Does The Sex Of A Child Affect A Mothers Future Health? by justtryme90

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Does The Sex Of A Child Affect A Mothers Future Health?
Hello to all mothers and fathers out there! Congratulations on your families and I hope that your children are all going to grow up to be movers and shakers in our world! You are nurturing our future as a species with your children, however have you ever wondered whether having a child has had an effect on your health? Lets take things a step further, have you ever wondered whether your child was a boy or a girl had an influence on your health? Seems like a nonsense question right? There can't possibly be any sort of link between these things! Or is there?

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<center>[Image Source](https://pixabay.com/en/baby-boy-smiling-kid-infant-happy-390555/)</center>

Today we discuss research recently published in the [journal Nature: Scientific reports titled "Offspring sex and parental health and mortality"](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-05161-y). Here the authors were looking at just that, the sex of a child, and the potential for adverse long term health outcomes for either parent.

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# Number of Children And Mothers Mortality

Remember when we are talking about mortality, we are talking about our likelihood of death from any cause. One area of study where people were looking at the effect on peoples lifespans has to do with whether or not they chose to have children, and what effects the number of children raised, have on their long term health (and likelihood of death). 

There have been a surprising number of studies looking into this idea and the data that has been generated thus far may actually be surprising to you. For instance [one publication](http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00324720500436011) found that, throughout history, having more children was associated with lower mortality. However in analysis of modern women it found that was no longer the case,  it was observed that women who had either **no children** or had **more than four children** had higher mortality (aka they were more likely to die). Unexpected right? 

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<center>[This article feels a bit depressing, so perhaps I will fill it with some cute babies to lighten the mood](https://static.pexels.com/photos/41307/baby-child-cute-doll-41307.jpeg)</center>

The above referenced article isn't the only source of data pertaining to number of children and potential relationship to parental mortality either! There have been a few indicating that having more children may result in a shorter life for a parent in modern times. [[3](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1568163707000207)]. However these studies pertain to having a bunch of kids, having kids in general is still thought to increase lifespan (especially in that 1-3 child range). [[4](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16510865)] (yet another example of moderation in life being important... shows up everywhere it seems).

# Does Gender Of The Child Matter?

Prior research on the subject  postulated that ... yeah it might, as odd as that may seem from a common sense standpoint! Researchers have postulated that boys, being more difficult to raise then girls, may end up causing extra stress on their mothers and lead to decreased lifespans for those mothers. [[5](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20299140?dopt=Abstract)]. This sort of idea has been supported by other publications, where it has also been reported that male children reduce longevity in mothers. [[6](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12004121?dopt=Abstract)] While others pour cold water all over it and don't observe any correlation between male children and longevity of mothers. [[7](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21551178?dopt=Abstract)]

There are a variety of both physical, and socioeconomic factors relating to this discrepancy, life is not black and white. The article we are going to discuss today was written to look a bit more into the potential associations of the sex of your child and whether or not it effects the mortality rates of either mothers or fathers or both.

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# So How About Some Results From The Study We Are Actually Discussing?

<div class="pull-left"><img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmTjVjiCqVnCRwsdaNyfugt25vEcAXhV7zZGDgGAbF9hGE/image.png" height="45%" width="45%" alt="Figure 1"> <center><sup>Figure 1</sup></center></div>

So here we are looking at some plots depicting the "hazard ratio" for death from a cardiovascular event (like a heart attack or something of that nature ) with respect to the number of either male or female offspring had for both mothers and fathers. The first thing that I think we need to clarify is what "[hazard ratio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazard_ratio)" refers to. Basically this is the rate at which someone is likely to experience a "hazard" (in this case cardiovascular trouble). If we are examining two groups of people and one group has twice the rate of heart attacks when compared to the other, then they would have a hazard ratio of 2 in that comparison. 

In Figure 1 we see that the correlation between number of children has a U shape, where having two children results in the lowest hazard ratio regardless of whether those children were boys or girls. This trend is observable for both mothers and fathers, but is way more pronounced for mothers. What we can also see from this plot is that the increased likelihood of cardiac events with more children is much MORE pronounced for women who have had four or more male children. Odd right?

