I think you meant "bid bots" not "bit bots".

Thank you so much for participating the Partiko Delegation Plan Round 1! We really appreciate your support! As part of the delegation benefits, we just gave you a 3.00% upvote! Together, let’s change the world!

i have never understood the hatred towards bid bots. 

they exist because of a need. and i look at them as a promotional tool. sure it can be abused. but so much can be. 

you are bang on man. once people don’t have a ‘need’ for something it would be replaced. 

bid bot owners will have to adapt and create more value for their investments too. 

which is great. entrepreneurship is an awesome thing lol

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today the banks gives you 1% per year, tomorrow We have to give them 2% per year to take care of our money (witch they don't ).   Show that finger to the banks and buy crypto!

I've been saying for a while to people around me:

Web 2.0: invitation
Web 3.0: delegation

SteemHunt is the best example of this on the STEEM blockchain. Only SMTs missing...

*sigh*

One day!

Grat! I follow you!
If you like traveling around the word and art you can follow me ;)

There is huge opportunity for dapps! If one steps up with a great one, they probably can get a over a million delegation 😎

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Man you have a lot of words to share. 
When they are genuine they flow down stream easily. 
Keep on postin 

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hi, 

As I think of bid bots is like paying youtube to display your video's before or during other video's. It's like ok I want more to be seen I wil take a bidbot and pay some, with also return of investment. hmm butif you say ok (I said it last week or so) You will delegate or take a subscribtion to pay for the app yeah.. and there is already a bitbot taking weekly subscribtions. I dont know how they do it but they do it. Maybe I should try it out some time to see how it works. I'm playing another game also now they come almost daily with updates it's a strategic game and you want to buy stuff really haha to get further in the game. yeah I fell for it.. I know many apps are serious apps. But as of I know there is already a steem subscribtion possible. steemmonsters has also a way to get fiat and i know a lot of apps on my phone has a little free version and subscribtion based version with ideal paypal creditcard etc. Think O you want the free version? I must eat too so here are some adds. you want the adds gone? Ok pay for no adds.

I'm still up I should be in bed but the server calls me again. Tomorrow or the day after I get the free server upgrade to like 60gb also I get a new server so everything will be moved to something faster then the 10 cores I already have, what isn't needed anymore I think because it will be like 5 gb well who knows. nightynight

I'm not sure I follow; do you mean they can get investors to buy into Steem with other crypto just for investing (delegating) to their dapp because of the returns?

i'd like to progressively delegate up to 90% of my steem to great apps, less fussing with biddys the better as i see it

peace out !

I agree and wish for the right model to come out and move the masses to show the true potential of this blockchain.  It is out there and over time  it can be done!  We also need investors so bid bots have room in the ecosystem; it is those that abuse them that should be adequately educated on the harm done to the community.

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Just need to create a few more dapps like SteemMonsters. This time make a dapp that targets the masses and relies on other forms of payment rather than reward pool as you said. I'm not technical, but can an App evolve into a Dapp? Just thinking of how influencing current popular apps out there to accept crypto. Yet with such volatility they might be worried of substantial losses. Thinking all the time about the next killer dapp! 

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>He's looking at 1% return on his STEEM per month in STEEM

If that’s his minimum goal, he must be happy. There are a lot of ways to make *at least* that much via delegation.

it will be actually great for the long term for the platform as well

>Any app that tries to combat a bid bot when it comes to ROI from the reward pool will lose.

@steemflagrewards provides decent ROI on comments explaining why users flagged abusive content which enriches the platform which, unfortunately, abounds with abuse. 

I checked on of the votes one and it was 30% positive rshares. It used to be more but we turned down our ROI to increase the volume of flags against abuse. That and we have a paltry 13k SP to address the wife spectrum of abuse. Too many bots have no blacklist. No reporting mechanism and, furthermore, they will often not unvote blatant low quality user contributions. 
The most prevalent by far is bid bot abuse and think they are far more detrimental to the platform but it's a minority view. Doesn't necessarily make it wrong, though.

Sure, suppose it is a decent way to get crabs in the bucket to promise passive gains without any work but that doesn't seem like a sustainable model for the long term.

We'll see...

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Glad you had a great night.  Do you see any apps out there now that are close to doing this sort of thing or are all of them pretty far away from it for now.  Even though Steem Monsters has multiple revenue streams, I don't feel like it gives back to you in this way besides the ability to sell your cards.