Is biological evolution a ball rolling up a hill all by itself? by gavvet

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· @gavvet · (edited)
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Is biological evolution a ball rolling up a hill all by itself?
I had a science teacher, back at school, who, although he was a brilliant science teacher, wasn't to keen on biological evolution.
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To be fair, back in the 1980's evolutionary sciences weren't what they are today, but I think his religious views may have also clouded his views a little so that he didn't delve much deeper.

He felt that biological evolution was a ball rolling itself uphill.
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In other words, he felt that species evolving naturally and becoming more complex without any external help violated the laws of thermodynamics... mainly that entropy and disorder are constantly increasing.
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Entropy increasing is a well established fact. In this word of ours energy and other things follow the path of least resistance and as a result things tend to disorder or decay and become less complex over time.

Entropy tends to increase, not decreases.

At first glance it looks like species that are evolving and becoming more complex violate this fundamental principle.
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There is a way however for entropy to decrease and for a system to become more complex. For this to occur the system needs to be an open system. Energy needs to be able to flow into and out of the system, work also need to be done within the system. Life makes use of many open systems, that all do work, they are all around us.

We can observe this in something we do everyday, when we eat.
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By picking up an apple, chewing, swallowing and digesting it, we disorganize the apple. Or internal processes then extract the nutrients from the apple and discard the waste. Our bodies then use the extracted nutrients to build cells and fuel our activities.

Our bodies (`the system`) have taken in energy from outside (`the apple`) the system and used that energy to drive the work processes (`digestion, metabolism`). The metabolic process(`work`) has in turn increased the order (`built cells etc.`). To increase order you must also remove disorder (`waste`). This disorder (`waste`) is then removed from the system by going to the bathroom etc.
 
This also applies to biological evolution. 
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The planet earth is also not a closed system. It receives energy in the form of sunlight everyday, it radiates or looses energy in the form of heat that radiates out into space every night.

Life has many means of tapping into this energy flow. The organisms and species that are able to extract these resources most effectively are the ones that do best and ultimately survive. The competition between species for these resources is the work process and driving force behind the increasing order and complexity we see in biological evolution.

Basically the laws of thermodynamics are not broken, the energy required to roll the ball uphill, in this case, is supplied by sunlight and the work of rolling the ball is the competition between species. 

Each living creatures daily struggle for survival pushed the ball slowly uphill and thereby increase complexity over eons of time.
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@spinx23 ·
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Fantastic post, as a teacher myself, I am always trying to get students to understand their impact on the world around them. Thanks for sharing!
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@josediccus ·
This of course proves that light itself is a circle, every process of the human anatomy, seem to happen for a cause. For some we know how, for others we dont 


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@heart0048 ·
Thanks for share huge of information. I'm really thankful to @gavvet
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@theguruasia ·
@gavvet,
This is a great article and an interesting topic as well! Biological Evolution is something that we need to discuss deeply! Shame most of people has no clear idea about it! Yeah it's very complicated! Sometimes I am thinking how our body was build. How this system works and who created such things! I know it's hard to find answers! 
So keep sharing such great posts with us! This is really interesting topic to discuss!

Cheers~
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@livelifefullest ·
The ball will be capable. But what is up Hill .. ?
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@ninja25538 ·
I think it means that it doesnt make sense, like water flowing up a hill doesnt make sense, going down does
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@bearbear613 · (edited)
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awesome info.. I was just wondering if you are explaining science in ebonics LOL - "I has a science teacher"

In any case, there is hidden intelligence when anything evolves biologically. How do cells communicate with each other in terms of evolution. How is that communication passed down. I do remember from science class that bacteria are able to absorb past genetic info and evolve based upon that information left behind - thus anti-biotic resistance. But the way it is communicated and made to actually change is a hidden intelligence. In fact, without a brain you would think that impossible. Life truly is wondrous and these are the reasons I believe in a higher intelligent being behind the scenes directing. Thats where the true brain is.
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@extremedistaste ·
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Bacteria are able to "absorb past genetic info" in the form of plasmids, or circular strands of DNA. The bacteria then incorporates this plasmid DNA into their own genomic DNA through transformation. When the bacterium that underwent transformation reproduces asexually, the "offspring" carry the same genetic material, thus passing along the plasmid DNA sequence for generations.  This is the main process behind antibiotic resistance.
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@bearbear613 · (edited)
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ha! Thanks for the biology recap! My point however is how the bacteria "learned" to absorb that information and change. Each tiny bacteria is what like hundreds of millions of DNA coding? The coding is almost like an AI that can process that information. A tiny little computer that can evolve based upon what it learns? Don't you find that incredible? Now couple that with every organ within a human body. Literally a universe in itself.
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@serkagan ·
You asked a good question and by now the biological evolution has fully found its confirmation on the basis of scientific facts accumulated in various branches of biological science. Evidence of evolution is based on a comparative study of the external and internal structure, development and life processes of modern representatives of ancient extinct species. For this, there is scientifically grounded cytological, molecular biological, embryological, comparative-anatomical, paleontological, biogeographical information. So you are right, everything lives by evolution! Thank you @gavvet
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@ponts ·
Cracks me up that some people still think they are a bunch of monkeys living on a spinning ball.
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@torquewrench1969 ·
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As I monkey, I like it :) 

