Acused of spam by steemit cleaners by fishyculture

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· @fishyculture · (edited)
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Acused of spam by steemit cleaners
This hermit is DONE. Pke me with a fucking fork.
I will hang in for papa-peppers contest, but I will not be posting anything else. 
Spam. Fuck that. 'Trying to help newbies. 'Spam. Fuck that.

OK. I am a little calmed down, I am going to explain the best I can. 

I got my first "real world" friend to join yesterday. I used the "introduceyourself" tag on my "Fish Net Stalking" award to her. It is the ONLY time I used that tag, because  it was a REAL friend. Stemmitcleaners said I was abusing the tag. 

I also decided to stop the "Fish Net Stalking" award. I started it to try to help nebies, it was not really helping them and it was becoming a sad thing for me to do... pick someone and "highlight" them so they would get nothing much for the effort. I used the EXACT same tags to announce the end of the award that I used to give the award all this time. Stemmitcleaners acused me of spam again.

I feel like steemitcleaners zeroed in om me and decided to wreck my reputation for doing nothing more than trying to help new people on steemit. 

Powering down now. 

Bye.
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@indianquestion ·
Hello,I'm a new be, please explain.
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@fishyculture ·
See update.
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@indianquestion ·
Thanks. The only part I really understand is "Fuck that". Been pissed off many times.lol
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@steemitgraven29 · (edited)
This is terrible news, and an example of a system not working. I am sorry this happened to you - your award was the first thing that happened to me here and really got me excited about the platform. I looked forward to checking out your choice every day. I just didn't have the juice behind my upvotes. You were doing curating on your own which must have been tough. You should have been applauded for that, but instead got flagged :( Booooo on the system that flags you.
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@fishyculture ·
Thank you. That comment means the world to me.
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@creationofcare ·
I will really miss you here, you were a super fun poster in my feed and turned me on to a number of newbies.  Ya know you can always come back. Much love
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@fishyculture ·
Thank you. I have 13 weeks before I get my earnings out of here, I will try to converse with the friends I have made at least but no more original content for the bots to trash. I am human, I have feelings and I have "issues." I had a full blown anxiety attack over that bullshit that kept me up half crying all night. I do NOT need that kind of bullshit in my life, and I will NOT tolerate having BOTS ruin my day. Or night. Ned and Dan and the whales can fix this bullshit but they choose to ignore it. They use bots to upvote each other and create bots to downvote the peons. I am hoping to see some sort of change before I am fully powered down but have NO expectation of it. Everyone making money loves things JUST the way they are... 
But thank you for your kind words, it means a LOT more to me than bots who trash me.
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@libertyteeth ·
I am so sorry to hear.  You are very much correct.  I had a few run-ins with @cheetah before I fully understood it.  And IIRC I got some flack for using the #steem tag -- and I was talking about the currency!

Please reconsider.  I will miss you a great deal.  Or, musically:

https://youtu.be/xi5BKTLU2bQ

Looks like both steemit.com and steemitstage.com are broken today; I'm typing this comment on busy.org.  Really sucks for my investment, although I'm surprised that STEEM is staying over a dollar -- it had fallen prior to the bad software update and initiation of the DDoS attack.  Both of which happened at "the same time" so I'm wondering if there really is a DDoS attack at all, or if it's just a cover for bad practices...
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@prowebwriter ·
I'd love to see @sherlockholmes do an investigation on @steemcleaners. 

When Steemit's SELF-APPOINTED spam police become spam/abuse themselves, then who is to be accountable for that?

Unfortunately not them because they've managed to out-power most of the users they are calling out. Like do they call out anyone they can't overpower? 

@steemcleaners is like a cop on a power trip. 

Who is/are it/they?

Here's their introductory post - https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@steemcleaners/announcing-steemcleaners-the-steemit-abuse-fighting-team

Apparently, they are us? Whatever the case...some of their actions are questionable. 

Tags are here for us to use on our posts. Which tags are trending is irrelevant. We are limited to 5 tags to prevent us from spamming tags. Who is @steemcleaners to decide whether our use of a certain tag is relevant or not? In my humble opinion, the Steemit tag is always relevant. 

The fact that the @adm account ALWAYS upvotes the @steemcleaners comments is shady at the very least. 

