<center><img src="http://i.imgur.com/XvE1L3F.png"></center> <h3>We are not against Gambling, Businesses, Crowdfunding etc...</h3> But quite frankly, these voting-games, and third party voting-projects where people send in their active or posting-keys corrupts quickly, and defile the purpose of what the reward-pool should be used for. <h3>Risk your own money and Win or Lose is the only right thing to do</h3> So to facilitate Gambling on Steemit, I propose we put a ban on voting-games by forcing them to decline payout and force people who want to gamble with Steem or SteemDollars do so with money from their own wallet instead of draining large portions of the reward-pool every day which truly does nothing good for the majority of steemians or the platform itself. It only make the account-owner fatter as he is raking in 50% of the author-rewards every day - many times per day. <h3>Steemit Long Term is more important then vote-games in Short Term</h3> During the Presidential election, someone on Steemit facilitated a successful game like that - Bet on Hillary or Trump - send money to this account and put hillary or trump in the memo and may the winners win and the losers lose, and the winners won, and the losers lost - and it was over. And it worked. <h3>With Great SteemPower comes great Responsibility</h3> So this is my proposal: - We create a smart-contract for betting purposes,that facilitate payouts and rake for the game host opening up for everyone to host bets without technical knowledge on how to set up an accurate payout bot by having the system do it for you. - We create a gambling section which cannot go on any trending pages but will be its own "gambling" section where everything is settled correctly after the games are over and the winners get paid by the losers minus the rake set by the game-host (should be 2% to 10%) - This will create more competition and a guarantee for the gamblers that the "house" is playing by fair transparent rules. - A complete ban on using VOTES as a method of payment for gambling. <h3>There will be a lot more MONEY in it for gamblers and hosts, and FAIR, as I donΒ΄t have to pay for it as an investor.</h3> <center><img src="http://i.imgur.com/B7uroJk.png"></center> <center>Tired of voting for Witnesses every three months? - go to https://steemit.com/~witnesses and set @fyrstikken to be your Proxy</center>
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author | fyrstikken |
permlink | the-big-voting-game-change-proposal |
category | witness-category |
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created | 2016-12-27 12:57:12 |
last_update | 2016-12-27 12:57:12 |
depth | 0 |
children | 95 |
net_rshares | 64,830,258,996,442 |
last_payout | 2017-01-27 23:51:42 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 27.028 SBD |
curator_payout_value | 3.495 SBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 SBD |
promoted | 14.486 SBD |
body_length | 2,392 |
author_reputation | 377,282,504,744,699 |
root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 SBD |
percent_steem_dollars | 10,000 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
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dantheman | 0 | 25,951,993,014,386 | 100% | ||
neogen1 | 0 | 436,995,270,842 | 100% | ||
hermes | 0 | 462,613,139,366 | 100% | ||
hermes-miner | 0 | 556,297,189,478 | 100% | ||
thorium1 | 0 | 317,223,552,797 | 100% | ||
thorium2 | 0 | 277,775,820,141 | 100% | ||
datasecuritynode | 0 | 4,690,061,981,036 | 100% | ||
bunkermining | 0 | 331,250,769,543 | 100% | ||
bitshares.org | 0 | 142,446,149,601 | 100% | ||
blockchainbunker | 0 | 94,215,006,874 | 100% | ||
blocktech | 0 | 33,885,898,341 | 100% | ||
neominer2016 | 0 | 8,840,476,139 | 100% | ||
abderus | 0 | 140,642,419,077 | 100% | ||
olympus-steemy | 0 | 6,100,919,176 | 100% | ||
hephaestus | 0 | 155,565,330,948 | 100% | ||
aquarius.com | 0 | 78,188,656,043 | 100% | ||
minosman | 0 | 34,089,908,905 | 100% | ||
aphrodite | 0 | 97,462,651,144 | 100% | ||
hotels.com | 0 | 11,870,100,855 | 100% | ||
aries.com | 0 | 9,792,564,408 | 100% | ||
rabbitminer | 0 | 56,818,128,382 | 100% | ||
insurance.com | 0 | 16,011,570,293 | 100% | ||
fund.com | 0 | 70,380,026,199 | 100% | ||
heracles | 0 | 9,394,632,720 | 100% | ||
bunkerchainlabs | 0 | 13,964,208,081 | 100% | ||
liondani | 0 | 2,221,979,199,268 | 100% | ||
wang | 0 | 894,923,729,014 | 61% | ||
ajvest | 0 | 439,139,626,862 | 100% | ||
tigerminer | 0 | 1,128,898,239 | 100% | ||
au1nethyb1 | 0 | 1,539,238,667,312 | 50% | ||
benjojo | 0 | 1,437,000,516,888 | 100% | ||
vip | 0 | 268,992,993,774 | 100% | ||
proctologic | 0 | 48,419,283,972 | 50% | ||
mecon | 0 | 17,884,092,825 | 100% | ||
peerplays | 0 | 207,939,481,835 | 100% | ||
full-steem-ahead | 0 | 35,580,259,325 | 50% | ||
apollo | 0 | 11,760,392,003 | 100% | ||
athena | 0 | 7,583,985,511 | 100% | ||
muses | 0 | 1,212,735,624 | 100% | ||
perseus | 0 | 196,752,964 | 100% | ||
proctologic2 | 0 | 819,503,736 | 50% | ||
chris4210 | 0 | 168,961,756,703 | 100% | ||
piedpiper | 0 | 588,899,434,556 | 100% | ||
