RE: What Does The Steemit Community Feel About People Who Post Only Photos That Don't Belong To Them? by joseph

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· @joseph ·
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I'd be more concerned if some guy started a blog about "fine a$$ women" and started posting pics of his a$$ :D

but on a more serious  note, not sure how this can be dealt with, let's assume the guy is a fan of classic cars, and started posting pics of classic cars, does he really need to own the pics?  honestly I do not know if the fact steemit has rewards makes it less of a social media website. This question would not come up on facebook or twitter, that's what I judge by now. If we take the rewards factor out things are a lot easier to consume as OK content.
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@mirhimayun ·
i second you on this man...That really is a thing to ponder upon... Has Steemit changed to Rewards and Money only or is it still the Most advanced Social Media.
But I suppose if he/she isn't uploading his own original content, but work of some other person, atleast he should cite a source for that. Doing so would definitely make that a Steemit Post..."where you post what you love." Just a thought!!!
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@markangeltrueman ·
If he is a genuine fan of classic cars, I would expect some kind of cool dialogue around the pictures that he is posting - that's what makes this a content creation site and not a copy and paste site. Its easy to tell the people who are just here for the fast buck as they invest no time in their posts.
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@stellabelle ·
exactly! People who are passionate about their topic can be allowed some leeway! But I will warn people, there already have been cases where the artist/owner discovered that their photos are stolen! If this shit gets more out of hand, then we are all in trouble. Keeping this place clean is essential for reputation. Everyone needs to help! We can't leave it all to one person, dept.
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@ackza ·
have cool captions and theyre passionate about the photos AND credit them , its ok, funy how I had thought about that too, and how the fine line is a determination if the person posting is ethical enough to understand the whole citation thing and the difference between copy pasta and ading value and using a photo u cite, 

lets be glad this person isnt making much money or upvotes at all! and that MOST spammers and content theives who copypasta here are failures at it!

But theres something that makes me believe that they think thi is what theyre supposed to do! They see people posting photos etc and so they go and find photos to post! 

The idea of making money attracts bad people, but its fine, it will soprt itself out

when we have tns of millions ofusers soon, nd then hundreds of millions like reddit, things will be so big and crazy, theyll be SO many cliqs and sub groups, there will be wars , whole wars like antiufa vs alt right shit

there will be mgtow vs feminists, there will be al sort of culture wars going on via flaging!

OMG its gonna be crazy!
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@stellabelle ·
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I'd be the first to welcome more male ass. I am sick of seeing women exploited everywhere I go....if they exploit themselves, well, that's different. But others exploiting them, that's what I think is disgusting.
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@markangeltrueman ·
you dont want to see my ass, i can assure you of that.
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@itchykitten ·
speaking for other people are we?
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@stellabelle ·
ha ha
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@bryner ·
Yeah, mine neither.  If I show mine, someone may think an ape escaped from the local zoo.
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@isaria ·
I agree.  I think it's horrible that these people are posting pictures of women without their permission in order to profit.
Even if they put the link to the original source it would still be wrong if the women didn't give their permission.
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@stellabelle ·
exactly. It's not right PLUS IT'S ILLEGAL.
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@itchykitten ·
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>  But others exploiting them, that's what I think is disgusting.

this ^  I'm not really sure what we can do about it, other than community flagging and such, perhaps we start a downvote trail :P
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@maxabit ·
No, he doesn't need to own the pictures. But at the same time has he been allowed to use those pictures - that would be a more pertinent question. 

Google classifies images clearly according to their usage rights. In fact all images have usage rights - the ones that don't mention anything get the benefit of doubt and it is presumed that they cannot be used.

<center>![](https://image.ibb.co/d7gbra/plag.jpg)</center>

Most people would be surprised if they got to know that there are very few images are actually free to be used in posts. Usage rights are even mentioned against each free image on sites like Pixabay.

Even if an image is free to use the source must be mentioned beneath the image or in the post with due credit. 

I have given my suggestion in my comment below.
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@ackza ·
OW trhanks for thsi! i had no idea google had that featue of showing the "usage riughts"

In my opinion, intelectual property is a silly concept, and untill we fix global poverty and feed the 800 million chronically undernourished human beings, then we can live with peopel ignoring copyright...I mean in south america whole video store industry is based on selling copyrighted music and DVDs...are you sayingthat we should enforce copyright laws in Ecuador and force Thousands of people to loosethir jobs? ;) see im using the RIAA MIAA argument against them! its all subjective, and i wish people would accept that they DONT and CANT own information .   And when it comes to these image licenses, its a silly thing to believe we can control what peopel post

I am wondering, can steemimages take down images?? I know steemimgs cant upload things to steem blockchain, or does it? I feel its a seprate image server, and im worried that all images in our posts will become broken links.....

but if it IS permenant, what if somepone uploads an image, and theyt get sued and a court ordersthem to tke down a post....What happens wen they CANt take down the post becauseits on teh steem blockchain?

will the witnesses organize a manual erase of content? if they do that they will mak steem look bad, they cant ver ever do that, it will defeat the opurpose of steemit. Anywa thats al hypothetical, haha here i am getting mad about something that hasnt even happened yet
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@maxabit · (edited)
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Using "labeled for reuse with modification" is the safest category to use for images on your blog, since posts on Steemit get paid. But you will hardly get any images as a result when you choose that option. 

> ...if they do that they will make steem look bad.

It is already happening. Rampant misuse of private images from the internet, including profile pictures to earn a quick cent, and even blatant use of someone else's image as a profile pic!

In the coming months or years it is going to snowball into a major issue - that is, when one of the giants on the internet stand up and decide to do something about plagiarized articles and unauthorized use of copyright images on Steemit. 

