Careful How You Upvote Comments! by erikah

blockchain · @erikah · Aug 27 '19

$1.65

Careful How You Upvote Comments!

What I'm going to write about today is known to senior Steemians but may be totally new to new users. If you are new here or think you have a lot to learn, please take a minute to read this post. 

Today I'd like to point out a well known user behavior and it's consequences. It is about upvoting comments. 

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Steem blockchain is an amazing place and apart from the blogging part, it has a financial part as well, which is very important, not at all negligible if you want to grow your account. 

I'm seeing new users upvoting comments as a token of appreciation. This is a very nice gesture but unfortunately it's not working as you think. You may give a like on other social media platforms and watch your post getting likes but here any upvote has consequences. 

When it comes to payouts, there's a limit under which the upvote value is not payed out but  burned because it is considered **dust**. That limit is $0.03. 

Some of us are using a service that is upvoting dust value posts and comments. (This is not an advertising post for those services!) One of them is @ dustsweeper, which you can send some STEEM or SBD and saves your dust. It's been working well so far but after HF21 is implemented, which is in a few hours, its existence becomes uncertain according to their last [post](https://steemit.com/community/@dustsweeper/ann-introducing-dustsweeper-a-new-service-to-turn-dust-into-profit).

Giving $0.03 upvotes on comments is pretty difficult, I know. I'm a very little fish here, with my 5300SP that I'm holding at the moment, that would mean 50% upvote, which I can't afford. I'd rather upvote posts instead. A smaller upvote than 50% on comments would mean a waste of resources as you never know if the user is using any dusting service. Newer users with less SP most likely don't. 

This is not an advice, it's my opinion. You can still choose to do whatever you think it's best. 

![steemit-border](https://img.esteem.ws/av4tt0mlsg.png)

I'm curious to see what's going to happen to @dustsweeper after HF21 goes live. I've been expecting an update from them as everyone is posting updates about their new plans but I saw nothing so far. 

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

Thank you

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@pixresteemer · Aug 27 '19

$0.03

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

Many thanks

👍 pokerbjj

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@rikaz87 · Aug 27 '19

this article is great for reminding. Thanks

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@erikah · Aug 27 '19

You're welcome.

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@raymondspeaks · Aug 27 '19

I actually didn't know this. Thanks for telling me. I should know this! lol. I'm rep 68

👍 pokerbjj

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@erikah · Aug 27 '19

Now you know. Rep is not really relevant here, sorry to disappoint you :)

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@raymondspeaks · Aug 28 '19

Yes, but what I was trying to say was that I've been here since July 2016! :)

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1 reply

@gingbabida · Aug 27 '19

Thanks for this insight, @erikah. I've heard dust and all that, but I really can't understand it much. You explained it in layman's term that I understood it so clearly. Thank you so much my dear. 😊

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@erikah · Aug 27 '19

I'm glad I could help and you're welcome 😊 If you need help, you know where to find me. One year means a lot, I know and things around here are always changing 😉

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@gingbabida · Aug 27 '19

Thanks a lot dear. I'll sure would ask if I have some difficulties. 😊

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@steemflow · Aug 27 '19

A valid point...making use for post sound much better than using them on comments....

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@erikah · Aug 27 '19

True but many users have no idea.

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@steemflow · Aug 27 '19

Hope to see them updated with the new begining

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@ahmadmanga · Aug 27 '19

Didn't know this... I was wondering why some of my comments don't seem to earn rewards, so that's why...

Is the $0.03 limit is calculated by set USD amount or is it the current price of the equivalent STEEM? (I mean, if STEEM price went up twice as much, would the limit become $0.06?)

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@erikah · Aug 27 '19

Yes, that's why you didn't get any rewards (most likely). Unfortunately I can't answer your question, as far as I can remember, the limit has always been $0.03, but I might be wrong. Either way, careful with upvoting comments, especially if dust services are going to stop.

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@ahmadmanga · Aug 27 '19

I figured.

> Unfortunately I can't answer your question, as far as I can remember, the limit has always been $0.03...

