Leasing on Steem is the future. by exyle

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· @exyle · (edited)
$18.62
Leasing on Steem is the future.
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STEEM is still affordable today.

I personally don't think this will last forever.

I picked up some more this morning and quietly, yet consistently, grow my SP in the background.

When the price reverses STEEM will be too expensive to buy for most individuals and startups is my simple reasoning *(It will be for me)*.

And maybe that's already the case, I don't know for sure.

When STEEM becomes too expensive, leasing STEEM will become the norm. It's inevitable when Steem succeeds.

Why?

When I look at the total supply of STEEM and compare it to my own account I know there is only enough STEEM to form 1521 @exyle accounts. 

We already have 50k active accounts today. And I expect this number to grow substantially in the years to come. Especially now that we have successful apps and communities with revenue models forming on Steem.

What I do know is that all Steem accounts today and future accounts need a little bit of STEEM to operate on the blockchain. 

Staked STEEM (steempower) provides the Resource Credits an account needs to make transactions on Steem.

If I want Steem to grow I (and many other Steemians) will be forced to lease our STEEM, otherwise not enough people can join the blockchain.

(*side note: you never thought you would become an investor? Sorry to bring it to you, you will become one because you blogged about your cat for the last 3 years earning STEEM, if you never sold that STEEM of course*).

Leasing STEEM is already happening today. 

There is a nice service build by @buildteam for exactly that purpose. It's called Dlease.io.

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I tried the service out by leasing 1000SP to a Steemian and it works great.

Every day I get a payout for the lease and by the end of the lease, I will get my Steempower back or I can renew the lease. 

By leasing my STEEM to a Steemian, that person now gets access to RC's to operate for free on the Steem Blockchain.

How much RC's an account need depends on what type of account we dealing with.

I can imagine that a business account that wants to fill a (future) RC pool will want to lease more STEEM than an individual.

But RC's they will all need none the less.

What also makes a huge difference is the price of STEEM.

I expect the amount of RC's for actions on the blockchain to come down when the price of STEEM goes up.

That means a Steemian will need to stake less STEEM to transact on the blockchain but price-wise it will cost the same.

When this happens I will be able to increase the number of leases.

I think that's pretty cool.

Now, do remember this is all future talk. *(But my STEEM investment doesn't live in the now)*.

I'm fully aware that a person leasing STEEM today might use it to maximize ROI and upvote themselves 10 times a day.

It's not about that.

It's about the fact that the infrastructure for my future vision is being built today.

Not by me, not by Steemit Inc. but by another third party that sees it too.

And don't think this leasing vision is too far fetched.

When I look at the card game Splinterlands I already see users that figured out really fast that leasing cards to play the game is way cheaper than actually buying the cards.

It also carries less risk.

Users are using these cards to compete in tournaments and earning DEC tokens. Earning more than the costs of the lease of the cards.

It's win-win.

The same will happen to Steem in the vision I have. 

When leasing STEEM to operate on the Steem blockchain allows businesses/people to earn more on the blockchain doing X than the lease costs they will lease it.

It just makes sense to me.


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@michealb · (edited)
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When  50/50 comes in, wonder how profitable it will be to lease at 20% and manual curate.

could have a dramatic affect on the lease market?
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@exyle ·
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Good point! Didn't think about that. I was purely focusing on RC's. Going to stew on your comment in the gym.
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@cardboard ·
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Well, there are already users / bots that get the same ROI from just curation as delegations to top voting bots (around 18%). It's worth to say though that it's mainly thanks to upvoting posts before bid bots.

With 50/50 this sweet 20% ROI should be easier :)
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@abh12345 ·
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Without some adjustments to the vote, the vote buyer is going to lose out the most?  

So this could mean less bids in general, or the vote being shared between fewer posts making it tougher to earn curation on front running as less bids=more competitive in the ideal vote timing?
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@michealb · (edited)
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{With 50/50 this sweet 20% ROI should be easier :)}  - yes,  but do you think you could you pay the 20% and expect say 25 to 30% for curating? therefore making 10% on borrowed steem etc
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@partiko ·
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@healthandfitness ·
Thank you for posting this! I only stared to use steemit properly few months ago and trying to learn as much as I can every day๐Ÿ˜‰
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@bluengel ·
Yup ! :) Agreed !
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@skytrex ·
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If new users are forced to lease or buy Steem, why should they participate at all on this blockchain?

Also, isn't RC based on the accounts actual owned holdings of SP instead of owned + leased?
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@tarazkp ·
RCs go to whoever has active use of the SP. A delegation of Steem creates RCs for the one it gets delegated to and removes RCs for the delegator.
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@exyle ·
When I delegated/lease SP to a user this user gets access to RC's. (I recently delegated a Splinterlands player 50SP so he could continue playing, he ran out of RC's).
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@dtrade · (edited)
DApp itself can provide SP delegation (i.e. RC) and free Steem account to their users. [DApp will have their own incentive](https://steemit.com/steemleo/@dtrade/a-stinc-alternative-in-steem-blockchain-to-decentralize-the-power-and-improve-the-image-of-steem) to buy/hold millions of SP to support millions of their users. [The only missing thing is the killer idea for such DApp.](https://steemit.com/steemleo/@dtrade/when-dapps-can-onboard-millions-of-new-users-en-messe-steem-will-achieve-billion-dollar-marketcap-even-without-speculation)
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@onealfa.leo ·
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I have seen dlease.io, but it did not hooked me up. I can name a number of more profitable places for my excess SP
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@exyle ·
I got a 20% ROI for my lease, I thought that was pretty decent.

