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@steemflagrewards is paying a return for downvoting,... Just tag the bot, list the abuse from their list, and get an upvote bigger than your flag. I've been doing it for months.
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That works on a small scale and I applaud whoever is altrustic enough to be responsible for that, but it wont scale up to address system-wide issues.
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@anthonyadavisii
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Is that to say that a million redfish cant have an impact on newbs abusing the pool? Folks are warned not to bite off more than they can chew. Leave the big abuse to the whales. Is crowdsourcing negative curation futile?
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author | freebornangel |
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Maybe not futile, hard to say that something can't ever work. But uphill battle though. Look how much stake is delegated to bidbots and then look how much is delegated to more productive uses. Usually, money talks.
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@smooth, >That works on a small scale It certainly does. The most significant limitation to scaling currently is simple bots SP although we have received much help as of late as more become aware of our work. We would like to reward as many good flags as possible to help realign the culture of Steem to that which is conducive to growth. We have curbed undesirable behavior on numerous instances of which I have been trying to bring your attention. I am currently designing a incentive solution for our moderators who spend much time reviewing and approving flags and, this is the first time I have revealed this, but will also have another role instated to QC the mods by reviewing a sample of approvals. Furthermore, we are preparing to deploy a front end to streamline our approval mechanism as Discord has proven to be quite cumbersome. I understand your concern with the widespread nature of abuse but, the fact of the matter is, we ARE scaling to address the problem. It is a continuous process of improvement via open source collaboration and the building of a cohesive and decentralized abuse fighting community. ### But wait, there's more. <sub> In Billy May's voice </sub> The next phase will be to launch and SMT which will grant access to our future flag fighting toolset and help power the bot. We are seeking alternative means of funding but, even so, you and I both know your support could be decisive. If you'd just give a chance, I am 100% positive you will be pleased with the results and it most assuredly would not go to waste like the below example. I already have a subset of the functionality being developed but it's barebones at the moment. For example, an interactive outgoing or incoming downvote report generation tool which can using account history produce a CSV report and a timeframe may be specified. One possible use case is in the initiation flag rewards campaigns, my "trademark" tool which has proven effective in multiple occasions. The technique has been used on SBD giveaway style vote farming, bid bot abusers, plagiarists, collusive voters etc etc. Here's a little demonstration of the sort of data I have been collecting. ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbjR9EfHVWthjNX8u49B1zdWUHM3nusksoPWC6hbxVin4/image.png) To put things in perspective, this is what our system is responsible for in the last 7 days with roughly 10 k SP. ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmb9USaC1nZJAyXSWrTVFrFPykxEyCsW3e6nFEZPDa93gp/image.png) Ultimately, we will be producing a robust and comprehensive set of techniques, tactics and procedures and tools to increase the probability the course of abuse at all levels and broadly will be an unprofitable venture. I do understand that with your @burnpost initiatives, if I am understanding correctly, you intend to reduce rate of inflation and, for this reason, if I recall, you were apprehensive to support any flagging initiatives that involved upvotes like ours. What if I told you that we could also help you reduce the rate of inflation. We have an account that we have been trying to build up for that purpose and, if you would like for us to flag under strict parameters. We are happy to oblige. We have plenty of abuse to go around with all the eyes we have on the blockchain. Furthermore, we aren't as limited in scope as SC. Whether it is a downvote only account to neutralize vote farmer that are constantly devaluing our tokens or a flag and burn initiative, I am glad to help. Just let me know.
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