People don't expect much and if I start acting weird and throw poop, they aren't surprised!
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@somethingsubtle ·
As opposed to what? 

Man-shaped mud on a flat plane?
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@papma ·
a very great post.
I have a new post try to check
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@magnata ·
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Very good article. Your teacher is right and you are right it is not proven, but in nature everything is interconnected - the development of living nature, accompanied by a change in the genetic composition of populations, the formation of adaptations, speciation and extinction of species, the transformation of ecosystems and the biosphere as a whole....
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@germansailor ·
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Well explained.
Evolution only works because the transfer of the blueprint (the DNA) is copied very precisely, but occasionally small random deviations (errors?) occur. 
Usually the DNA modification is harmful. As a result, the new creature cannot survive and the harmful copy is erased. Tragic, but inevitable.
In very few cases the blueprint change is useful, then it will be passed on to the next generation and will eventually prevail. 
Now all it takes is eons of time. And that is available to life.
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@torquewrench1969 ·
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Also, as the environment changes, epigenetics  kicks in, turning on some genes and others off..

It's like putting a million monkeys on typewriters and waiting for a Shakespear play. 

With enough time and variance, amazing things happen!
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@fineliving ·
As a whole we are all evolving. We are not the same people/species that our parents or forefathers/foremothers were a few years ago. While your science teacher must have his own reasons to push back the Truth is now in the open: Life is an ongoing process of transformation. Thanks for the thought provoking article.
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@radeuane ·
Or @gavvet all that I mentioned is in. Quran Kakuni Muslim I am proud that God help me with this religion
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@mahisamim ·
I did not understand exactly this post. If you understood me like you and grew up like you, then I would have you to be Zero Rene. I'll get your help. I'm waiting for your help
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@abbiekhan ·
hi
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@mahisamim ·
What would you say?
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@hms818 ·
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There has to be creator to make these complex species, natural evolution is not rational explanation.
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@germansailor ·
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Maybe you haven't understood the principle of evolution yet.
Counter-question: where does the even more complex creator come from?
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@littlejoeward ·
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counter-counter question. ;) Where did anything come from? Is there a start? Is there a beginning? or is the answer something our brains can not comprehend right now?
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@unconditional ·
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@safrijals ·
Very good.
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@vangelov ·
The human mind and brain have the potential to heal and develop the body. The thing is that we have forgotten how to use them because we are too busy FREAKING FIGHTING over material belongings. 
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@juniadi ·
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@underground ·
Raising vote-begging to a new level, 13 of 15 give an up-vote! LOL 
ME TOO! (14 of 16)  ;)
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@singa ·
The article is very interesting and relevant. Thank you for your thoughts.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f1/94/68/f1946882e28b064a873ec02d7c5f1b17.jpg

We should not just contemplate and enjoy nature and the wonderful animals that inhabit our planet, but also to think, to analyze, to explore, to imagine.
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@nabes ·
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why do scientists always say that religion clouds there views of evolution, creation and so on?

