RE: Hardfork 20: What to Expect Tomorrow by glenalbrethsen

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steem · @glenalbrethsen · Sep 25 '18

$0.05

Hey, @andrarchy. Thanks for responding.

What would constitute commenting, posting and commenting a lot? For instance, I'm a participant in @abh12345's engagement league, so we're encouraged to engage. There's some folks who are averaging between 200-500 comments a week (one much more than that), along with 4-12 posts, and somewhere between 100-300 upvotes. Is that considered a lot? Or is that one of the things we'll be finding out?

Most of the folks who do this are minnow-sized or smaller, so they're not high SP accounts. They're doing this, in part, because of the exposure commenting on a larger scale can bring to their own posts, and they're trying to spread their votes as much as they can, too.

👍 beeyou, headchange

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@andrarchy · Sep 25 '18

Let me put it another way, if after the RC system goes into effect those activities run down your RCs faster than they did bandwidth, then *by definition* you were taking advantage of the inaccuracies in the bandwidth system to overburden the blockchain and you were passing the associated costs onto your fellow Steemians. It's a dynamic system that will be changing all the time *forever*. Specific numbers cannot be given. It is totally impartial. All it cares about is how much resources are being consumed by the network, who is consuming the resources, and how much stake they have. All of those variables will be constantly changing, which is why specific predictions can't be made. If you want to consume more resources than everyone else, then you have to have more STEEM powered up. That was clearly the intent behind bandwidth, and that same intent is behind RCs. Bandwidth is just worse at it. If you believe in Steem and want to make it sustainable, then you will have to adjust your behavior or power up more STEEM.

👍 gentlebot

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@glenalbrethsen · Sep 25 '18

Okay. Thank you for the information and clarification. We'll see how things shake out then, and hope that all goes well with the HF 20 in general, and RCs in specific.

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@investingpennies · Sep 25 '18 (edited)

Well said.  I think that's really the crux of it.  People need to power up some STEEM and actually partake in the contributed value of this blockchain rather than trying to solely exploit it at someone else's expense.   (not directed at anyone in particular).   But really, way too many people here are focused on selling out their steem rather than powering it up to become partners with the community instead of exploiters of it.

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@tcpolymath · Sep 25 '18

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Yet at the same time, if comments at a human social interaction level turn out to be too expensive for the blockchain to handle, that's a real problem for the sustainability of Steem itself. Essentially what it says is that the current technological level of Steem is insufficient to handle its core functions.

I don't think that's likely to happen but I don't see how you can be essentially blasé about it.

👍 andybets

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@beeyou · Sep 25 '18

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Fortunately for some, they receive delegations from Asher which would increase their RCs, but it will be interesting to find out!

👍 glenalbrethsen, headchange

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@glenalbrethsen · Sep 25 '18

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Hey, @beeyou. NIce to see you, as always. How are things, other than busy, busy, busy? :)

You and andrarchy pretty much answered within seconds of one another so I'm not sure if you saw his reply to the comment you just replied on or not. I'd encourage you to take a look at it if you haven't and tell me what you think once you have.

👍 beeyou

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@beeyou · Sep 25 '18

Thanks for the notice @glenalbrethsen. Oh, life doesn't seem to be slowing down any. I was away on vacation for a couple weeks and just now catching up. Still behind for the most part and I suspect I will always be so. I'm glad to read your wife is doing better. :)

I support the idea behind RC consumption and user behavior. I know engagement is encouraged but it is meaningful commenting that should be encouraged more so than daily conversing. I too am guilty for leaving my share of spammy comments here and there, ask @headchange, but that might be my one or two comments for that day. I probably had my share of daily conversing in my earlier redfish days and hope that I am not being hypocritical of it now. Perhaps my perception changed as I learned more about this platform. It would be interesting to see the results on the league going forward, for sure. Perhaps nothing will change afterall? :)

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@headchange · Sep 25 '18

$0.03

Dropping a comment so I can follow the conversation. This sounds like something that could have a huge impact. Makes me very grateful for the sp I have.

👍 beeyou

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@beeyou · Sep 25 '18

Hard for me to follow along even after dropping a comment. It works when I am online at the time, but once off..lost cause.

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