noisy | 0 | 157,338,847,938 | 100% | ||
proctologic3 | 0 | 429,106,375 | 50% | ||
ervin-lemark | 0 | 27,458,382,176 | 100% | ||
ninzacode | 0 | 21,759,464,652 | 100% | ||
ivan-perez-anies | 0 | 21,667,525,869 | 100% | ||
carlos-cabeza | 0 | 10,048,917,438 | 100% | ||
germanaure | 0 | 343,849,492 | 1% | ||
kingscrown | 0 | 25,963,010,771 | 25% | ||
paco-steem | 0 | 264,973,708 | 25% | ||
dimimp | 0 | 0 | 0% | ||
spaninv | 0 | 1,559,932,512 | 25% | ||
teatree | 0 | 22,319,714,146 | 100% | ||
teamsteem | 0 | 320,770,714,206 | 100% | ||
cryptoctopus | 0 | 527,573,977,315 | 50% | ||
tmendieta | 0 | 26,680,887,166 | 100% | ||
klye | 0 | 168,010,232,986 | 99% | ||
kevinwong | 0 | 1,050,819,560,655 | 100% | ||
dragonslayer109 | 0 | 230,848,569,441 | 100% | ||
thecryptofiend | 0 | 460,311,972,605 | 100% | ||
m4ever | 0 | 18,406,861,970 | 82% | ||
applecrisp | 0 | 1,341,380,687 | 20% | ||
stellabelle | 0 | 1,824,845,517,962 | 100% | ||
stiletto | 0 | 96,404,569 | 25% | ||
juanmiguelsalas | 0 | 29,434,603,267 | 60% | ||
rednetkjh | 0 | 25,757,393,147 | 100% | ||
will-zewe | 0 | 193,987,922,102 | 90% | ||
kennyskitchen | 0 | 19,940,944,761 | 100% | ||
proglobyte | 0 | 757,743,216 | 14% | ||
grandpere | 0 | 31,638,011,532 | 80% | ||
albertogm | 0 | 15,215,169,463 | 100% | ||
geoffrey | 0 | 340,544,157,488 | 100% | ||
crok | 0 | 6,259,876,228 | 100% | ||
lukestokes | 0 | 362,791,992,360 | 100% | ||
christoph3 | 0 | 6,939,955,227 | 100% | ||
mctiller | 0 | 75,206,956,581 | 75% | ||
jonnyrevolution | 0 | 1,725,161,131 | 6% | ||
paul-gillbanks | 0 | 562,444,531 | 100% | ||
jakevanderark | 0 | 32,118,106,710 | 100% | ||
tskeene | 0 | 9,158,538,266 | 100% | ||
fyrstikken | 0 | 906,310,345,498 | 100% | ||
wisehammer | 0 | 1,703,790,258 | 100% | ||
skapaneas | 0 | 60,886,742,700 | 100% | ||
michaellamden68 | 0 | 908,638,680 | 33% | ||
roelandp | 0 | 170,410,965,000 | 61% | ||
orly | 0 | 2,938,015,017 | 100% | ||
konstantin | 0 | 17,047,665,666 | 100% | ||
elyaque | 0 | 109,922,714,753 | 100% | ||
r4fken | 0 | 18,857,584,236 | 100% | ||
tcfxyz | 0 | 25,356,312,199 | 100% | ||
futurefood | 0 | 41,789,890,610 | 100% | ||
bitshares101 | 0 | 25,990,501,835 | 100% | ||
strangerarray | 0 | 33,566,013,462 | 100% | ||
ausbitbank | 0 | 55,399,200,078 | 100% | ||
mrwang | 0 | 66,470,424,738 | 100% | ||
ardina | 0 | 3,044,172,455 | 100% | ||
splus | 0 | 1,685,703,452 | 100% | ||
vortac | 0 | 510,567,825,866 | 100% | ||
steemit-life | 0 | 225,338,778,494 | 60% | ||
asim | 0 | 11,825,632,423 | 100% | ||
toxonaut | 0 | 39,400,446,379 | 100% | ||
incomemonthly | 0 | 7,904,889,473 | 100% | ||
bobbylee | 0 | 442,792,279,583 | 100% | ||
igster | 0 | 23,636,362,167 | 100% | ||
juvyjabian | 0 | 33,968,701,640 | 100% | ||
thebatchman1 | 0 | 1,729,516,143 | 100% | ||
karenmckersie | 0 | 11,556,261,870 | 72% | ||
allmonitors | 0 | 21,331,163,457 | 100% | ||
luisucv34 | 0 | 16,673,641,036 | 100% | ||
streetstyle | 0 | 196,820,769,520 | 100% | ||
krystle | 0 | 16,277,899,551 | 100% | ||
inertia | 0 | 127,982,545,188 | 100% | ||
shla-rafia | 0 | 50,403,749,847 | 100% | ||
artific | 0 | 220,919,147,895 | 100% | ||
thebatchman2 | 0 | 676,365,634 | 100% | ||
kendewitt | 0 | 78,086,666,188 | 100% | ||
demotruk | 0 | 549,048,031,173 | 100% | ||
warrensteem | 0 | 23,974,837,695 | 100% | ||
nippel66 | 0 | 23,973,870,317 | 100% | ||
me-tarzan | 0 | 134,727,317,122 | 100% | ||
kimmar | 0 | 15,206,342,311 | 100% | ||
bones | 0 | 3,511,423,047 | 100% | ||
tarindel | 0 | 8,076,386,152 | 100% | ||
deanliu | 0 | 79,847,174,748 | 100% | ||
shredlord | 0 | 25,387,139,595 | 100% | ||
neroru | 0 | 7,999,034,482 | 100% | ||
james212 | 0 | 1,487,837,866,601 | 100% | ||
yarly | 0 | 1,581,593,901 | 100% | ||
yarly2 | 0 | 234,519,638 | 100% | ||
yarly3 | 0 | 234,868,714 | 100% | ||
yarly4 | 0 | 135,200,594 | 100% | ||
yarly5 | 0 | 135,976,220 | 100% | ||
yarly7 | 0 | 77,437,864 | 100% | ||
arnob | 0 | 3,580,877,861 | 100% | ||
sokoloffa | 0 | 2,831,749,747 | 100% | ||
prufarchy | 0 | 104,482,375,194 | 100% | ||
alsprinting | 0 | 43,035,068,839 | 100% | ||
moon32walker | 0 | 87,810,510,571 | 100% | ||
carlidos | 0 | 15,827,827,269 | 100% | ||
marius19 | 0 | 165,646,550,166 | 100% | ||
summonerrk | 0 | 12,022,895,022 | 70% | ||
clonewarz | 0 | 6,379,191,130 | 100% | ||
lemooljiang | 0 | 40,340,784,478 | 100% | ||
favorit | 0 | 13,709,417,906 | 100% | ||
yarly10 | 0 | 377,904,006 | 100% | ||
yarly11 | 0 | 201,307,991 | 100% | ||
brianphobos | 0 | 43,315,661,271 | 100% | ||
royalmacro | 0 | 19,321,917,375 | 50% | ||
yarly12 | 0 | 70,094,306 | 100% | ||
bkkshadow | 0 | 50,215,491,820 | 100% | ||
nadira | 0 | 2,869,156,448 | 100% | ||
beanz | 0 | 49,603,021,487 | 100% | ||
youngkim | 0 | 30,834,894,058 | 100% | ||
bullionstackers | 0 | 37,023,921,507 | 100% | ||
sujoy1990 | 0 | 1,596,366,471 | 100% | ||
ragini00 | 0 | 1,511,039,743 | 100% | ||
proglobyte-m1 | 0 | 578,979,133 | 8.4% | ||
sykochica | 0 | 45,235,390,336 | 100% | ||
atkins | 0 | 2,985,485,839 | 100% | ||
ronald0 | 0 | 1,383,330,534 | 100% | ||
jerremie | 0 | 1,860,029,461 | 100% | ||
steampty | 0 | 2,616,031,219 | 100% | ||