Place share better ROI places. I am sure people will find it useful.
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@onealfa ·
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yes 20% is good indeed. I was checking that some time ago, and I've not seen much above 15%
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@dtrade · (edited)
@steemhunt returns 20% ROI in terms of Steem, SBD and mostly HUNT token. There are other DApps that shares TOKENs, but not sure about their ROI (e.g. @minnowsupport, @leovoter, @dlike etc.)
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@warsishah ·
Very good explanation, hope you will appreciate my work as well

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@blazing ·
Great future ahead of steem this is the time to keep investing for better results in future
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@joythewanderer ·
$0.03
Interesting thoughts, although Iโ€™m still worrying about the 1+ million steem generated due to the inflation, how can it hold the value in this way?

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@exyle · (edited)
$0.02
STEEM inflation is reduced every year by 0,5%. I think it's around ~8,5% today.

I know we have some extra inflation atm because of the recent insane price swings and an excess of SBD that can now be converted to STEEM but that will stop very soon.

From now on it should take at least +10 years or more to double the total supply of STEEM.

I'm sure we can double the total value of our blockchain in the next 10 years with ease to offset this.

There is no worry long-term. I personally add all that inflation talk to the FUD pile.
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@theguruasia ·
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@exyle,
Minnowsbooster are having the same type of features isn't it?

Cheers~
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@exyle ·
Dlease.io is the old minnowbooster. It just looks 10 times more professional.
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@amahovac93 ·
Your very smart for powering up!

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@bozz ·
I have done some leasing of my EOS in the past.  It is a really simple and easy process.  I have never leased out a delegation though.  My stake is just too small for me to make it lucrative.  Maybe one day I will be able to.
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@preparedwombat ·
The dlease.io model where you lease SP to a specific individual for a specific length of time might be just a stopgap. Maybe in the future youโ€™ll be able to delegate SP to X on an open-ended basis and it would provide Resource Credits dynamically to businesses as needed.
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@shanghaipreneur ·
I am more interested in the ability to lease out my RC without affecting my VP. Isn't that something that we can envision doing in the future?
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@diogosantos ·
We had a similar project founded by @buildawhale (If Iยดm not mistaken). And I used it more than once, but then for some reason, I just got away from it and Dlease is just so clean and easy to use.... I love it!

Let it be the future!!
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@hotsauceislethal ·
What we really need is a STEEM casino where people can gamble with their STEEM.

Also some sort of investment site for STEEM where you can buy real assets or something like e-commerce... that would be cool.

Blogging is great and all but it really is not a great use case for STEEM tokens, albeit the first. STEEM needs to have other utility otherwise this website becomes a literal circlejerk.
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@yogajill ·
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Time will tell! In the meantime, stack and do what you can to earn! There are just so many ways to be active on the blockchain! It would be great to become a dolphin! Nevermind an @exyle sized account!! Keep growing!! Have a fantastic day. ๐Ÿถ
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@chireerocks ·
@exyle, That's true and when **Steem** will rise then in my opinion truly many will look for the **Steem** and may be at that point it will become like **Precious Gem**.

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@themonetaryfew ·
Leasing, or what I prefer to call delegating, in my opinion is certainly an integral part of a DPOS type of blockchain.

I have shared this video in of the comments before, but I would recommend watching it again, certainly if you have not seen it before.

The proposal behind a DPOS type of blockchain is very different from most of the other blockchains out there. 

With for example BTC or ETH, you don't have any rights accompanying the ownership of the coin or token. With STEEM or EOS, this is very different. Your ownership of the coin or token gives you access to the resources hosted on the blockchain.

Watch this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji9APYbyFR8&t=1s), I'm sure it will give you some new insights for STEEM too.
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@dtrade · (edited)
It will take some trials and errors from newer DApps on Tribes or SMT. Due to sheer number of attempts, one or few DApps can be a big hit that will bring millions of users who will require SP/RC to operate. 

[Users of that DApps might not be aware of the underlying Steem blockchain.](https://steemleo.com/steemleo/@dtrade/when-dapps-can-onboard-millions-of-new-users-en-messe-steem-will-achieve-billion-dollar-marketcap-even-without-speculation) **DApp can provide necessary SP (e.g. 20 SP delegation) to new users to function in their DApps. In that case, that successful DApps will require millions of SP.** The killer idea for that DApp is still to be seen: right now, @actifit, @steemhunt, @sprinterlands, @palnet, @steemleo, @dlike, @threespeak have good possibility.
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@hgn66 ·
You just got to the point... Eventually helping others to grow, will lead to a more powerful community, which will help others grow too. There will be lots of situations for this option, like so many other things, there will be spam,abuse and ... . But if we become afraid of that abuse, we'll be stuck in where we are... Like a snail on razor blade!
And it's a safe investment!
Thanks for introducing this service!
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