<div class="text-justify"> There is no need to go into details as to why the idea was discussed. However, I think it's something worth considering, worth bringing up to the community. In truth, I've heard nothing but good things about Steemfest and I'm sure @roelandp has done a great deal of good for the strength of the community by holding these events. However, Why do we need to have only one meetup a year? And... Why could we not have one in America too? <center> <img src="http://www.coinfox.info/images/steemfest-str.jpg"> <a href="http://www.coinfox.info/images/steemfest-str.jpg">img src</a> </center> <h1>Steemit Inc's Involvement</h1> Of course we know that Steemfest is an event that is co-sponsored by Steemit Inc. The idea was born out of @roelandp's mind but the Steemit Inc's involvement has been very present at the events. To some, this is confusing, in the sense that it's not clear who is the organizer of Steemfest, but in truth the event has always been coordinated by @roelandp and Steemit Inc has been one of its sponsors. So technically, @roelandp could choose to exclude Steemit Inc from an event, and this should not be a reason why Steemfest could not happen. However, that would make little to no sense, given that most users of Steem, are users of Steemit. (for more information on the difference <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@lukestokes/steem-is-not-steemit-steem-is-more-valuable-than-steemit">here is a great explanation by Luke Stokes</a>) <h1>Have we even asked @ned?</h1> I'm obviously a small account by comparison, so I have no way of reaching him. But, is there a reason why we can't have two parties? Would he want to sponsor a second one in the new continent? (technically that's still true) - I don't know, but what I do know, is that if we don't ask the <b>NO</b> is guaranteed. Hence why, we can't really complain about him not being part of a hypothetical unasked for idea. Not to beat a dead horse but, aside from the fact that a ex-witness tried something a little on the shady side. I know of no one who has attempted to create a big meetup for Steem users aside from @roelandp. The truth is that the job of coordinating such an event is no small feat, and anyone who gives it a go has to be comfortable dealing with all the complexities of negotiations. So, its understandable that there is not a list of people waiting to make the plunge. But, if there is a Steemian with the knowledge and the drive to organize one. Why haven't we asked @ned? - I'm being 100% serious about this too. What is the risk on posing the question? Will I get flagged to oblivion for asking? Will my life end after he says he's not interested? Will my girl leave me for being a failure? - I see absolutely no risk whatsoever. <h1>Complaining is easy</h1> Hence why we do it so much. I'm guilty of it myself. I'm not in a financial situation conducive to making any trips at the moment so I won't be visiting SteemFest this year. But, my immediate reaction should not be to point out all the reasons why traveling to Europe is terrible, why I hate the snow, why we chose Poland of all places. It would probably be a lot more productive of me to wonder if there is a way we can do something on this side of the globe as well. My dear friend @luzcypher shared with me some pictures of Mexico. I for one can't think of a nicer place to hold a Steem get together on a big scale. The prices are affordable, most people love the beach (there are some weirdos out there), and we would have some local experts to guide us through the process. (@luzcypher has been living down there for more than a decade, and he is not the only steemian) <center> <img src="https://www.blueseaholidays.co.uk/own-files/d13/dbb4aa0e8da633759ef0a969f59a1/Lyoc3sPrOK.jpg"> </center> So, maybe we should be having that talk. Maybe there is someone who is willing to make that a reality if the community can secure support from @ned and Steemit Inc. I'm not an event planner by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm sure there are at this point many capable Steemians that could pull this off if they wanted to. <h1>Conclusion</h1> The point I'm trying to make is that SteemFest does not have to be the only event, the only reason why Steemians meet and bond. No doubt it will always have a special place in people's mind, because it was the first of its kind. But, it doesn't mean it has to stand on its own. As far as I know, there are always meetups happening between Steemians. I even participated of one not that long ago with my Minnow Support Group family. It was great, it was special. Finding a way to scale that up is not impossible, it just requires commitment. Less complaining, more doing. </div> But first... Let's ask @ned, let's not assume the NO and be upset about it... https://steemitimages.com/DQmW2fijoxrybX3Kg83HCgZZmZwF8SujXWvr3tn8YCUPCsw/meno%20logo.png <center> <h5>Other posts by yours truly</h5> <a href="/steemfest/@meno/has-anyone-even-asked-ned-steemian-festivals-steemfest-3-dilema"><sub>• Has anyone even asked Ned? - Steemian Festivals - SteemFest 3 Dilema</sub></a><br><a href="/steem/@meno/random-thoughts-on-the-futile-quest-of-spammy-comments"><sub>• Random thoughts on the futile quest of spammy comments</sub></a><br><a href="/steem/@meno/steem-abuse-finding-patient-0"><sub>• Steem Abuse - Finding Patient 0</sub></a><br><a href="/steem/@meno/snyq59zn"><sub>• Another way to look at it - HODLing assistance series</sub></a><br><a href="/steem/@meno/lkpmra8i"><sub>• The Advantage of Steem - HODLing Assistance Series </sub></a><br> </center>
