RE: Christmas versus Politics by jacobtothe

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ramblerant · @jacobtothe · Dec 28 '19

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Laws vary from state to state in the US and from country to country, but [it's not like](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/06/food-waste-charity-may-be-prosecuted-over-out-of-date-produce) my argument is [made up.](https://newfoodeconomy.org/harvard-food-safety-code-report-grocery-store-waste-donations/) The US is very litigious, and businesses can't afford the risk of lawsuits. They rely on byzantine laws as interpreted by many layers of bureaucrats and lawyers. They err on the side of not being destroyed by lawsuits.

The federal government can pass all manner of laws, but their focus is primarily on gaining and entrenching more power, not actually caring for people. And if they did pass such a law, I guarantee it would become an expensive burden, not a blessing, because governments have no measurement tool against which they can balance their opinions. They pay no penalty for being wrong. They always claim virtue regardless of the unintended consequences.

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@cyberdemon531 · Dec 28 '19

> but their focus is primarily on gaining and entrenching more power, not actually caring for people.

If this were 2016 or 2017, you'd be right. But we are in a world post-2018 where there are clearly signs (AOC, Ilhan Omar, Bernie Sanders' campaign) that your way of thinking isn't dominant anymore, and that's the first stepping stone to fixing the problems you and I discuss. You just need to stop living Online, and try going outside and talking to real people about their material needs.

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@jacobtothe · Dec 29 '19 (edited)

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I deeply disagree with the principles and methodology of AOC, Sanders, et. al. They still suffer the same moral hazard, economic calculation problem, and public choice pitfalls of a central monopoly funded by extortion. They cannot create cooperation, peace, and justice when using the means of the State, because the means of the State are fundamentally coercion, war, and injustice. We need voluntary, grassroots solutions instead, many of which exist already despite the State.

You only see what I do online. Why must you assume it is the extent of my interaction and activism? Set aside your prejudices.

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@cyberdemon531 · Dec 28 '19

>We need voluntary, grassroots solutuons instead, many of which exist already despite the State.

Thats exactly what their campaigns are about. You can pretend to disagree with them to keep up with your fantasy land meme philosophy, but they are NOT bought out by ANY special interests, and that is the point of my post.

>Why must you assume it is the extent of my interaction and activism? Set aside your prejudices.

Go on.

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