## Other Results

- Having a boy as the first child was associated with higher risk of death (by 2%) in general in women but not in men, for men there was no association at all. Having a girl as the first child resulted in no change in mortality risk.
- The increase in mortality from having male children was mostly due to an increase in the chance for a cardiovascular related issue.
- For other diseases (non cardiovascular) a correlation was not observed

# Why Might This Happen?

Why are these negative health outcomes so prevalent for mothers but not fathers? Its a good question. One such possibility could be due to the hormonal changes that women experience during pregnancy. These changes are not the same for a male and female child. The authors explain that for mothers higher levels of [oestrogen](http://www.merrionfetalhealth.ie/what-is-oestrogen/) and [testosterone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone) are associated with having male offspring. However having female children results in higher levels of [progesterone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone) and [gonadotropins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonadotropin). [[8](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8776463?dopt=Abstract)].

It is entirely possible that the exposure to these differing hormone levels may effect the health of mothers down the road. This would also partially explain why the overall effect on the health of fathers (from number of children, shown in figure 1) is not as significantly affected as it is for mothers.


# A Random Observation

The sample sizes used in this study are HUGE, they took into account data from over 600,000 women and 600,000 men. So over one million total data sets. That is a lot of information to parse through and analyze. It also produces a higher degree of credibility to the associations they pulled out, as they truly have to be present across a very significant number of people for it to not be swamped out by the sheer size of the population.

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<center>[You made it to the end, so you've earned one more adorable baby picture](http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/pictures/160000/velka/mignon-bebe-aux-yeux-bleus.jpg)</center>

# Closing Thoughts And Answering The Title Question

It is strange to me that there is this association between the gender of the children we have, and the potential for mortality of a mother. Yes the sex of a child affects a mothers future health, male children raise the chance of cardiovascular events (heart attacks etc. ). The idea that hormones during pregnancy may be involved is an interesting thought, but the whole concept is a bit unsettling to me. What do you think about all of this?

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# Sources

1) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-05161-y
2) http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00324720500436011
3) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1568163707000207
4) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16510865
5) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20299140
6) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12004121
7) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21551178
8) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8776463


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@cyberblock ·
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They can definately relate more with a daughter than a son. So it would make a difference for sure! Nice post :)
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@justtryme90 ·
Thank you for reading
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@jwolf ·
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I am feeling sad after reading this...
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@justtryme90 ·
But there were a lot of pictures of cute babies!
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@jamhuery ·
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this is great observation, informative post @justtryme90. restemeed 
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Thanks man! Glad you liked the post.
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@egoectomy · (edited)
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I find myself thinking: what's the porpose of searching what's the easier gender to raise? Can you imagine finding a more practical way for parents to choose the baby's sex? Most parents who don't want to have a second child would certainly choose to have a girl. And taking into considaration that the specie needs both sexes, I don't know if knowing one gender it's "easier" than other would bring more disadvantages than benefits. Great article. And yes pictures helped a little bit :)
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@justtryme90 ·
When I read this article I was more thinking, its strange that the sex of the child (and even more strange that the sex of the first child) can have such an affect on the future health of the mother. Like its so weird that there are such consequences associated with the random chance of gender of the child. Its weird that there is such a difference, and it has been maintained by evolutionary processes.
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@egoectomy · (edited)
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Exactly, when I read the article I thought to myself: "haven't evolution with its natural selection processes made us to have offspring in a balanced manner between both sexes!?" I think that if it turns out to be undeniable that there is an imbalance and at the same time its discovered an easier way for parents to choose their baby’s sex, that will add to the discussion of whether human knowledge expansion might, sometimes, turn out to be counterproductive to ourselves! But that would be for another discussion…
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@clixmoney ·
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Very good post, I will have a son very soon, I hope my health will be better because I am trying to improve to show him the best of his father ☺
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@justtryme90 ·
>  I will have a son very soon, I hope my health will be better because I am trying to improve to show him the best of his father

Congratulations, I hope so too!
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@zawmyosat ·
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Very good post @justtryme90
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@justtryme90 ·
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. Have a great one!
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@ladyrebecca ·
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Having spent a great part of my journalistic career reporting on scientific studies I've learned to be skeptical of such studies. However, as a mother I do agree that raising a male child is more challenging. I don't know why - maybe it is easier for a mother to identify with a girl, as an earlier version of herself. Just a random thought. Or is it because there is only so much talking about a new video game a human being can take?! 
Anyway, I feel much better knowing that having only two children puts me in the lowest risk of cardiovascular events group.
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@justtryme90 ·
> I've learned to be skeptical of such studies.

Skepticism is a basic tenant of science and it is what drives us to further research into results that are surprising/unexpected. 

> Or is it because there is only so much talking about a new video game a human being can take?!

LOL Oh god yes. :D

> Anyway, I feel much better knowing that having only two children puts me in the lowest risk of cardiovascular events group.