rosamund | 0 | 1,304,720,934 | 100% | ||
tingaling | 0 | 520,006,914 | 7% | ||
twinner | 0 | 1,075,109,716,668 | 100% | ||
handmade | 0 | 46,134,851,535 | 100% | ||
timcliff | 0 | 126,987,886,656 | 100% | ||
transhuman | 0 | 2,323,813,923 | 44% | ||
laoyao | 0 | 35,504,250,821 | 100% | ||
feelapi | 0 | 1,680,230,341 | 100% | ||
augur | 0 | 6,307,451,224 | 100% | ||
accumulator | 0 | 541,897,734 | 100% | ||
achim86 | 0 | 2,475,674,729 | 100% | ||
glitterfart | 0 | 2,540,503,841,734 | 100% | ||
caitlinm | 0 | 171,146,387 | 100% | ||
andrew0 | 0 | 13,479,789,144 | 100% | ||
kurtbeil | 0 | 17,230,830,500 | 14% | ||
sky.max | 0 | 71,184,177 | 100% | ||
steemleak | 0 | 5,346,046,066 | 100% | ||
ipumba | 0 | 3,696,288,729 | 100% | ||
d3nv3r | 0 | 3,596,991,393 | 100% | ||
velourex | 0 | 34,619,438,729 | 100% | ||
oflyhigh | 0 | 17,375,368,875 | 100% | ||
boddhisattva | 0 | 25,633,822,820 | 100% | ||
aigraph | 0 | 62,623,230 | 100% | ||
bidnat | 0 | 2,626,637,332 | 100% | ||
cristi | 0 | 5,178,176,041 | 10% | ||
numberone | 0 | 6,789,637,853 | 100% | ||
tommycordero | 0 | 0 | 0% | ||
zentat | 0 | 1,078,778,198 | 14% | ||
gardoz32 | 0 | 21,821,691,372 | 100% | ||
matrixdweller | 0 | 26,262,195,586 | 100% | ||
blocho | 0 | 9,085,476,701 | 100% | ||
chinadaily | 0 | 60,019,422,512 | 100% | ||
pjheinz | 0 | 28,528,962,378 | 100% | ||
helene | 0 | 10,113,743,436 | 100% | ||
virtualgrowth | 0 | 7,150,014,221 | 25% | ||
helikopterben | 0 | 530,429,939,966 | 100% | ||
cognoscere | 0 | 87,728,604,605 | 100% | ||
solarguy | 0 | 39,953,162,667 | 100% | ||
lamech-m | 0 | 4,857,449,826 | 100% | ||
serejandmyself | 0 | 239,407,640,963 | 100% | ||
almerri | 0 | 21,993,976,777 | 100% | ||
awgbibb | 0 | 11,100,412,417 | 100% | ||
neptun | 0 | 611,163,772,797 | 100% | ||
jsantana | 0 | 8,211,813,315 | 50% | ||
kenistyles | 0 | 1,408,483,941 | 100% | ||
leahmchenry | 0 | 21,850,820,051 | 100% | ||
generation.easy | 0 | 20,466,681,961 | 100% | ||
sethlinson | 0 | 3,501,642,078 | 20% | ||
hilarski | 0 | 31,268,711,878 | 20% | ||
harand | 0 | 24,119,789,585 | 100% | ||
shuvo | 0 | 1,346,471,410 | 100% | ||
shadowspub | 0 | 18,452,443,699 | 100% | ||
oldtimer | 0 | 392,031,496,355 | 100% | ||
inchonbitcoin | 0 | 406,974,427,728 | 100% | ||
jyezie | 0 | 3,200,920,910 | 100% | ||
steembriefing | 0 | 881,480,866 | 14% | ||
toolyman | 0 | 68,003,015 | 100% | ||
creatr | 0 | 25,758,878,637 | 100% | ||
barrydutton | 0 | 16,624,551,512 | 100% | ||
stephenkendal | 0 | 12,695,857,465 | 100% | ||
krnel | 0 | 489,509,877,451 | 100% | ||
pollux.one | 0 | 61,230,322,654 | 100% | ||
jlufer | 0 | 5,992,573,879 | 100% | ||
richardcrill | 0 | 69,372,757,811 | 100% | ||
blockcodes | 0 | 3,225,767,196 | 100% | ||
cryptochart | 0 | 80,851,439 | 100% | ||
kosmatimuc | 0 | 1,027,547,659 | 100% | ||
l0k1 | 0 | 47,200,664,391 | 100% | ||
titusfrost | 0 | 26,045,192,833 | 100% | ||
rileyechard | 0 | 5,379,897,282 | 100% | ||
shieha | 0 | 37,603,141,466 | 100% | ||
kyusho | 0 | 15,780,077,387 | 100% | ||
betamusic | 0 | 27,649,768,436 | 100% | ||
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steemit79 | 0 | 54,836,061 | 100% | ||
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renzoarg | 0 | 10,229,946,464 | 100% | ||
allyouneedtoknow | 0 | 15,025,938,716 | 100% | ||
sterneye | 0 | 53,812,685 | 100% | ||
nordland | 0 | 55,057,319 | 100% | ||
bitcoinparadise | 0 | 8,959,372,761 | 100% | ||
ballinconscious | 0 | 9,395,499,692 | 100% | ||
whatsup | 0 | 43,233,692,976 | 100% | ||
freebornangel | 0 | 4,245,886,015 | 75% | ||
nelyp | 0 | 24,428,849,422 | 100% | ||
tarekadam | 0 | 193,218,445,149 | 100% | ||
rynow | 0 | 29,696,513,702 | 100% | ||
steemmeets | 0 | 1,768,893,032 | 100% | ||
arama | 0 | 794,461,736,410 | 100% | ||
michelle.gent | 0 | 113,141,520,551 | 100% | ||
ocrdu | 0 | 24,021,097,714 | 100% | ||
lllchoselll | 0 | 1,509,248,424 | 100% | ||
jang | 0 | 3,641,104,703 | 35% | ||
xoxo | 0 | 1,175,130,866 | 100% | ||
thegame | 0 | 1,502,821,553 | 25% | ||
donchate | 0 | 8,397,544,788 | 100% | ||
faded-gravity | 0 | 10,160,429,202 | 90% | ||
psych101 | 0 | 1,267,568,977 | 100% | ||
timbot606 | 0 | 16,478,198,612 | 100% | ||
steembets | 0 | 1,359,946,677 | 25% | ||
saiku | 0 | 8,359,869,282 | 100% | ||
steemint | 0 | 534,043,381 | 7% | ||
lifeisamazing | 0 | 976,911,763 | 100% | ||
artists | 0 | 2,772,784,780 | 100% | ||
tintin | 0 | 1,776,222,364 | 100% | ||
anasz | 0 | 10,974,360,385 | 100% | ||
runrudy | 0 | 15,030,724,960 | 100% | ||
steem-hunter | 0 | 1,130,156,504 | 100% | ||
ninkhisibir | 0 | 6,539,267,738 | 100% | ||
steem-it | 0 | 1,859,041,950 | 100% | ||
mgibson | 0 | 5,954,164,146 | 50% | ||
food-creator | 0 | 3,849,763,627 | 100% | ||
hobit | 0 | 1,212,577,353 | 100% | ||
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katharsisdrill | 0 | 33,164,470,684 | 100% | ||
goldmatters | 0 | 119,114,137,921 | 100% | ||
budgiebee | 0 | 747,277,733 | 100% | ||
sherlock-holmes | 0 | 1,360,209,078 | 100% | ||
reddust | 0 | 51,283,746,815 | 100% | ||
dr0tcl | 0 | 9,887,316,716 | 100% | ||
sujoyks | 0 | 1,229,782,027 | 100% | ||
