RE: It is ironic that the Communist flag is a red flag; and we are hell bent to pass "Red Flag" laws, to hand power to Communists here! by freebornangel

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· @freebornangel ·
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Lol, yes, you are right.
If you organize the work, it is yours. Factory, and all.
Nobody gets forced to do anything they don't want to do.
Especially someone so accomplished as to employ many locals.
Your prestige in the community will be cemented by what you do, and not what your grandpa did and you inherited.

However, under this new paradigm soooo much will shift culturally that it's apples and oranges.

I was fortunate that I have had an inordinate amount of time to devote to this subject, before I read these books I would have agreed with you.
It took me several days to get my head around being a 'commie'.

I've been past the Inola exit.
I have no doubt that the employees had no business acumen, that is why they are employees.

Now, picture this,...

You are a young man with your whole life ahead of you.
You are afforded what ever you need in the way of basics and education.
You decide you want to be an engineer.
Skooling is provided for free.
Your first job is waiting for you when you jump whatever hurdles the experienced engineers doing that job think a kid should jump before being trusted to learn these skills.

Your whole life has been spent in being socialized that bums are the worst form of human beings.
No bums can get a date.
Nobody cares if they eat, or not.
You will do anything to not be seen as one, because that is how you were raised.
You would rather mow the neighbor's yard than be caught spending too much time on the flashylight box.
Maybe you put some hours into the community vertical gardens.
20 hours a week will be easy enough to fill with something productive.
There will be no shortage of things to be done.

Now, you are 20-22.
You work roughly 25k hours doing what skool taught you. (More, if you like.)

This amount is derived by taking total manhours needed to keep the stores stocked, and dividing it by the total population between 20 and 50.
You work until you are 50, or meet your minimum, and then you can do whatever makes you happy.

If you are not professional material, you are diverted into what the local production needs to keep up production quotas.
You are free to find the work you are suited to do.
Whoever you replace will move on to what they want to do next.
You work the same minimum as everybody else.

Now, the main difference.

You will pay for nothing.
Money does not exist.
You order what you need from the web, or the local warehouse.
Your standing in the community will be determined by your contribution to the whole.
Your neighbors will know who the bums are.

Anything you want can be delivered to your door.
Limited only by your ability to get things delivered.
Your neighbors are unlikely to do things for you if they think you are a bum that consumes too much from the work of others without contributing your own labor in return.

That is the basic outline of Looking Backwards.

[And Then There Were None](https://www.abelard.org/e-f-russell.php) is more ancrap, they use a currency called 'obs', short for obligations, and works much the same way.
Everyone is given the opportunity to prove themselves worthy of trust, or not.

If we simply replace dollars with total work hours, we haven't left crapitalism behind, we've simply changed accounting techniques.
People that contribute on the scale of a Wosniac will naturally be afforded more stuff than a no account youngster just starting out, so consumption will vary.
The local doctor will likely never have to prepare a meal, or wash the dishes, though he can if he wants.

If you don't like your local options, you can travel.
When you get there you will be given housing and food, on the condition that your new neighbors don't think you are a bum.
With blockchain and the interwebz it will be increasingly difficult to escape a bad reputation.

You will not be able to escape your life tally.
I bet most people will contribute more than they consume, they already do.

When you die, your stuff doesn't get buried with you.
It can be handed down, or recycled.

If you order a masserati, and leave it in working condition, your actual consumption is very low.
Just the time factor, as the car is still worth one masserati.

To say that the status quo is the only option is not true.
More crapitalism is not going to lead us anywhere but where we currently are.
It is designed to keep an underclass in the mines and children on the slave markets.
More of the same is not gonna change things.
Playing crapitalism harder is not the solution, imo.

The robots are coming for everybody's job.
Do you want the displaced workers pillaging gated communities, or gainfully employed in locally organized work that needs done to improve our standard of living?

Because more crapitalism ends in pitchforks and torches in the hands of starving workers if we don't organize a better distribution model, and soon.
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@smithlabs ·
The difficulty is people. If you provide for someone and it comes with no requirements, they will do nothing. As they continue to breed, we end up with the movie "Ideocracy"

I have seen a SciFy story based on the Obligation model, but questioned it's effectiveness, know people's propensity to lie. 

As far as the mowing, I have done it myself, I used to mow about 70 hours a week. 

On the Bums, we have been feeding the homeless for 6 or 7 years, and are up to about 300 now. Some are there by choice, and some by circumstance; with a lot having substance abuse problems. The rest are mentally challenged or unstable; but all are GOD's children, so we make sure they get a hot meal!

Capitalism is the only model that produces more than it consumes regularly, and the only federal regulation that needs to happen is breaking up monopolies. 

Right now we need google, youtube, FB, and amazon all fractured!

I have installed and programmed Robots, and while they do replace some entry jobs, the make many more jobs that pay better than those they replace, so it is usually a net gain. 

There are also entry level jobs created to feed to robots. The primary gain is speed and repeatability. So job types change with automation, but I don't see them going away.

Be Blessed!
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