RE: Tired of this “Red pill, Blue pill” Analogy by intothewild

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· @intothewild ·
>What if I think you are abusing the rights of animals by killing and eating them, or confining them?
What if you raise your children in a way which I find to be abusive?
what if you legally own the rights to a large plot of land and I have no land to my name. In your mind that land is yours and if I take food off of it and build a little house on it I might be committing a crime.

These are simply disagreements between two parties. To which they could be handled in court (if necessary). Those three examples are **you** stating that **you** don't like something that **I** am doing. None of which effect you personally or negatively.

You lose nothing if I decide to be a carnivore, even though you may disagree with it.

You lose nothing if I raise my kids in a way you don't approve of. If it gets to the point where most people would claim it to be abuse, take me to court. Still, **you** are not effected negatively either way.

Taking land that I own is stealing, and therefore you would be a thief, regardless of your less than ideal circumstances.

Clearly you can see the difference between disagreements that don't effect you, and opining for government to force your neighbor at gunpoint to do something you approve of that they might not want to do, no?

That's the point I am trying to make when saying *woke*. Disagreements are one thing, forcing people to behave the way you want them to, when it doesn't effect you, is wrong.

> I still don’t regret not flipping my desk over every single day at school when I was forcefully kept in school.

lol, same here! How much time could have been saved...
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@whatamidoing · (edited)
But your concept of ownership and theft has affects me in a negative way and could easily be considered oppressive by those who are hungry.  Your faith in court and faith in the concept of ownership have made me powerless and very much affect me.  Raising your kids to believe in these concepts is also oppressive to me when the concepts themselves are oppressive.  I’m just making a point here. 

It’s really all perspective.
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@intothewild ·
> I’m just making a point here.

Playing devils advocate or do you stand behind these ideas?

To me, those are kind of analogous to "your life is oppressing me so I get to kill you." Are we not all beholden to the golden rule? Unless sociopaths?

Reminds me of this meme:
![nature.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZP8Tj61HjLQShFLoKV2KAB6khiqoojiKbJUA9DNHSUNr/nature.jpg) 
[source](https://www.google.com/search?q=nature+is+oppressing+me&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=_V9ZCCmcSHTEvM%253A%252CQHSs2-Sbf8B29M%252C_&usg=__Qh6xN7oZZz6ogkgImcCAOp3649E%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj33q6flujbAhXPAIgKHSuoC6MQ9QEIKzAA#imgrc=_V9ZCCmcSHTEvM:)
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@whatamidoing · (edited)
That’s a cute way to pick fun at anyone who doesn’t have a job.

There is one huge detail about this meme that is missing, no one is telling him he needs to pay for that rock to sit on or that land to hunt on.  If he has the means to feed himself and it’s nature he’s up against, yes he’s being lazy.  If it’s other humans coming between him and his food it’s a very different situation because they claim resources for themselves and call it civilized.  It’s sociopath to throw fresh food into the garbage every day when there are people starving because they couldn’t pay for it.  Or to not allow homeless people to build their own houses on what we deem “public property”.

It’s very easy to sound civilized when we have lives that are working out or own our own land or means of production, and believe that everyone could do the same “if they just work hard enough”, but it doesn’t always work like that for everyone.  

And I don’t condone killing anyone.

  I don’t really condone stealing either but I place it below keeping food from someone who is starving on my “list of bad bad”
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