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Also we need to ask- what is the best use of resources , a) A fest excluvively for people who are already on the STEEM train b) A hybrid fest where we open it up to normies for any given country to learn and explore about STEEM... you know...marketing ish !!
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Very true, I say the latter... and I'm sure I'm in the majority.
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get some sign upss..get some real time reactions/feedback... Live stream it... Don't need to do the normie talk for whole 3 days..maybe do it for first day. https://media.giphy.com/media/3orif4WltnzhYcsnHq/giphy.gif
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I'd say B too. But I think that will grow more and more for example with more outward going product features like SMT being released. With that the Steem chain will also morph btw.
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Anyone can organise an event around Steem. If they do a good job then there's a chance Steemit Inc will get involved. I've been to a few small meetups organised by users. I was going to the Steem Camp in Germany, but now I know Steemfest is in Europe that takes priority. I probably wouldn't go if it was in the US, but I think you need something on that side of the Atlantic.
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Hence why I think having two big events per year would be ninja. Those who can will do both, but having the choices would be perfect for most.
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Soon there will be enough users to have big events all around the world without people having to travel far. We just need organisers. The second biggest meetup I've been to was at the London Crypto Show. People just turned up there, including Roeland and others from abroad.
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Mexico has my vote.
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the beach right? that's all one has to say... Beach.
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Yeah, I don't think roeland is a warm weather/ beach person. ![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbdBMbMSXrDnFVRghfqkXXLHkgUY4a3ruc7QZ8qqpRmP5/image.png)
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Hi Meno. My understanding is to travel the globe holding one meet up a year .If you have more than one people will choose the one that suits them and it will dilute the whole experience. I see it as only fair spreading it around different countries the way it is being done currently. If they held it in the states all the time it would limit members who couldn't afford it who lived in Europe. I can't afford to go this year but hope to be in a position next time around.
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I hear you.. i think we may have enough peeps for 2 atm though... Maybe I'm wrong. But hey, the intention is good. No way i could make it out this year either... unless something crazy happens, its quite impossible atm
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I didn't realize that all the festivals have been in Europe so far and they need to change that. The States needs to surely get the next one at least. It is all about new users and growth so surely it has to be next.
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My vision would be simultaneous SteemFests in every continent - all linked up by technology. Many more people could then participate, at much lower costs. And the impacts on the environment would be much less (less flights etc) Steemit Inc could maybe dispatch 3 or 4 people to each event. And it could be a super PR hit for steem if we could be the first blockchain to hold such a pan-global event all linked up by the very latest technology. Count me in to help organise if anyone likes this sort of idea... *** *Host of [**The Alternative Lifestyle Show**](https://steemit.com/mspwaves/@pennsif/the-alternative-lifestyle-show-friday-20-july-guests-surfermarly-woman-onthe-wing-jackdub-makinstuff-and-sir-thrive) on [**MSP Waves Radio**.](http://mspwaves.com/)* *Editor of the [**Weekly Schedule of Steem Radio Shows**.](https://steemit.com/mspwaves/@pennsif/steemradio-schedule-of-all-the-steem-radio-shows-week-beginning-16-july-2018)* *Founder of the **[ A Dollar A Day](https://steemit.com/adollaraday/@adollaraday/a-dollar-a-day-charitable-giving-project-update-june-2018-summary-of-donations-received-and-given-out)** charitable giving project.* ***
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That's a wild idea Pennsif... I freaking love it!! No doubt we are headed that way...