That seems to be a pretty strong correlation, in this study and in others.
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@aara ·
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Nice  informative post
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@justtryme90 ·
Thank you for reading, glad you enjoyed it!
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@beautifulbullies ·
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I think from experience boys cause more damage to the mother's health when they reach teenage years! 😂😂
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@justtryme90 ·
I think my mother would agree with that one!
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😂😂😂
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@milsol ·
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I can't digest that hormones during pregnancy may be associated with women's mortality rate! Women who can not conceive because of various reasons are in a double loss position if their mortality rate increases because they don't have children.  Something that is totally out of their control!! Human physiology continues to be mystery! Great post.  Upvoted and resteemed :)
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@justtryme90 ·
> I can't digest that hormones during pregnancy may be associated with women's mortality rate!

Remember that was just a hypothesis put forth to explain the observations. It's not a definitive result. It would require significantly more study.

> Human physiology continues to be mystery!

Definitely a fascinating mystery!
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@milsol ·
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Understood  and thanks for the disclaimer on the hypothesis!
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@jaki01 · (edited)
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<p>
Interesting stuff.
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... it was observed that women who had either no children or had more than four children had higher mortality
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However these studies pertain to having a bunch of kids, having kids in general is still thought to increase lifespan (especially in that 1-3 child range). 
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Another possibility could be that healthier people with a stable social background and high education (who anyway have a longer lifespan) tend to have 1 to 3 children. The number of children may correlate with the length of the lifespan, but need not necessarily be the reason for it.
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Edit (addition):
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also some women with 0 children may have none because of some sicknesses (which reduce lifespan as well).
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Interesting explanations why boys could reduce the lifespan in comparison with girls: a) they may cause more stress or b) because of different hormone concentrations depending on the sex of the baby.
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Another hypothesis would be that mothers are more affected than fathers, because in average they still spend more time with their children than fathers, so that in case it is true that boys are causing more stress than girls mothers suffer more than fathers (in average).
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@justtryme90 ·
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> Another possibility could be that healthier people with a stable social background and high education (who anyway have a longer lifespan) tend to have 1 to 3 children. The number of children may correlate with the length of the lifespan, but need not necessarily be the reason for it. 
Edit (addition): 
also some women with 0 children may have none because of some sicknesses (which reduce lifespan as well).

Indeed, good points.

>Another hypothesis would be that mothers are more affected than fathers, because in average they still spend more time with their children than fathers, so that in case it is true that boys are causing more stress than girls mothers suffer more than fathers (in average).

This is true, but could be studied for what happens to stay at home dads. Do they end up with similar mortality rates to women? Or are they similar to non stay at home dads.
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@thepe ·
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Interesting results. I can easily imagine, that raising boys and girls may be variously difficult (at least at certain ages and perhaps for the mother or the father) but I had not thought that the mother's lifespan may be affected by the sex of her child. I hope, that fact doesn't result in higher abortion rates after knowing the sex of the child! :-)

P.S.: I think that there are little mistakes in the citation formatting of sources 6 and 7 in the text above.
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@justtryme90 ·
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Fixed thanks!
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@jaki01 ·
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I didn't dare to mention the latter! :-)
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@thepe ·
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Oh, sorry. I will be going to a corner and feel ashamed :-(
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@dber ·
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Aha! My sneaking suspicion that having a girl is better than having a boy is confirmed at last! I just didn't expect the reasoning to be a 2% reduction in the chance of cardiovascular death.
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Lol, thanks for reading @dber!
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@ahmedezzat ·
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Very good post
Followed , upvoted
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@justtryme90 ·
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Interesting read. I must say I was not very surprised by the finding that mothers had a greater risk of cardiac arrests with 4-5 sons than with 4-5 girls.

Just looking at my own experience being two boys growing up, and with a mum that would get nervous by anything(!), I feel like I can relate to it. I could easily call my dad and say "hi dad, you know what? Tomorrow I will be jumping out of an airplane in a parachute!" To which his first reply would be "That's awesome! But don't tell your mother until after you've done it, or she will freak out!" That difference in mentality seems likely to be the explanation. If it is true, as some evidence suggests, that [meditation can help reduce the risk of coronary heart disease](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4295748/), then being more calm about what your kids are up to could have a similar effect.