Im not a religious person or a scientific person Im a layman. but in my opinion, there are experiences that i have had, others have had and people of science cant explain said experiences. they have a theory, but no real proof. 
so i just dont get how scientists just dismiss something that doesnt have 110% proof behind it, even if they seen it happen with there own eyes.

to me it doesnt really matter, life is great and things change, but ive always wondered why scientsts just hate on religion, whats the reasoning behind that?
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@littlejoeward ·
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In my experience, it seems that many religious people don't have enough faith in their own beliefs to listen to others' opinions and many scientists are too prideful to admit that they don't know all the answers. Put those two together and you get a recipe for argument, hate, and fear.
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@nabes ·
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thats a really great and logical way to explain it. that totally makes sense now! 
when it comes down to it, id say its ego based. not everyone has all the answers but they feel, pretend or think that they do, than comes the arguments, hate and fear as you put it

thanks!
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@erikvantools ·
I Like This post And i Really Like The second photo :) Good content :) keep it up @gavvet
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@ramaisdrama ·
Hey,

Thnx for your post, I like the read of it.
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@waygreenergrass ·
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Well done! I'm going to show this to my mother.
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@ponts ·
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How many evolutionists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

One, it just takes a really long time.
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@gavvet ·
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It would be a lot faster if the evolutionist was a bacteria... but then the light bulb would be screwed in by successive generations of the bacterium's descendants.
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@chi.rho ·
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DEVOLUTION IS EVOLUTION TOO 
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Whatever veracity there is in pointing to a subsystem as evidence for the dynamic that caused the system, there is no less veracity in pointing to the system as evidence for the dynamic that caused the super-system. That is to say, your notion that eating validates evolution is logically equivalent to the notion that man validates God.

What is missed in all of these evermore common and oddly framed "issues", all of which leave us peasants incessantly belittling each other, is their origin and purpose. For those who remain genuinely oblivious in that regard, just ask yourself with whom their one allowable (sociallly acceptable) position is perfectly aligned, always and everywhere. 

What is proselytized under the banner of "Evolution" is no more about biological changes than "Global Warming" is about temperature changes. Both are political, not scientific. The one has nothing to do with a fossil record in which species inexplicable and suddenly vanish and reappear with hundreds of millions of years stasis and gaps, nor with the quantized quaternary chemical code proven to design all form, function and intelligence of all life forms in all of creation. And the other has nothing to do with temperature trends of a planet recovering from her most recent of many Ice Ages. For a hint to a clue, those who do NOT deny the latter are maligned as "deniers", notably by political activists not by scientists, with evermore calls for criminalizing heretics who question the state's political dogma.

What I'm saying is that the 1st world mind has been hacked by its merciless political hustlers. Reality isn't a two party system. Science isn't "settled". And "denier" is NOT scientific lingo. Don't blindly follow the political psychopaths' siren songs. Theory B is in no way validated by the idiocy of Theory A. Rethink everything the authority figures proselytize to everyone over their entire lives. That includes all the reference points and metrics subtly proffered thereof. EVERYTHING.
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@alexmavor ·
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hmm interesting analogy - but I would more say that it is a ball that is both carving out a new path and adapting to the new environments in which it finds itself!
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@roziansyah23 ·
Good post.
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@iamericmorrison ·
#sweet!   Love this... I think you may like www.jackkruse.com  I am starting @radiofusion and would like to have people that are interested in this topic on!  thanks and keep up the great work.
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@cguib ·
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Excellent! I really like your conclusion. Everyone, every living creature push the ball slowly uphill. Obviously, natural selection plays its role but every individual makes the job to roll the ball uphill!
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@mawit07 · (edited)
So to summarize the living creatures evolve around the conditions they live in. Have you watched the recently created file "LIFE"? Very good concept of what is being thought of regarding evolution.
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@ponts ·
Thinking a ball can roll uphill by itself is about as intelligent as thinking your ancestors were a different species.
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@gavvet ·
step back and read up a bit on the science, you may be surprised
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@michaeltzu ·
Step back from science and try philosophy. Isn't most science using the language of mathematics? Never seen zero in my life. Never seen 1 for that matter. Pure abstractions if you ask me. If what is physical is considered to be real where does maths come from? Thinking? Where does thinking come from? Complexity? Everything is back to front.

Without out a doubt science is useful. The problem is that it has been elevated to the status of truth and therefore beliefs become facts.
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@oldmariner ·
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I also was a science teacher and was also a working biologist. Evolution of the species by natural selection is pretty much a given for biologists. Bacterial evolution can be seen within a few days and I doubt that many people infected with MRSA would say, "No give me that old time Penicillin. What was good for my grandfather is good for me."

The origin of life is NOT part of 'the theory of evolution thru natural selection.'  

http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/ev.not.html

Non-biological evolution also occurs, the 'robot' revolution taking place right now is a direct result of 'machine learning.' No one is trying to actually WRITE the code for a self-driving car. The code evolves.

