'm blind.  Thanks for the catch, man.
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@edicted · (edited)
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However, you are wrong about 1)

The entire point of this experiment is to leech curation away from the vote sellers to my organic followers... and it totally works.

I'm sure you just meant I'll get less if I try to upvote right away and take the curation for myself.  Just making sure though.
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@theinspiredlife ·
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Try to follow this but donΒ΄t get it. Could you explain it for beginners?
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@edicted · (edited)
Ok so basically Steem gives incentive to upvote other people by giving out curation rewards.  If I upvote you for $40 I'm going to receive $10 of that reward (25%) as a curation bonus.  When you receive a curation reward Steem is basically telling you, "Thank you for bringing this valuable content to light."

Now, lets say I upvote you for that $40 and then, because I did that, multiple other whales upvoted you for a total of $400 more.  Now there is $100 more in the curation pool, but how does that money get distributed?  The accounts that upvoted first get more of the curation pool.  Theoretically, I might take half of that curation for a total of $60 curation.  This is even more money than my original $40 vote.  

Curation tempts whales into engaging in a lottery of sorts.  Whales who would otherwise be exploiting the system and only voting for themselves are now incentivized to vote on quality content that hasn't been voted on yet, in an attempt to make even more money. 

If you buy votes, you are artificially manipulating the curation pool.  You can buy votes early and give curation to yourself, or you can buy votes late and give it to the people that have already upvoted you.  I've concluded that if you buy votes late and support your supporters, they have even more reason to support you because you're giving them extra curation money.  This could lead to a snowball effect because you'll get more organic votes and the artificial votes will push your posts into the trending tab giving you even more visibility. 

I hope this helps.  Feel free to ask more questions.
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@theinspiredlife ·
ThatΒ΄s clear, thanks for your long and detailed explanation :)
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@khaliloff ·
thanks for nice post
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@dreemsteem ·
I'll be sharing this in @buddyup

@calumam.... look at this
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