It's interesting though that it is only with 4 sons (or 3 in some cases according to Figure 1) that the mother's risk is greater than with 0 children. I guess if we were to then closely examine the boys of the parents in the sample. We could try and split them into two groups: Troublemakers and non-troublemakers, where troublemakers are defined based on measures such as # of fights he got into at school. Number of times he got into trouble with the police. Etc. Then we could get a measure of the percentage of boys that were troublemakers by that definition. As the mother's risk goes up with the number of boys, perhaps it only reflects the fact that she is then statistically more likely to have at least 1 son that is a troublemaker. So that it is not a biological effect, nor boys in general, but whether or not she has a son that is a troublemaker that makes her stay awake at night, or spend time worrying about him. It would be interesting to do such a split of the boys, and then run the analysis again where you control for whether there is a troublemaker among the children, to both observe it's effect on the parents health, but also if that then eliminates the negative effect of boys in general.

What do you think?
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@justtryme90 ·
I think that you are right and that would be interesting. Any sort of added experimentation that can help to eliminate more of a psychological, or biological component can better hone in on what results specifically in this effect in women. However that's a lot of extra information and very difficult to obtain for a study like this where the sample size was so big like this one. They would need to cross reference school records or something for the children of the participants.
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@cranium ·
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Thank you for your work. To me, young father, your article was very useful. I will pay more attention to my wife.
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@justtryme90 ·
>  I will pay more attention to my wife.

This will end up making you both happier :)
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@personz ·
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Very interesting! My only comment is that it's impossible to say for all women if the sex of a child affects their health, the only thing these studies can do is say that it might be _a predictor_ of future health, because it will be probabilistic.

Thanks for sharing 😊
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@justtryme90 · (edited)
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Well indeed, it's not a cause. It's just an association. Explaining where the association may come from is interesting though!
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@unspeakableme ·
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I'm leaning more towards the stress caused on the parents (mother specifically). Mothers tend to be more emotional and bonded with their kids due to hormones during and after pregnancy that makes it so the mother has the instinct to protect and nurture the offsprings. So I suppose they tend to worry over the children more which increases stress levels that could lead to several diseases not limited to heart issues. More children means more to worry about. I know my mother freaks out more than my dad when one of us gets sick. Gender wise, boys tend to be more of a handful than girls especially when they reach the age where they feel they need to assert themselves. Though, of course, there are exeptions to that. I don't suppose they took note of the children's age group and whether or not they're the naughty vs not? And the no kid, I was told before that women who don't give birth are prone to certain forms of cancer (not sure about that though).
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@justtryme90 ·
> could lead to several diseases not limited to heart issues.

They looked for a variety of other possible issues, and cardiac trouble was what stood out. I think assuming that its only stress induced is actually too simple of an explanation (life is ... always just so much more complicated).

> I don't suppose they took note of the children's age group and whether or not they're the naughty vs not? 

Not that I saw during my reads of the article.

> And the no kid, I was told before that women who don't give birth are prone to certain forms of cancer (not sure about that though).

Definitely breast cancer risk is higher for women who do not have children (or have children really late in life).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18045947
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@unspeakableme ·
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>I think assuming that its only stress induced is actually too simple of an explanation (life is ... always just so much more complicated).

Very true. It makes me wonder what *else* they can discover in this study.

>Definitely breast cancer risk is higher for women who do not have children (or have children really late in life).

Thanks for answering! I'm going to look at the link you gave me.
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@tking77798 ·
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Great post!  I love the term hazard ratio.
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@justtryme90 ·
Thanks, it's honestly a term I hadn't seen before which is why I felt it deserved an explanation.
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@cryptopie ·
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I believe giving birth itself affects the mother's health temporarily because the child inside takes nutrition from the mother.
My mother told me that her teeth got knocked out after giving birth to us her children. Possibly because we took calcium from her for our bones.
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@justtryme90 ·
> Possibly because we took calcium from her for our bones.

Yep, this is known to happen. It is one reason why expectant mothers are recommended to take calcium supplements now. The baby needs so much.
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@cryptopie ·
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An expectant mother needs to be in the proper guidance of a doctor, the doctor does a good job of making sure that both baby and mother will be healthy for the remainder of the pregnancy period. and after giving birth.
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@rocksg ·
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It is great discovery but does not seem the truth at all. Even some mothers having 6 to 8 children were healthy and lived very long life.
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@justtryme90 ·
You are making the mistake of looking at single data points. Everything in life falls on a distribution. In science we try to represent the average likely hood of something. This does not mean that something bad will happen to everyone that has a bunch of kids, only that the likely hood of something happening is higher for that group then for a different group. Beyond this, it's an association, not an indication of cause.

So while it may not *seem* like it *should* be true. The data indicates that it is. We don't have to like it, we just have to explain the data.
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@rocksg ·
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Ok, got your point buddy.
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@natashahall ·
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Agreed, definitely an unsettling concept that a child's gender could affect health. Interesting post :)
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