dixonloveart | 0 | 11,389,974,978 | 100% | ||
paulocouto | 0 | 711,109,877 | 100% | ||
frankches | 0 | 4,081,563,150 | 100% | ||
nonameslefttouse | 0 | 40,641,064,428 | 100% | ||
unhorsepower777 | 0 | 16,755,045,967 | 100% | ||
lalala | 0 | 371,579,982 | 100% | ||
papergirl | 0 | 2,743,075,492 | 100% | ||
giantbear | 0 | 26,097,243,491 | 100% | ||
steemito | 0 | 0 | 100% | ||
sochul | 0 | 101,906,165,262 | 10% | ||
goodgirl | 0 | 160,430,370 | 100% | ||
ebryans | 0 | 2,781,797,410 | 100% | ||
dragosroua | 0 | 86,063,601,356 | 100% | ||
jessamynorchard | 0 | 2,140,662,612 | 25% | ||
missk | 0 | 2,154,949,210 | 100% | ||
voterinterstpool | 0 | 139,218,740 | 100% | ||
voteinterestpool | 0 | 2,986,652,283 | 100% | ||
judasp | 0 | 7,077,467,311 | 100% | ||
raluca | 0 | 2,292,845,504 | 100% | ||
lovethepeople | 0 | 67,882,339 | 50% | ||
steemaccess | 0 | 132,183,196,405 | 100% | ||
jejujinfarm | 0 | 190,251,067,805 | 100% | ||
astrologybits | 0 | 425,765,660 | 100% | ||
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porco-bastardo | 0 | 65,962,544 | 50% | ||
ammy009 | 0 | 1,854,631,079 | 100% | ||
mowgli | 0 | 978,317,412 | 100% | ||
joanaltres | 0 | 12,986,320,846 | 20% | ||
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achintya | 0 | 1,355,539,455 | 100% | ||
j3dy | 0 | 124,973,867 | 100% | ||
nikflossus | 0 | 43,402,378,617 | 100% | ||
yoyoz707 | 0 | 88,098,293 | 100% | ||
blowsomesteem | 0 | 88,041,120 | 100% | ||
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mrfoot | 0 | 797,849,075 | 100% | ||
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countryfolk1 | 0 | 505,748,025 | 100% | ||
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cardboard | 0 | 1,925,286,513 | 60% | ||
sparkit | 0 | 6,790,523,108 | 100% | ||
heroeswill | 0 | 1,348,956,408 | 100% | ||
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germanlifestyle | 0 | 2,113,663,756 | 100% | ||
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lazariko12 | 0 | 3,635,490,106 | 100% | ||
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jaykan117 | 0 | 894,172,946 | 100% | ||
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good point and good solution.
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thank you - it is a result of a week of heavy discussions on @steemspeak radio. Come and join us at http://steemspeak.com - we talk steem 24/7 all year :)
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that seems a nice challenge. I'll look into it
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Good post@fyrstikken.thank you.best regards
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Thank you, and happy new year (soon)
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I dunno how I feel about it but every time you make one of these post they send out a bunch of payouts... Keep it up!
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Lets hope you feel better once your posts gets more rewards. And if you want to set up a bet, you can do that - and people will spend their money on it, and you can rake in some % as a bookie if you wish. :)
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LOL, I think you make some good points Sir, but if the community decides where the reward pool is distributed, and you "ban" something; isn't that kinda like "Centralized Gubment" ??? I mean, would you rather see someone who gives back 50% to the community get the rewards or someone who simply powers down every week and never even reads anyone else's post ?? I don't have anything invested in Steemit so I don't feel I have much of a say to be honest, I am perfectly willing to go along with the flow... Thanks for the post...
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I get where you are coming from with this idea however forcing your hand here by "forcing them to decline payout" sounds like Flag them to me, this is a very slippery slope and could set into motion a flag war that will tear the fabric of this community asunder. I urge you to move forward very carefully.
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We want to avoid having to use flagging - by moving the gamblers to a safe gambling-section where they can gamble as much as they want without affecting the author-payouts for all those other people who use this platform for blogging-purposes. Not naming anyone, not shaming anyone.
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I agree creating the alternative option then educate the account holders why it's a good idea not to support upvote betting. Ultimately it will be the support or lack of support (upvotes) that dictates which option will be successful.
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Yes, fyrstikken
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The way you phrase it, it sounds like the gamblers do not move of their own volition but are pushed to the new "safe gambling section" in some way. This means there is some kind of enforcement involved, especially as you mention "A complete ban on using VOTES as a method of payment for gambling.".
