What To Do If You Get Pulled Over (while protecting yourself, exercising your rights, and without giving them anything at all) by kennyskitchen

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@sleepy-gary ·
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Are there any recent (1990+) court cases where the driver prevailed against the state? 

Law in this country is bullshit anymore, and it becomes whatever the holder of the gun tells you it is. What recourse do you have when the road pirate takes your life?
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@kennyskitchen ·
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I'm sure that there are, but after many, many hours of finding the court documents for the well-known cases, I have no interest in diving even deeper into the game of legalese. The fact is that this is based on the constitution, which hasn't changed (since it was replaced in 1871 at least), so court cases are simply to show examples of the fact that the rights are upheld.

If you want to dive deeper yourself, I'd recommend checking out Mark Stevens, Dean Clifford, and Kurtis Kallenbach, to get started.

You're totally right, if they're going to shoot you, they're going to shoot you. That's the thing about people with guns and psychological instability. This isn't a bulletproof vest, but I can tell you that I, personally, have used this knowledge (combined with a video camera & a calm demeanor) to interact with them before, and they've calmly driven away without ever getting my name or seeing a single document.
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@sleepy-gary · 
Right now, I am battling with severe Cognitive Dissonance, and I am trying to express myself without attacking you, so please don't take anything I might say as personally offensive, thats not what I am getting at:

I can't tell you the number of times I have read newspaper stories, or even on the internet, stories about people getting shot over situations like this. And the fact that police unions have been trained to believe that "sovereign citizens" [not saying you are or are not affiliated; I don't know] or people associated with them are "domestic terrists" and the fuse gets pretty short. 

Do you have any footage online? Have you ever consulted with a lawyer? 

I have been DYING to find more info about this, because I seem to recall an old (192X) ruling from the Supreme court stating that drivers did not have a legal requirement to have permission [read: "license"] to drive on highways or any other publicly funded roadway.
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@kennyskitchen ·
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Thanks @minnowsupport!
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@vibeof100monkeys · 
I have been looking into this in the UK. Very interesting I started with the TV licence which apparently you are supposed to pay. A simple "I revoke your right to implied access" sorts that one out.

Annoyingly I do have enough knowledge to stop the hideous extortion for the council tax. I'd will have to do a Volg on it. I had to or agree to pay so now i'm stuffed as the were threatening my with court for £118 then added anther £100 say the forgot to put it on the bill. Ahhhh breath. Reading up and these vermin will get their just deserves :)
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@kennyskitchen · 
Keep up the good work! Just keep pushing back, not interacting at all when possible, and digging deeper :-)
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@vibeof100monkeys · 
Unfortunately council tax have got my details see the Vlog coming up and I stuck. But anything else I working on it :)
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@emmalynnemiriam · 
@kennyskitchen This is actually some incredible function! Followed.
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@kennyskitchen ·
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Thank you Emma!
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@heymattsokol ·
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I guess my problem is that it always seems like a huge risk to act this way when the alternative is to basically play along without admitting guilt (I do love the idea of always responding "I do not understand" - that's awesome). But in the end, it's like,  the worse case here is to get a ticket and move on vs. if I resist, the worst case is being violently and brutally removed from my vehicle (or worse, killed).

I can see how the video / live stream aspect might help with that... but I dunno. Sometimes these things can sound a bit idealistic to me, if I am being honest, even though I respect and admire the intention.
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@kennyskitchen · (edited)
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When someone with a gun is running you off the road, the worst-case scenario is always that they'll kidnap or kill you... especially if you're the wrong color/religion for that area.

The only thing that matters (to me) is not participating in their games, not rolling over and being a slave to someone else, and standing up for what I believe in. I do not need to ask someone's permission to do anything that does not harm another.

In my experiences, the police have always politely walked away, without so much as a name, and usually give me their business card. To me, that means that not only am I defending myself, but I am getting through to them in some way, and maybe helping them wake up to the reality of the role they've taken on as Nazi Stormtroopers.
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@samstonehill · 
Great info my friend.  I enjoyed the read very much and look forward to putting it into action!

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@kennyskitchen · 
Thanks Sam! I greatly appreciate your support!
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@rebeccabe · (edited)
Been down that road, pun intended.  you are right.. sometimes easier to pay the ticket.  Also there are people that know and travel without a driver license.  When you obtain and  sign  a Driver License you agree to certain things.  If possible sign without prejudice.  A friend of mine says overstood instead of understood.  

Also if you decide to take the Corporate Security Guard's ticket and pay it.  Mail in a check and make it over the amount, when they send the refund do not cash it.  Someone had a post in here that if you don't cash it they cannot put points against your Driver License.  I have never tested this, however it does make sense. 
I could go on but this is enough.  Lol.  Enjoyed your post.  Be safe.
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@kennyskitchen ·
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I never give them anything, not even a name, and I would certainly never pay an extortion slip if they gave me one.

Good point about signing for a license, that is where they get most folks; just like the IRS when someone files taxes. If you sign a document voluntarily contracting with them, you've kind of shot yourself in the foot.
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@rebeccabe · 
The right to travel is one of the most important .. how else can we get anywhere?
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@stillwater · 
Very interesting.  So if you've played by their rules your whole life ie. taxes, Drivers L., Mortgages etc how the hell do you free yourself and not be a part of it?  For example this year just don't file your taxes?  I think men with guns would come to your house and kidnap you then cage you so to speak.  How do you not play?
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@endless.drugs · 
Road pirates are also on Chile, as Larsen Rose said "I HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY SEE THEM DOING ANYTHING BRAVE, THEY JUST WORK TO RECOVER MONEY TOWARDS THEIR POLITICAL MASTERS".
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@kennyskitchen · 
Yep, they're the same in most every place, doesn't matter which government they serve.
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Flags do not really mean anything...
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@stillwater · 
I have to say I really enjoyed this and am curious...............
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