Thanks for the reminder, I'll be sure to check out what to vote from now on.

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@darrenfj · Aug 27 '19

Although upvoting a comment does seem to help it rise to the top.

Thanks for the info on dustsweeper. It's been a godsend to a little plankter like me. Hate to see it go, tbh.

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👍 qwerrie

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@qwerrie · Aug 27 '19

> upvoting a comment does seem to help it rise to the top.

this.

and, upvoting it at 1-4% doesnt take a lot of recources from you. I often do that as a sign op appreciation (not giving / leading to any money payout, tho). @darrenfj

👍 darrenfj

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@weedcash.rewards · Aug 27 '19

Good information.  I had to learn this.

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

I'm glad it helps.

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@putu300 · Aug 28 '19

Well, I am a very very tiny malnutritioned little fish, and I have been using a lot of @dustweeper excellent service. ☺️.  I hope they service is available still after hf21.

👍 pokerbjj

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

I hope so too as it's the only option to save dust.

👍 pokerbjj

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@xplosive · Aug 31 '19

Luckily/fortunately that is not the only option to save dust.
@dustbunny is also fluffing up dust. And their dust fluffing service is free.

👍 smartvote

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@xplosive · Aug 31 '19 (edited)

I am currently also a little fish - minnow with currently (2019.08.31, 13:11 CEST) 581.397 Steem Power -, and I am using @dustbunny.
They are doing their dust fluffing services for free.
You do not have to pay Steem nor Steem Dollars (SBD) to them.

👍 smartvote

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@putu300 · Aug 31 '19

Oh, wow. Thanks so much for letting me know. I'll check it out right away.

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@gbenga · Aug 28 '19

Truly upvotes mean a lot. A lot of users enjoy voting posts while a few others vote comments so as to encourage the users to interact with the community. Voting unreasonably might not be cool I must confess

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@ash · Aug 28 '19

$0.05

Oh, I didn't even know there was a dust limit...

👍 aboutcoolscience, papabab, ginabot, cryptomancer

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

Unfortunately there's one.

👍 pokerbjj

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@manishmike10 · Aug 28 '19

That was much needed explanation to the new comers...

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

That's why I wrote the post.

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@movingman · Aug 28 '19

Thanks for sharing! Check this out @asheelts 😃

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@asheelts · Aug 28 '19

Thanks! Good to know.

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@alokkumar121 · Aug 28 '19 (edited)

Voting post than comment is good idea. I have been using dustsweeper since  few months and its nice but not sure how this will work now after HF21.

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

I hope they are going to come up with something, or others.

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@cyberblock · Aug 28 '19

Thanks for the info bud :)

👍 dirtbag

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

You're welcome.

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@sathyasankar · Aug 29 '19

Thanks for the info. It seems like only people having over 500k sp can upvote on comments, effortlessly!

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@erikah · Aug 29 '19

We have to grow a lot to be able to afford to vote 50% on comments.

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@steelbeam · Aug 29 '19

Thanks a lot for this. As a complete newbie to all of this, this info is great to know.

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@erikah · Aug 30 '19

You're welcome.

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@oluwatobiloba · Aug 30 '19

Thanks for letting us know.

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@erikah · Aug 30 '19

My pleasure

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@xplosive · Aug 31 '19

***"That limit is $0.03."***
I thought that the payout threshold is $0.02. Or is this also changed by the HardFork 21 (HF21)?

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@erikah · Aug 31 '19

HF21 nor HF22 has changed the threshold as far as I know.

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@xplosive · Aug 31 '19 (edited)

Even Steemit writes that the payout threshold is $0.02.
![vsbur61jwq.png](https://img.esteem.ws/vsbur61jwq.png)
Image source: Screenshot ([This blog post](https://steemit.com/dpoll/@xplosive/have-you-changed-your-consumer-habits-due-to-the-privacy-scandals-in-the-previous-years) on Steemit).
Screenshot was taken on 2019.08.31, 17:26 CEST.

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@steem-ua · Sep 1 '19

$0.03

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