Anyone who claims authority and has power on a web platform cannot shy away from ownership of issues, whether it is a blockchain or not. If someone has enough power to flag things to oblivion, it is presumed that he also has the power and authority to do other things.  

However,  I am not a legal authority on the subject. Consider it a whine pertaining to a legit issue, from a minnow who is all for the universal good of the community.
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@wakeupsheeps ·
All of the years I spent on Twitter, I rarely saw anyone site a source for pictures, videos or articles.  It may be a consequence of the limited characters a tweet can have or the fact that there is no money involved.  That sort of behavior will and has entered the steemit platform, as there are more new accounts daily.

What is the answer?  What are the repercussions?  Will there be law suits filed against high reward posts that use unsourced content of others?

@stellabelle is correct in questioning what the actual policy is.
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@fitinfun ·
When people take the content of others - the appropriate recourse is to file a DMCA takedown request.  This is a long-standing issue in my blogging groups. For example - I make a post on my blog and tomorrow someone copy/pastes it into their blog. The takedowns work if you keep up with them. After a  few - the host will kill the site since they do not want to have to deal with it. The takedown goes to the host - not the person who stole the content.  

This happens to people who post recipes frequently.  If the post is text, food pics and the recipe it is tempting for others to steal. So my friends' entire posts will be up on 10 sites in 24 hours. Lucky for me - no one cares about natural weight loss so I have a had very few issues in 7 years - but I have had them.

Here's the info for the takedown. I'm not certain it would work if used here with the decentralization. Who is the host on steemit? I'm not sure. The DMCA checks for the first posting and all the others get the notices. https://www.dmca.com/FAQ/What-is-a-DMCA-Takedown
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@wakeupsheeps ·
Good to see that there is actually some recourse out there.  I haven't blogged other than Steemit, so the world of intellectual theft didn't really affect me much.  I see the problem, when you state that your friends content is all over the internet in a day.

My wife and I were just talking about how much we hate the fact that money corrupts everything.  Obvious necessary evil, but it is so pervasive.  Whether it be bribes, campaign contributions or outright theft, there always will be that person who desires to pervert the system to benefit themselves.
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@ackza ·
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BOOM EXACTLY! When Money is involved ALL OF THE SUDDEN people start complaining! Its REDICULOUS! The Money is NOT Us dollars its STEEM and it is NOT coming FROm the photios!

we are NOT selling the photos! (I am NOT defending content thieves im just making a case for the fact that there ius no such thing asintelectiual property, theres no real estate in the 4th dimensional thought ether...u cant own an idea) ANYAy the whole idea of making money off a photo only applis iof your SELLING IT and if your getting paid for a post using someone lesesphotos, what if theres 4 photos in thre> and some text? Who is to say that the TEXT was resonsibel foryour upvote? And how would u split up themoney> would u pay the person a 5th of the posts rewards? what about if the price of stem DROPS? an also, what if i dont want to coinvrt my steem to BTC and dollar bills? Will the person acceopt steem to get paid bak for the money u make of their post? Its like having to pay taxes on steem rewards...the IRS doesnt accept steem that I know of, yet, LOl untill they make an IRS account to pay them, ythats a nightmare waiting to happen shit

ANYWAY  back yto my VERY passionate argument, I AGREE with you 100 Percent that I have NEVER EVER seen people worry about citing images on TWITER or facebook OR EVEN REDDIt most of the time even when a photo is on front page!!!!  People dont EVER care about citing images ion Instagram and they make ALOT of money marketing using Instagram!

WTF yah youre so right! people NEVER EVER care about citing images ion twiter! twitter LOVES the traffic the copied images provide!
Now AL of the sudden, people see that Steemit users get Rewards and thing were getting PAID and NO, we arer getting UPVOTES, the steempower we reciuve is NOT money its STEEMPOWER. Its also not money when we get SBD, thoe are steem dollars and they are NOT us dollars! Its just MATh and its NOT REAL MONEY and if the US government wants to recignize it as legal tender they will haveto actually allow us to pay off debts with steem and buy stuff with steem....they cant force us to powerdown to pay them/...and what if you "loose' your steemit key? seriously what if steemit goes down and u cant acess your steem?!?!?!

Seriously peopel are SO !UICK to want to TAX and SUE a Sucesful website that JUST started JUST because its sucesful! but who KNOWS if we will ven be able to ACESSour steem in teh future! ANYTHING coiuld happen!

haha people create a system where all of the sudden billions of dollars are generated by computers, and people on the one hand claim its not real,m and on the other hand want a piece of it and demand we pay taxes on it WITHOUT telling us WHY we should, as if they IMMEDIATELY claim crypto currency profit is fucking capital gains, and then when people see us making money off a post that includes a photo that isn't ours, they think they deserve that money???? Like Iu said that was never an issue on twitter! Noone demand they hare theur followers or upvotes aftr using a copied image!
Mayb we should just HIDE the price on posts! make it only visible to people who are logged in! 
I thought showing the price would always be good, but maybe we need to keep this on the down low, keep it low key OR present the Payments in a more accurate way. or anonymous. It would be cool to have some sortof anonymous wallet, using a mixer or something, splitting up all your money into many different accounts, but anyways its going to be a pain in th ass dealing with all the SNAKES that come OIUT of the wood work to find ways to sue teemit users, after they find out they cant sue a decentrlized blockchain
steemit.com can shut down and we will be fine and can just ue busy.org but we wont ever have steemit.com shut down because someone will always always bring it back online! And thre is always busy.org and thre is steemdb and chainbb and you can even access steem from command line
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@wakeupsheeps ·
@ackza, that about covers it all  :)
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