The origins of life is another subject entirely. The chemical origins of life is a rich field of study that is producing many examples of chemical evoution.
http://www.astro.sunysb.edu/lattimer/AST248/lecture_13.pdf
https://www.nature.com/subjects/origin-of-life

Two important points to contemplate are:
1. The immense span of time it took for self-replication to arise.
2. Living things are only JUST good enough to survive and replicate. After billions of years they are pretty good at it but it is still only just good enough.There is still lots of room for improvement.
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@bilal07 ·
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@oldmariner ·
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@majes.tytyty ·
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Fascinating post. Regarding the 2 "important points" in the comment, they reminded me of a brief but brilliant, thought-provoking quote by the philosopher Ken Wilber. He once stated something to the effect, <em><b>"From amoeba to man, from man to what?"</em></b></em>

Another time, Wilber wrote, <em><b> "If man and woman have come up from amoebas, then they are ultimately on their way to God."  </em> </b></em>  (Although I prefer to use the term "divinity," which does not have all the baggage of terms such as "god" or "allah" or "krishna.")

Looked at in that light, there's plenty of room for improvement and lots of time for improvement. Like, a few billion years. 

Implicit in Wilber's thought is the understanding that man is not the be-all and end-all of evolution. To assume that we have evolved this far (from amoeba) and that's the end of evolution is absurd. 

Another point to consider is the fact that (our) evolution is speeding up. Of course, there are plenty of obstacles, there are many factors holding us back, and there will be plenty of regression (devolution). But a cursory look at any history makes it quite clear that our evolution is becoming increasingly rapid. 

Onwards, and full steem ahead. (pun unintended)
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@colonel24 ·
very long comments LOL... Sorry, jsut wanted to react here...
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@michaeltzu ·
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No thing can evolve to "God" if by "God" is meant that which exists without limit. Evolution is movement. For that which is without limit there can be no movement. Evolution is ultimately just movement.
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@smartcoins · (edited)
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I believe in Chaos theory. Evolution of the species  is like the  vessels of a river, they always follow the road of the least resistance, that consumps the least energy.

 If a mutation is favorable, it leads in the "right" direction, the species will develop further in that direction. 

If a mutation is not favorable , it leads in the wrong direction which will become almost immediately a dead and for further development.

So actually the ball rolls downhill.
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@gavvet ·
Yup, it appears to going uphill when in fact it is following the path of least resistance
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@sowzolorvil ·
nice post thanks  @gavvet
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@mattclarke ·
$1.41
To clarify, what's evolving in this example? The apple or the eater?
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@gavvet · (edited)
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Neither, it simply illustrates how open systems take in energy to perform work and can thereby become more complex and ordered.
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@mattclarke ·
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Thanks for clarifying. Did you have an example of anything evolving?
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@ebruaydogdu ·
Mukemmel fotograf... Farkinda olmaksa apayri...
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@themadgoat ·
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I find a lot of evolution deniers don't really understand how evolution works. Animals don't get enough evolution points and evolve like Pokemon. Environmental factors and random genetic mutations cause slight changes in groups of organisms that get passed down to offspring. Then you fast forward ten thousand generations and see what's different.  Evolution is simply noticing how things change over time, which shouldn't be hard to believe.
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@underground ·
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Except nearly ALL mutations are detrimental to the well being of the organism and future generations. What we have is a built-in level of adaption that gets called "evolution".  Perhaps it is...?  Not arguing for or against, just throwing that out there for consideration.
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@edumurphy ·
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Detrimental mutations *are* detrimental. That's evolution and natural selection working exactly as expected :D
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@themadgoat ·
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That's absolutely true, and the part many people don't get about evolution. It isn't a ladder that species climb, it's random chaos. Some changes are good, some are bad, and some don't matter either way. The best possible humans might have died in a famine a thousand years ago and we are the worst case scenario. Evolution has no goal or agenda. It's just recording how things change over time. We breed dogs for certain traits, which is basically us controlling evolution, and we have a lot of useless breeds of dogs to show for it.
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@jasonshick ·
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Exactly, evolution is just adapting to the environment and over the course of centuries, the creatures that adapt the best, pass on their genes. What is very scary is that there are still many people who deny evolution in the first place
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@madushanka · (edited)
Thats a brilliant blog entire terific title conversation. Definetely I want think most of this topic. Some of religious views with start come  the biological evolution. But evolution come to the planet before long period. Biological evolution concept has long been accepted as a palatable theory aiming at explaining how life began and how creatures diverged so widely along the life span of the earth. I can discussing more about this. Thats long topic.But my opinion is evolution is an illogic concept based on theoretical hypotheses that can never be tested.The biological evolution needs reevaluation as regards most of its basic assumptions. Basically Biological evolution encompasses three issues. No. one is the fact of evolution. Second one is evolutionary history. Third one is the mechanisms or processes. But priority one is first one. I don`t need to say any words about biological evolution. You have Nicely explained the main title.
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@badol1994 ·
thank you very much for your post
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@nicholas83 ·
$0.90
A science teacher with this kind of thinking?
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@gavvet ·
Probably qualified in the 1960's so there is some room for leniency.
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@nicholas83 ·
I guess, but either way. I was of the view that science leaning individuals would be open-minded. Furthermore, that theory would have been around for a while and accepted by many within the community. I guess he was not one of them. But I guess you are right. The 1960s is some ways off, and science has come a long way since then. Great post by the way.
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@kenhudoy ·
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I cannot agree with you more as always @gavvet on entropy especially these lines of yours
"There is a way however for entropy to decrease and for a system to become more complex. For this to occur the system needs to be an open system. Energy needs to be able to flow into and out of the system, work also need to be done within the system. Life makes use of many open systems, that all do work, they are all around us."