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I agree with every single word in this post! Thanks for sharing :) Upvoted and followed.
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Thank you for this post, I haven't seen this explained well yet but I think I understand it better now. Still not sure how I feel, has the betting communities or people running games defended their position on gambling and it not devaluing Steemit itself?
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cryplectibles | 0 | 4,885,601,878 | 100% |
They deflected the issue instead. https://steemit.com/voting-games/@fyrstikken/should-i-use-my-vote-as-payment-for-gambling-or-my-own-money#@thecryptodrive/re-fyrstikken-should-i-use-my-vote-as-payment-for-gambling-or-my-own-money-20161226t110212291z They would prefer to blame others.
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whatsup | 0 | 43,233,692,976 | 100% |
>A complete ban on using VOTES as a method of payment for gambling. How do you propose this ban be enforced? Edit: I do not believe that allocating some funds from the Steem reward pool to go to games of chance/prediction to be inherently abusive. However, I do think that it is taking too much right now. I think we can work out a way forward where such games (along with some funds from the reward pool) still exist but no longer dominate. The downvote exists for a reason, and if stakeholders don't want to pay so much for gambling funds, they are entitled to use it to that effect. Upvote for visibility, only partial endorsement.
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once the Gambling-section is established with the smart-contract to go along with it, there wont be a market for vote-games anymore. And those that try will be flagged for not posting it in the right section.
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---|---|---|---|---|---|
dantheman | 0 | 2,595,199,301,438 | 9% | ||
stellabelle | 0 | 1,824,845,517,962 | 100% | ||
demotruk | 0 | 549,048,031,173 | 100% | ||
nippel66 | 0 | 22,995,403,885 | 100% | ||
beanz | 0 | 49,604,600,153 | 100% | ||
matrixdweller | 0 | 26,262,195,586 | 100% | ||
sethlinson | 0 | 4,001,878,331 | 21% | ||
hilarski | 0 | 31,268,726,496 | 21% | ||
the.masses | 0 | 790,780,282 | 100% | ||
johnathanhenry | 0 | 52,631,596 | 76% |
I did a little [rough math](https://steemit.com/steemit/@sirlunchthehost/betting-is-it-hurting-or-helping-the-steemit-community-special-edition-preview-no-0#@demotruk/re-thedrollyears-re-demotruk-re-dantheman-re-noisy-re-sirlunchthehost-betting-is-it-hurting-or-helping-the-steemit-community-special-edition-preview-no-0-20161227t170728651z) on another post, to determine just how much @steemsports is taking from the reward pool, and my conclusion was about 8%. Looking at it that way, worrying about this may be much ado about nothing.
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author | demotruk |
permlink | re-demotruk-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t171817428z |
category | witness-category |
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That amount is growing and it is for the other betting games too. That will mean there will be no competition for those who are funding their content from steem and since the games are what the whales are increasingly supporting we are creating a small handful of large stake holders instead of lots and lots of dolphins.
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author | beanz |
permlink | re-demotruk-re-demotruk-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161228t123843423z |
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Great post ! I'm in full agreement , even though I currently do bet on the" sports "by Upvoted only . And there are many per day that do take in alot of money ! Steem on ! πβπ
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author | karenmckersie |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t131333489z |
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root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
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beanz | 0 | 47,245,399,787 | 100% |
good to hear @karenmckersie :) you too, steem on!
post_id | 1,631,212 |
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author | fyrstikken |
permlink | re-karenmckersie-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t133504500z |
category | witness-category |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:35:03 |
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I'm really trying to rethink a start-up betting game to go along with these guidelines I'm thinking though a game that includes chance and skill combined may be best getting people to take risk and putting up some liquid is hard in this current setup where they can upvote opposing bets just using vote power where there is absolutely nothing for them to lose. I do agree giving a whale a steak so you can eat crumbs is not fair to the community seeing those it cuts into the meals of all bloggers but as it comes to light more and people start to understand i think the community will make the right choice in the end. At least I hope.
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author | spbesner |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t131752104z |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:18:18 |
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root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
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I am sure about it @spbesner, we are still in BETA, and we are the BETA-TESTERS :) - and we have to facilitate this platform for the next million people that will join us. It will be GLORIOUS!
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author | fyrstikken |
permlink | re-spbesner-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t133843189z |
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I think this is a step in the right direction :)
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author | shieha |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t131855206z |
category | witness-category |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:18:48 |
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root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
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Thank you @shieha, I believe so.
post_id | 1,631,234 |
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author | fyrstikken |
permlink | re-shieha-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t133918929z |
category | witness-category |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:39:18 |
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I agree !πͺππ
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author | karenmckersie |
permlink | re-shieha-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t154053459z |
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created | 2016-12-27 15:40:57 |
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I think education would prove more effective than prohibition. Educate people about the risks involved and the consequences.
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author | seablue |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t132936248z |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:29:33 |
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root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
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beanz | 0 | 48,423,538,245 | 100% |
There is a lot of "education" material on steemit about vote-games and those things - a Prohobition is important in this case because it affects such a large portion of the daily reward-pool and only really benefit a few account-holders that are getting fatter and fatter every day. We got to be smart about our reward-pool so there actually is rewards to give to authors of blogs.
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author | fyrstikken |
permlink | re-seablue-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t134239762z |
category | witness-category |
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I agree, education is key. This has been a learning experience for us all. We could not know the damage vote-buying posts could do until we experienced it. The larger stake-holders used to take responsibility for this for us and we were very grateful when they explained how vote buying would manipulate the market and make the experience for other bloggers less worth their time. But then this became a bear market and they had a "change of heart". Unfortunately it is now up to the smaller stakeholders - you and I - and those of us who really want steem(it) to succeed, not just for the next 3 months, but to become the next generation social media platform and cryptocurrency. I see a bright future for STEEM as a gaming currency. That will not be possible as long as votes become the currency.
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permlink | re-seablue-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t135800104z |
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beanz | 0 | 48,426,509,098 | 100% |
Stellar Idea. Upped and Resteemed. https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://s27.postimg.org/oswomo9jn/www_GIFCreator_me_m_Xk_Bi_R.gif
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author | solarguy |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t132918469z |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:32:30 |
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root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
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karenmckersie | 0 | 3,852,496,573 | 23% | ||
solarguy | 0 | 39,953,162,667 | 100% |
I'm not into gambling myself but what you propose seems better for everyone. However, consider this. Those who are new to Steemit that *are* into the gambling scene and don't have much if any funds to gamble with will be barred from participation without an investment of some type, whether that be through posts, curation or transfers of crypto from external sources. For that reason don't be surprised if you get some pushback for this idea from those in that camp. I see nothing wrong with that. So what if that complaint is lodged. It only shows those that don't have the community in mind are acting selfishly. There is no free lunch (besides the opportunity to join Steemit) and if you want to gamble then ante up, one way or another!