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There is still time to do it this year - maybe on a smaller for the other continents (outside of Europe) for the first try. We would just need a few people in each continent to get the ball rolling locally, a small coordinating group and a team of tech advisors. Maybe this would be a super job to put the Steem Ambassadors on the map (I'm one of them). And some funding of course... but maybe @Fundition and @Utopian-io might be able to help on this front, until Steemit Inc comes on board. If anyone is up for it I can start to make the connections...
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Good idea. No one wants to admit that you absolute don't need to all be in the same place in the 21st century. What the hell is the point of all this communications technology if we don't use it? And it's seriously shortsighted to want to force everyone to take a plane trip around the world, what's the tipping point where the emissions savings from "not being on a POW chain" are negated by everyone being so ready to jump on a plane? Also, the areas of the world where we'll probably see some of the most tremendous growth are the same areas where the average user is least able to afford such trips in the first place. It reeks of privilege and of an ignorance towards knowing what to do with any modicum of success found on the platform.
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For Steemfest you can also join the livestreams from home for sure, so I hope I'm not forcing anyone to come. You have a good point about the travelling part. So I also like @pensiff's idea of linking up several 'train-ride-away' locations vs. having to fly. Flying is next to our global logistics backbone of ships burning crude oil the single most polluting behaviour of human mankind. I think with the evolving Virtual Reality it won't be long we will start to see around the world drinkers and social / network events where you literally mix virtual and real together. Would definitely be the next leap forward for especially conferences and such. Beginnings are there, with online-conferences, but then you miss out on most of the social interactions which also account for a great part of the "worth" of the event.
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BTW what I find really inspiring is all the stuff happening in Africa (talking about parts with tremendous growth). There are so many steem related initiatives happening, a couple of events like Steem Camp and SIN.
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What do you mean with *America*? South, Central, North?!?! Big hug **Steemitri The International Mannequin**
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It could be any of them, it really could... but I'm thinking Cancun. That's where my mind goes... look at those beaches. just beautiful.
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Yeah... I think it's a great idea to have *more* Steemfests... and Mexico would be a nice choice. ... and yes, it's not that easy to organize such a big event. Hugs
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While I was listening I was trying to understand the intent of the complaints because the conversation was close to ridiculous I'm not sure I am correct. These are some of the issues that stood out to me: Some are concerned that holding 3 Steemfests in Europe is inconvenient for much of our user base, and Europe isn't even where most of our userbase resides. rolandp's clear response was this has to do with the overall budget of the event and being able to spend less for more in Poland than the US. That point somehow morphed into: if they are all going to be held in Europe, maybe the location should remain the same, in an attempt to standardize the event. Amsterdam was suggested because it is a desirable destination with an Airport serving more cities via direct flights. From here the conversation went to who is funding Steemfest and whether or not the community should have any say in the matter. I've never gotten the impression that SteemIt Inc feels they owe us any explanation of what they do with their stake. I gathered that rolandp was stating he has organized the event on his own and SteemIt, Inc has decided to help fund it and if people were unhappy with the location or venue they could feel free to create their own event and lobby SteemIt, Inc for funds. (This is my impression of the response and does not necessarily represent rolandp. I understand people are disappointed in the location and some even question the funding. I think it is a compliment to rolandp and the event that people felt so strongly about the situation. Yet, I have zero desire to see Poland in the Winter nor am I willing to spend the time and funds it would take to get there. In my opinion I would give both sides a point on this level. I don't have any expectations of SteemIt, Inc justifying their budget to the community, so I don't hold any position on that level. In summary, I agree with what you are saying, someone should consider planning another event and ask @ned if SteemIt, Inc would like to participate. lol, thanks for adding some sanity to the conversation.