all these revolves on systems theory which centers on input/output option which you analysed well here. More so, in nature vs nurture...whatever you give, you get either biologically through genes or enviromentally through society or peer groups/ family.
thanks as always sir for your educative post!
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@asifali975 ·
encouraging post
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@mynameisbrian ·
> I has a science teacher...

Yeaaa I'll go ahead and stop reading right about there. But great post man!
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@gavvet · (edited)
unfortunate typo... one that spellchecker doesn't warn about.
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@mynameisbrian ·
I normally wouldn't mention it, but if you are going to up vote yourself to the top of the trending a quick proof reading would be nice.
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@waygreenergrass ·
Brian let me guess... you're only fluent in English.
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@mynameisbrian ·
You guess wrong
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@nurdinnakaturi ·
nice post and pic
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@edumurphy ·
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Interesting contrast with your Garden of Eden series< @gavvet. I see you are a very broad thinker; admirable.

Well, not really much to say about the post itself; you've said things I agree with entirely and explained the processes involved succinctly πŸ‘ πŸ‘
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@hasida420 ·
nice my friend
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@bangmax ·
That an interest post about evolution, that good , keep going on that in giving many useful information.
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@wihnongkaltoa ·
Nice post πŸ‘ Thanks for sharing and and very useful information. Congratulations ✌ @gavvet
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@zaffron · (edited)
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i believe in the biological evolution but i don't believe that i was evolved from monkeys. If you really believe that human actually evolved from monkey, then could you count for me how many monkeys converted into human since the emergence of Darwin theory ? 

i wasn't a monkey and monkeys will not be human at anytime.
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@gavvet ·
From the above it appears that your grasp of the concept is very incomplete, I recommend you read up a little more.
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@themadgoat ·
Evolutionary biologists don't actually think we came from monkeys. We share a common ancestor with monkeys. They went their way and we went ours. Tens of thousands of years ago there were more than one species of humans as well but the other species died off.
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@zaffron ·
Is there any scientific proof that ""tens of thousands of years ago there were more than one species of humans"" ?
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@silovar88 ·
I like it
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@mikel2la1 ·
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@rizwansadiq ·
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@nikhil28 ·
nice post
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@delilonia ·
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@emekaacquaye ·
Evolution sure is a ball rolling uphill...its amazing how the process takes place, mind boggling in fact
i remember my biology class on lamarck's theory
Nice post, really educative
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@nayem01 ·
truth...! nice post.
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@vaerospace ·
Actually we have to consider DNA as evolving , which it is not . DNA is adapting , coping but never changing , experiments have shown DNA can actually form in a hermeticly sealed quartz silica test tube entirely out of "nothing". We now suppose that DNA exists as a Blue print in other dimensions , DNA's ability to famously imprint itself  in and on timespace is now also the stuff of legend , Evolution exists in jewish printshops and and greedy software houses , IT DOES NOT exist in reality
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@rajashams ·
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@imperfect-one ·
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@gavvet - picture from Wroclaw? Are you Polish? :)
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@muhammadkamal ·
really super & mind touch post and pic like it.
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@lemniscate ·
This is such an interesting topic of discussion. And I believe it has been for a while. I say as long as you have enough energy to facilitate work being done in these system, and you have an infinite amount of systems then you van have an infinite amount of posibillities. Why not? D:
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@munna00 ·
good
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@fernandorivera ·
Eons of time? I dont think so! but great post! :)
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@stbrians ·
According to me the teacher was right. I do not believe in evolution too
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@ahisoner ·
yuruyen cücelerin dünyayı güzel ifade etmiş
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@ahisoner ·
I don't believe in the theory of evolution...
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@somethingsubtle ·
A fact doesn't require belief.
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@michaeltzu ·
Exactly. So is it a fact that the Earth is round or flat? No cheating. No answering just because you happen to live in the twentieth century. Just kidding.
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@afrin299 ·
I liked your post very much thanks for using steemit, hopefully post further better posts
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@mindhunter07 ·
yes you right in the universe all the creatures are rolling their balls uphill but some are succeeded  and other are rolled down by their own ball and lost their fortune.
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@keks ·
$0.02
Awesome info. I really like your conclusion.In fact Everyone individual has hidden intelligence. Nature truly is wondrous and natural selection plays its role. Thanks for sharing!
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@simivalleyjeff53 ·
All you need to see about how entropy works is to see the fossil evidence of highly complex flora and fauna and then to realise that they are no longer around. I love your posts. They really make one think in different ways.
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@drsaranshmittal ·
Woww..!! Amazing stuff..!!
Liked it...
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@hanen ·
Very well explained, thank you for sharing!
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@steemedchitty ·
One way of saying it may just be that as long as energy continues to flow through the system, there is no need for the orderly energy that makes it to dissipate into disorder (because, ultimately, there is still energy being dissipated, just not the one that represents the building blocks of the system). 