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author | full-steem-ahead |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t133920892z |
category | witness-category |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:39:21 |
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root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
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karenmckersie | 0 | 3,852,496,573 | 23% | ||
beanz | 0 | 46,075,641,801 | 100% |
We need to create incentives for finding and rewarding new authors. This penny for your vote game is not going to do that. One way the developers could help new users would be to create an automated first post tag. So that every user who writes their first post can easily be found on one page. Other ways would be to increase curation rewards for accounts with less followers. That idea is not fully thought through, just throwing it out there.
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author | beanz |
permlink | re-full-steem-ahead-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t142523585z |
category | witness-category |
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created | 2016-12-27 14:25:27 |
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>defile the purpose of what the reward-pool should be used for But what should it be used for? I think in our case, we're quickly finding out what it should NOT be used for instead. So I think that may be a fair solution that you've proposed - thanks for voicing this @fyrstikken . Although I'm not sure why it's still going on. It doesn't interest me that much, but I thought it stayed because the top influencers might be thinking it's a good thing to do? I'm not entirely sure what's happening.
post_id | 1,631,275 |
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author | kevinwong |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t135043274z |
category | witness-category |
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created | 2016-12-27 13:50:45 |
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root_title | "The Big Voting-Game CHANGE Proposal" |
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It seems to me that with the removing of long term incentives to keep the platform healthy for the entire community we are now going through a transitional period where some large stake holders are looking for short term gains. The long term success is no longer in their interest. Things will change as they power down and we have a fresh community of curators who want to be curators to be curators, not to make a lot of money.
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permlink | re-kevinwong-re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t142830446z |
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created | 2016-12-27 14:28:33 |
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karenmckersie | 0 | 3,852,496,573 | 23% |
Good point and I support the idea. I don't participate in gambling posts and think that your proposal is fair for both sides.
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author | tarekadam |
permlink | re-fyrstikken-the-big-voting-game-change-proposal-20161227t135530521z |
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I saw your previous post on this matter and I've been mulling it over since. It's scary. The fact that steemsports has threatened @dantheman with a press release speaks volumes of their intentions and I for one have unfollowed them. I think there will be a lot of people behind you on this, but daren't do anything singularly for fear of getting noticed and flagged. steemsports has become a big hitter where rep is concerned and I suppose the only thing to be thankful for, where powering down is concerned, is that if they had kept it all, they would be well on their way to becoming even more powerful. I've upvoted and will resteem this post. Added by edit: >The fact that steemsports has threatened @dantheman with a press release speaks volumes of their intentions... This seems to be a bone of contention. If I can clarify that it's *MY* perception that a threat was hinted at - veiled or otherwise - that I'm commenting on here. **I** interpreted the announcement of a press release as a threat.
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> The fact that steemsports has threatened @dantheman with a press release speaks volumes of their intentions Wow, this is really concerning! Do you have a link to where this happened?
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I read it on this thread... wait a sec, I'll find it for you
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[Here](https://steemit.com/steemit/@sirlunchthehost/betting-is-it-hurting-or-helping-the-steemit-community-special-edition-preview-no-0#@dantheman/re-noisy-re-sirlunchthehost-betting-is-it-hurting-or-helping-the-steemit-community-special-edition-preview-no-0-20161227t044019265z) is the comment from @dantheman
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nuts!
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"The fact that steemsports has threatened @dantheman with a press release speaks volumes of their intentions and I for one have unfollowed them." This is insane. I am looking into that right now.
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Resteemed. Good luck.
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I agree with this. The general voting-pool should not be used for gaming purposes, and a inbuilt official system to help prevent fraud would be very much appreciated. Since the lottery was invented in the sixteenth century it has been regulated, but in Steemit-Klondike paying yourself should be sufficient.
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I'm happy to say that @steemsports is going to introduce 'Paid Plays' model shortly. Under this model, players cannot win by voting - but only by paying SBD/STEEM into the pool. The preview of our app is available at https://steemsports.com
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brandonk | 0 | 16,907,672,177 | 100% |
Coool stuff.
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@furion wow, that is GREAT news. Continued Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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Very happy to hear that @furion. Does that mean that the rewards for the bets will only come from the amount put forward for the bet, and the payouts from the posts will go towards the authors and editors and company? I think this will be great for everyone.
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Correct. If all goes right, the first PayPlay game goes live this Friday. We believe this is a scalable model for the future.
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demotruk | 0 | 560,253,782,132 | 100% | ||
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whatsup | 0 | 40,639,691,027 | 100% |
amazing job guys!
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author | kingscrown |
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You are sooo smart!
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As usual, you've got a great idea here that could really help the community and help bring more equality back to the rewards.
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I completely disagree Steem Sports and other games like this bring in a demographic on its own that adds to the diversity of steemit. . There have been some scams but they get weeded out quickly. Transparency is a good thing but why do you all have to decide where I use my Steem Power? I get peeved when I see people trying to keep Steem to some narrow demographic. Diversity is what will grow value. I know of 3 people personally who would not be here if it were not for Steem Sports they are not taking value away they are adding value. Now that they are here they will read and curate other things too and who know maybe even start blogging .
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smooth | 0 | 2,828,922,644,845 | 10% | ||
liondani | 0 | 2,221,996,865,075 | 100% | ||
kennyskitchen | 0 | 19,416,183,057 | 100% | ||
bleujay | 0 | 104,356,720,925 | 100% |
Where are these 3 friends of yours? Why is it I keep hearing from people who have been here saying "this is bringing new users" but I have not had an argument from a new user who came not to write but to vote for steemsports. (Queue fake users to back up this comment) And if they are here why are they not writing? Can they not see they would make more steem for adding a valuable contribution to the platform? Just a comment such as yours makes more than the steemsports payout!
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Not everyone is a blogger ?!? If you want to keep this space for your narrow little click it will stay just that why so fucking hostile !