There are a lot of  posts regarding this: 
* https://steemit.com/steemit/@pandorasbox/steemcleaners-abuse-or-malfunction-honest-people-are-getting-flagged-unfairly-censorship-under-the-guise-of-anti-spam-are-you
* https://steemit.com/steemit/@dineroconopcion/who-is-adm-why-is-this-account-abusing-it-s-steem-power-freely-part-2

This is one of the broken parts of Steemit. I'd like to encourage you to stay and help fix it.
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@fishyculture ·
Thank you. I thought adm was actually the administrators of the site, leading me to see no way to fix it if this is how the admins WANT it. Even if that is just a bot, the actual admins have never bothered to tell them to stop with their spam... so... I am pulling my earnings out. I am not posting any more content, why risk having a whalebot undo all I work for? I will stick around long enough to finish powering down, and comment here and there. If there is some EFFORT toward fixing this before I am powered down, I may hang around. What I see is a LONG track record of these bots trashing the actual ORIGINAL CONTENT of ACTUAL HUMANS and Ned and Dan off on another money making scheme, can't be bothered to fix this one. They got their fortune out of this platform and moved on... left it to be run by bots. They whales do not curate, they use bots to upvote their buddies without ever reading the content. Then they set up "whales" that ARE bots to go downvote the posts of real people. Unless and until the WHALES decide this is a problem there will be no changes... and the whales are making bank. The bot was in a twist over posts that made TEN CENTS. Yep, that is me just raping the rewards pool... Meanwhile, they go vote each other's hate speech up, making more for their bot-driven circle jerk posts than I have ever made for a fully original post.
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@prowebwriter ·
What can I say? You have many, many valid points. 

Did they actually downvote any of your posts though? I can't find any.
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@deirdyweirdy ·
About three months back someone of high reputation replied to my comment with the words '*Haha! Brilliant. You have a great name! UPvoted and followed! =)*' and then downvoted me, by mistake I'm hoping, tumbling my rep several points. 
 I was furious for hours until I realised it didn't matter at all in the scheme of things and I was enjoying myself too much on Steemit to give up.

I love your blog, always something different. Please reconsider.
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@fishyculture ·
Thanks for the kind words. The whales using bots to upvote each other without reading content and then making bots to downvote original content that no human ever looked at to see if it really deserved to be called "spam" is not something I care to participate in. This is not a new problem. no one ever tries to fix it. This will soon be a site where bots go and make whales richer and new people get trashed by the bots the whales made to prevent newbies from ever becoming whales. This site will die of whale ego - bot supported circle jerking. I am a "canary in the coal mine" sort of person. If this site is to become something that average HUMANS want to support, the bots have to go. At LEAST have downvotes reviewed by an actual human before they go shit on people. Yes, I am WAY too sensitive, but I REFUSE to become cold and heartless so I can tolerate shit from bots that no human should tolerate.
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@deirdyweirdy ·
I hope having your issue reviewed by an actual human makes you feel a little better. Patrice seems to be a good skin who does a lot of sterling work for the platform. I do hope to see you back, but all the best anyway.
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@jkiw ·
Totally understand what you went through last night and still going through... and very glad we already connected outside of steemit... Hope you'll leave me some comments here and there, as long as I still give this a try... as you know, I feel pretty much the same about the issue and listen to the canary in the coal mine.... big hug!!!!
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@fishyculture ·
Absolutely, you are the "gem" I found on this adventure!
HUGS!
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@patrice ·
You haven't been flagged by steemcleaners. I looked at the posts and the full comment should not have been left as you are not tag spamming.  I edited it to the abbreviated version.

We've stepped up commenting on those using the 'steemit' tag after a post calling on user to flag posts incorrectly tagged 'steemit' were heavily flagged dropping reputations below 10. I've had to help a few members recover their reputation when they misused the tag. 

We don't target anyone. Either someone reported the tag misuse or one of our members happened to see it as we were curating.
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@fishyculture ·
A, fabulous. It is an entire team of self appointed thought police. But such benevolent cops, after they beat you up, they help put a bandage on you. 
What you all are doing is what will ruin this platform. If you did not READ THE POST then do not upvote it or down vote it. Bots ruling over the humans here... that is just stupid. Humans lining up to be regulated by bots hoping for a few pennies... pathetic. Humans grabbing the "power" of ruining then restoring reputations... TYRANNY.
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@prochef.bill ·
This is by far the best post I have ever read on steemit
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@janine-ariane ·
I am very sorry I never had your reward, I never even heard of it till now.  I do not like this,  but it is a bot is it not @steemitcleaners?  or will there be real people behind it?  I think it is set to certain words.
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@fishyculture ·
This is several months old now, and I stuck it out. Thanks for the kind words. I also learned some things since then, but I am still not 100% sure this is accurate - I think the cheetah is a bot, and when cheetah upvotes your post steemitcleaners, who is a person, comes and checks. If there is plagiarism, they will downvote you. If there is no plagiarism, the won't. The bot still shows up, and every time that bot "upvotes" anyone, their post is DEAD. People don't see it as an "upvote" they see it as an accusation of cheating, and then scroll on by. If steemitcleaners checks it out, cheetah should have to remove their vote, that bot IS guilty of serial "abuse" in my opinion.
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@janine-ariane ·
that sounds horrible! I had it with my contest, and I answered the bot with yes it is the same text of course and I hope to do it for years. Now it did not succeed but it never got flagged.  Like you say that is not a good system, I was on the search for steemcleaners when I came to your blog. I wanted to go there to somehow find out if you can not give a penalty to someone who you think goes very unrespectful about serious happenings like the shooting at that school and so on.
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