This was an interesting post. I had actually never questioned the fact that systems being organized, complex and often _increasing in complexity_ seemingly went against Thermodynamics. I might have spent a good while mulling it over in my younger years, had I asked myself that. 

I guess I was too busy thinking about the most... let's say... "exciting" aspects of Thermodynamics like the fact that it inevitably dictates the cold, empty end our universe shall eventually reach.

So much for my dreams of living forever.
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@michaeltzu ·
Are you saying the universe is an open system? Or closed? Big bang theory implies that it is closed doesn't it? Can there be evolution in a closed system? Just asking.
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@caoquocthi ·
I do not know what you think, as far as I know, the more evolved the world, the less human consciousness of the environment. Let try once time see everything around you, you will realize nature is crying for what humans have done to evolve. Such as: rising temperatures leading to greenhouse effect, smoke dust everywhere in major cities, diseases, natural disasters...

SO I DO NOT LIKE CHANGE, BECAUSE CHANGE IS NOT GOOD!!! 
Do you agree with me???
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@hydrogen ·
It's not possible to increase the entropy of the whole system(universe). The problem with your eating example is that you add things to the system, this IS increasing the total energy of the system as you describe it, and increasing average entropy once you start removing low entropy waste. It makes sense when you already understand the system is open and entropy everywhere is decreasing, but looking at systems in such an isolated way is likely why your teacher developed his flawed views. Outside of theory there is no perfect system (except for maybe the universe), even a double walled vacuum can't keep all the energy in a system isolated; living things don't even try to function as an isolated system, so you shouldn't look at them like they are. Evolution, or life as a part of a larger ecosystem, needs to be considered in respects to all of the other factors interacting with it. This could practically be limited to the Earth, Sun, and Moon in our case. *atm*
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Complexity is also not inherently good or necessary for evolutionary success, that's simply a philosophy we have because of our biased views of life. Bacteria are the major life-forms on our planet, even if they're not doing much living. To compare complexity to height, and from there take the entirely metaphorical height and potential energy and use that as an argument against literal entropy is asinine.
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@nikosnitza ·
Perfect post!!!
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@iqbaldunk ·
Oustanding explanation, I believe that every single creature in this world has its benefit and purpose that each other connect to those. In many ways, this connection will produce essential transformation as well as evolution, for instance not only involving DNA also culture and social life elements
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@ivanong ·
Yeah! Nothing happen automatically. It is the evolution be it human driven or natural selection which make our life better. Evolution is for survival. It is compulsory not necessary.
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@aejackson ·
Well written article - especially the story tie in with your teacher - I can’t say I followed everything perfectly, but I’m not a huge biology student. 
I do enjoy the Creation vs Evolution debate and hope we find common ground to continue advancing science, medicine, culture, and philosophy 
Until then! Well done!
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