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I'm told I heard nothing compared to what was discussed.... and maybe I should be grateful. But honestly, my intention was, and still is to help people understand we are all in this together. Maybe on that common goal we can build something good, thats it. I won't be going either, but its more a financial thing for us. I would not mind seeing Europe for the first time.
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To be clear I am not a huge fan of conferences and although I am very happy it happens, I likely would attend unless it was somewhere amazing or really close. Yes, we are in it together. Pretty frightening if you had heard the first part of the conversation. lol.
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Thanks whatsup I totally agree in your summary, it leaves out many of the hatespeech thrown at me :P - getting that on some typed comment is one thing, but having that shouted in your face another :P. I elaborate a bit myself about those "strong feelings" you mention in a paragraph elsewhere in my longer response on this post from meno. Afaik Steemit inc sponsors multiple events and I think that is what most of the blockchains do. They sponsor not only monetarily but also by having people at those events present. Only this week already I saw several posts from Steemit employees being or going to events (both in the US actually :P). So yes I did reach out to Steemit inc, you can see this in my original announcement for SF1 where I paste my reachout email. (linking to busy, because the formatting due to < code > < / code > tags is a bit weird on Steemit.com for this one: https://busy.org/@roelandp/save-the-date-steemfest-1-11-12-13-november-2016-amsterdam-nl Btw. just to be factual: Winter starts in Poland on 21st of December. So with the start of SteemFest 3 - on 7 November we are exactly 45 days (or at 50%) of autumn in the Northern Hemisphere!
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lol. @rolandp I stand corrected on the dates of Winter. :) I wish you great success with SteemFest. Yes, I cleaned up the summary. :)
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thanks for the information....................keep it up bro
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sʞuɐɥʇ ˙ʎɐs oʇ ǝldoǝd ɹoɟ pooƃ sᴉ ƃuᴉʞuɐɥʇ ǝsnɐɔǝq sʞuɐɥʇ ƃuᴉʎɐs ǝldoǝd ʞuɐɥʇ oʇ ǝɯosǝʍɐ ʎʇʇǝɹd sʇᴉ ʞuᴉɥʇ ᴉ ˙ǝɔɐld ʇsɹᴉɟ ǝɥʇ uᴉ ɹoɟ ʞuɐɥʇ ǝq oʇ uosɐǝɹ ou pɐɥ ʇɐɥʇ uoᴉʇɐɯɹoɟuᴉ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ǝɯ ʞuɐɥʇ noʎ ɹoɟ sʞuɐɥʇ
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I'd be down. Sign me up. PS - I have pretty much assumed that you are now planning the North American steemfest. Good luck! PPS - I will help you if we get some funding.
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>PS - I have pretty much assumed that you are now planning the North American steemfest. Good luck! >PPS - I will help you if we get some funding. You know, I can think of someone that could pull this off... but i would not to assume she would want to.
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I have planned some pretty big events in my day... but this one would be the biggest by far.
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Lol. @meno: Steemit blogger, msp waves dude, and events organiser.