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>And if they are here why are they not writing? Can they not see they would make more steem for adding a valuable contribution to the platform? This is your mistake. You (and others) keep insisting that only "bloggers" make any meaningful contributions to the platform. As I pointed out in my post that you said you had read (Content Crusaders), not everyone is a blogger or *wants to be one.* Some people come here to read, vote, and occasionally comment. They participate in the system - and yes, they also want to earn rewards for their activity (shocking, I know). Are such users not allowed to vote for games that earn them a small pittance for their efforts? Are you of the opinion that, if someone isn't contributing "meaningful" blog posts, they should just stop using the platform (as another crusader had suggested)? I know everyone likes to pretend that *their* preferred content is what *ought* to make the most money and earn them the best rewards, but they really need to get over this and start understanding that 1) this place is not *only* for writers, 2) it is designed entirely around the concept of *economic incentives,* and 3) if you don't like what the larger stakeholders are supporting, you'll have to convince *them* to change or you'll have to compete with them by raising your own stake. Endless complaints won't work well. Trust me on that.
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I don't see why it is bad, gambling with steem power. It is just an up vote and all up votes cost steem from the total pool. If a big part of the people like to use it for gambling Steemit is delivering that service and thats good for Steemit. Maybe this free gambling will attract more people to Steemit and let them invest in SP because there is a minimum to take part. I really don't see the difference between using SP to promote content that you like or a game (gambling is a game), an up vote will cost exactly the same and in both cases it brings satisfactory to the user. Please let the market decide if gambling belongs on the platform. If the users want it it is good for Steemit. However, I can understand that Steemsports is polluting the trending posts, but isn't it better to separate content and games and exclude games form the trending content. Same counts for porn, if there is a big market for it let Steemit do it, but separate it from the other content. Enforcement on a blockchain platform is a big sin in my opinion.
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>all up votes cost steem from the total pool This is exactly the problem. You don't take the money from your pocket and gamble it. You take the money from a pool that belongs to all of us. And the more that is taken to go towards this game, the less there is for other authors. In other words, it is not your money to play with, it is up to all of us to distribute. But if we first put this money through a filter that does its own redistribution then 50% of what goes through there gets stuck as SP. >Maybe this free gambling will attract more people to Steemit and let them invest in SP because there is a minimum to take part. Free gambling does not exist. What you mean is a free bet, and a free bet is a very hard sell. People don't buy it. > an up vote will cost exactly the same and in both cases it brings satisfactory to the user. The upvote doesn't cost you anything. In fact, you gain a curation reward back even if you lose the bet. The upvotes accumulated by many people upvoting the post costs everybody else. When you have 100 posts all making $5 rewards and you have one post making $100 payout, each time somebody adds their vote to that $100 post, rewards are taken from the other 100 posts we voted for. We voted less on them, but only because they did not attempt to buy votes. >Please let the market decide if gambling belongs on the platform. I agree with this. But gamble with your liquid steem or SBD, not the money that we are all responsible for redistributing. That is not the purpose of your vote.
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Agree with you on this one. Good move fyrstikken.
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Love the idea of a betting/gambling section. But I'm not too sure about the ban.
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>So to facilitate Gambling on Steemit, I propose we put a ban on voting-games by forcing them to decline payout and force people who want to gamble with Steem or SteemDollars do so with money from their own wallet instead of draining large portions of the reward-pool every day which truly does nothing good for the majority of steemians or the platform itself. This is a long sentence, so I'll address this in parts. >...I propose we put a ban on voting-games by forcing them to decline payout... How will you force users to decline payout for creating/publishing a popular (or potentially popular) game? By flagging if they don't comply? But more importantly - why do you feel that such posts should *not* be allowed to receive rewards? Do the creators or the posts not add value to the platform? If they add zero value, then why do people participate? Why do they become popular? Surely, someone must value the content, otherwise they would not vote for it. So, how do we quantify this value and should this quantified value be the metric we use for rewards distributions? >...and force people who want to gamble with Steem or SteemDollars do so with money from their own wallet... The acknowledgement here is that this is *not* gambling. So, to eliminate a "gambling" problem (which isn't gambling) we must explicitly create an actual gambling alternative. I've seen the concerns being raised about gambling on the platform and how it's bad for business, so once this new *actual* gambling is created, will there still be outrage about Steemit now becoming a real gambling site? >...instead of draining large portions of the reward-pool every day... The "large portions" - if you're referring to SteemSports - was something under 5% daily, I believe, when last calculated. While this likely represents a number larger than any other user who would post four times per day, it is not a significant portion of the rewards. Since SteemSports is pretty much the only vote-betting game in town (with actual support), their popularity and earnings are skewed. So, they aren't "draining" the rewards pool - and there isn't anything *abusive* about how those rewards are earned. We can disagree with how high their rake is or how those rewards are actually distributed, but voting for those posts is no different than voting for anything else. It's a matter of subjective value/preferences for voters. Prohibition won't change that. >...which truly does nothing good for the majority of steemians or the platform itself. If it truly does nothing good, then users would not be supporting it. "Nothing good" would mean that there is nothing positive to gain from the games. But we know this is not true - objectively and subjectively. >It only make the account-owner fatter as he is raking in 50% of the author-rewards every day - many times per day. Now, this is something that I have mentioned before. I disagree with how the account owner - in the particular case of SteemSports - distributes the rewards. It has been billed as "massive SP distribution game," but the distribution hasn't been very massive. If I was running the game in its current format, I would... 1 - Change the presenter/editor rewards. Presenters of the posts, since they are essentially on a rotation (they typically do not receive more than one game per day), should receive a larger payout taken from the "editor's" cut. The presenters are actually providing the substance of these posts. The "editor" (there are currently two, I believe), basically plugs that presentation into the pre-formatted template. These editors can realistically "edit" 28 posts per week - or 14 each. A regular/active presenter authors maybe 2-4 posts per week. 2 - Distribute the 50% SP author rewards from the posts. Since the presenters/editors are doing most of the leg-work - and since the posts are billed as "massive SP distribution" - I would be OK with distributing at least 30-50% of the SP rewards from the post, especially considering how high these post rewards have been in the past due to the number of whale "sponsors." For example: If a post earns $250 and the presenter/editor handled everything for me, I've made $125 in SP earnings. If my goal was to actually distribute SP for the community that supports my posts, then it would be acceptable for me to distribute $62.50 of those SP earnings. If I'm posting (not writing or editing) four times per day and earning those rewards, then I would be pulling in $500 in SP daily. Distributing $250 of that would be a great way to build my brand reputation and it would support my claim of "massive SP distribution." <hr> All that being said - it's not up to me to tell someone else what they can or can't post on the platform. I can only voice my concerns and choose not to support them. Calling for bans or flagging content simply because I don't particularly like it will get us nowhere - especially when the most popular content is always the target. (And yes, I get that "popularity" is typically manufactured here.) You're not going to get widespread adoption as a "decentralized" and "censorship-resistant" platform by constantly calling for certain content to be banned, flagged, or sent to their proverbial corners. Use your voices. Use your votes. Support the things that *you* like. Let's not start the banning flagging wars before this platform even has a road map. Ultimately, this feels like a "trending" issue. So, let's just fix the way that the trending page presents content rather than ban certain content because it finds its way to the trending page every day.
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berniesanders | 0 | 19,446,191,018,303 | 100% | ||
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Well, we create rules as we go along. We are the BETA-TESTERS of Steemit, and when we see something not benefiting the platform or the next million people to join here long term, we speak up, debate it and bring it forward to public attention. It is in our collective interest to tell vote-betters to stop what they are doing, just like we tell porn-stars to post NSFW tags, and Plagiarists to go eff themselves before @cheetaΒ΄s army comes and flag them to oblivion. None of these things are enforced by the individual, but by a community-agreement first and then by protocol later. As Knut Hamsund wrote: "The road is created by moving forward" and that is what we do, we create the road, and we fix sink-holes, and move forward.
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>Well, we create rules as we go along. We are the BETA-TESTERS of Steemit, and when we see something not benefiting the platform... This is the problem that I mentioned. What is our metric for "benefiting the platform?" And yes, we can "create rules," but at what point does the creation of all of these rules defeat the purpose of the platform and its stake-weighted voting concept? We can have legitimate rules for plagiarism and NSFW content - because these are things that can potentially drag down the platform as far as *legal* responsibilities are concerned. But we're talking about a disagreement with content and subjective value/preferences here. >It is in our collective interest to tell vote-betters to stop what they are doing... No, it is in *your* interest and the interest of *some other users* to do that. Unless you can demonstrate that there *is* a "collective interest" and that this "collective interest" involves pushing certain content off the platform or ostracized into a dark corner of it, then all of these calls for doing that are simply a certain group's interest - and this is why we allegedly have a stake-weighted voting system. If you don't like the content, then don't support it. Support the things that you *do* like...and gain enough influence/stake to make a difference. >None of these things are enforced by the individual, but by a community-agreement first and then by protocol later. Or, you can just "enforce" your preferences by doing what I mentioned above. When does "the community" ever agree unanimously on something? There will always be people who like or dislike certain things, especially social media content. What you and others are proposing goes against the entire concept behind STEEM/Steemit and it would effectively reduce the interest of building anything popular in this ecosystem - because the things that become popular are always being torn down or targeted (unless it's just 100% shit-posting...which is mostly acceptable and handsomely rewarded). We need to build up the community. If that involves temporarily giving people an economic incentive to come to the platform to vote and interact, then that's what we should support...or at least not condemn. Oh, wait...**_economic incentive is what this entire platform was predicated on!_** Well, then we better find something else to oppose, or we can always go back to Facebook, Reddit, etc.
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The betting games I have been involved with claimed to be redistribution schemes, as such, I think they should be required to distribute their sp on a per vote basis to everybody that voted. I support your separate page idea, taking from the reward pool that is to go to authors in order to reward gamblers does seem unseemly, and making it automatic and available to anybody that wants to set up a bet should attract a lot of attention.
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What is the purpose again? >...the purpose of what the reward-pool should be used for.
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I would also like an answer to this. We all have our ideas...and many of them conflict. Isn't this why we have stake-weighted voting?
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Hi @fyrstikken I agree with you
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My 2 cents: - Every time that you vote on *any* post you are "betting" that the post will do well and earn you curation rewards. - Every time that you publish a post you are "betting" that it will do well and earn you author rewards. From that perspective Steemsports is no different than other blogs with the added benefit to those that participate get paid part of the author rewards. This not much different from what happens when popular bloggers that are backed up by whales get a ton of votes. Steemsports would not do as well if it did not have whale backing. I must admit that I am biased (my SP has grown about 10x because of Steemsports and as a result my vote can earn me curation rewards). Now..we have to admit that there is no "free" market in Steemit if a handful of actors can determine what goes on the trending page...wasn't that something that steemsports was trying to address? If whales were not backing up Steemsports with votes would we be having this discussion? Well...that was more than 2 cents :)
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As of right now, that was 41 cents! Good job!
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>Every time that you vote on any post you are "betting" that the post will do well and earn you curation rewards. This is a gambling bet, unlike the voting games. In the vote games you are not required to gamble. Your bet is free and you are rewarded whether you were the first to bet or the last. Even if you lose the bet you still get curation reward. There is no gamble. The difference with curation is you have a limited number of votes before your curation becomes diluted. This means you are gambling when you bet on whether a post will do well or not. Only the people who were the first to upvote (taking 30 minute donation period into account) win the bet. A game that allows you to pile on and win at any time undermines the system built for us to create a decentralised social media platform. >a handful of actors can determine what goes on the trending page...wasn't that something that steemsports was trying to address? Have they addressed that? No! They just put themselves on the trending page. They have done nothing to diversify authors who are trending at all. >If whales were not backing up Steemsports with votes would we be having this discussion? No, we would instead be discussing whatever positive things they chose to supports or probably the next problem in line. If it weren't for the whale support this would not be a problem. Congrats on your 43c. Notice that one comment made more than a steemsports payout ever gave you!
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In a strict sense if you are not risking your own money I would not define it as gambling. Actually the most I have made from a single post was 9.5 Steem. Normally I make about 100x or more than the amount I get from curation. Curation gives me about 0.001 to 0.007 steem per post. I haven't done the exact math but it's around that. You can say it's pennies but it adds up overtime.
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I understand your point and I can see why you view that as gambling. You forget something though, a lot of people put they time on Steemit, which I believe is more valuable than money. So in a sense they are gambling with their time. On another end I can give small trade off: accept games that promote participation on Steemit. I invented a [simple game](https://steemit.com/steemlove/@cryptohazard/simple-game-guess-the-rewards-win-the-steem-usdusd-steemlove-edition) where people comment to bet. This promote Steemians interactions s which I think is very important. I mean I have had posts with a lot of loves but small views and even smaller comments. The cash is nice but that isn't why I am here.
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