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i am just waiting for the dates. that beach in mexico will be soooo crowded
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Hey Meno, Thanks for your post and thoughts. In the discussion on the voicechat I was a bit overwhelmed, not only because it was midnight, but also by unreasoning and blatant lies and untruths being thrown in my face, by some participant(s). It really felt like a personal attack on many levels, without me having the chance of being able to respond to one thing, before getting another issue being thrown at me. I want to thank you for coming in the storm and cooling it down and going back to the facts, like you are also doing here. #LetsAdult, that is a good hashtag indeed. I would say the more the merrier events. And btw I think there are already quite a bunch of Steem events out there. I initiated SteemFest 2 years ago and I explain how it came about here: https://steemit.com/steemfest/@roelandp/save-the-date-steemfest-1-11-12-13-november-2016-amsterdam-nl In which I even paste my email to Ned & Dan (by that time still onboard) about it. The idea is to bring as many of the community together. It is really something to see that one person from 10,000 kms away and spend a couple of days with them. And yes, local meetups are great too, but this one is then more globally oriented. At last years edition, people from every contintent flocked together in Lisbon, in total 38 countries or 39 even. Another part of the concept of SteemFest is: have it moving around, and have the conference itself also move around in the city it lands on: Having a conference is ok, but then you travel all the way to this city you have never been to and then you are locked up in a hotel for 3 days for the conf and then go back to the airport to fly back home. What fun is that? I like to offer the combination of the joy of travelling to a place with the joy of meeting people. This is why I try to have as many venues as logistically and logically possible in the event. IMHO that keeps the whole thing fresh day by day and entertaining, and gives a bit of that travel feel into the o-so-often static conference event type. If there was such a thing as a SF Cookbook, that should definitely be in it. For SteemFest I've thought about picking up the pace to 6-8 months or something but in the end withdrawn that idea, because it would mean people would have to pick "which one to go to" and hence divide the community, which I would rather not with this event. Part of the success of the event I think is that it doesn't occur every other day and you really live up to it. But that doesn't mean their can't be more events like SteemFest. I mean there is also a Lollapalooza and a Coachella and a Burning Man, all unique by their own identity, name (!) and organisation behind it. So yeah, maybe there might be a "first mover advantage" that people now got drawn to SteemFest, but obviously there is no lock-in, and should the past events have been absolute crap, I'd say no-one would ever consider going to another one either. I like to organise events, I've done so in the past for a fulltime job at TodaysArt.org and parttime several local hackathons and with everyone I give my heart and soul to it. I work by the mantra "the devil is in the details" and am a true perfectionist. Having said that, everyone is free to organise events, right? And everyone is free to find sponsors. I just don't like it if the name SteemFest would be used, because I would like to keep that name for this "Steem Olympic" as someone called it in the voice chat. By this I don't mean to say that there can't be multiple "Olympic"-quality Steem events co-existing, just that they don't blatantly take the name SteemFest and stick it on their event. It would dilute the meaning of the event. It would be the same as: "Oh wow so many people like this drink, let's make a drink ourselves and call it the same". Using the name would mean abusing the efforts done by me and all people helping. I think that would be unfair. Leaves me to say that I am still quite caught by surprise, that an idea that popped up when doing the dishes in this house-sitting house here near the beach (where I am at this summer again), gained so much popularity that it makes so many people have so many opinions about it. And not all positive. That is completely new to me and forces me too behave differently in responding to those. I simply can't make everyone happy, but I will continue to try my best with all my dedication. Some great Steem events are coming up btw: - SteemCreators & SMT Summit, USA / Can (?) - SteemStem / Utopian, Italy - SteemCamp, Germany - SIN, Nigeria -<a href="https://steemfest.com" target="_blank">SteemFest</a>, Poland! Thank you, Roeland
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Oh wow, this is awesome... I'm going to look into these. Maybe one of these is near enough for a drive. I responded to you on a dm, so I won't repeat it here. But, I'm glad the conversation is moving forward, bitterness aside.
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Hey @roelandp, even though I don't want to go to Northern Europe in winter please don't think that I was personally attacking you with my "winter is shit" comment. I just hate winter and I say "winter is shit ALL the time. It's why I live I live in the tropics so I can have 30C every day. But having been involved in helping organise big events in the past, I know how much effort goes into an event such as this and people should be grateful that you took up the challenge and are keeping it going. Obviously you can't please everyone even though it seems people some expect you to. So getting verbally attacked over it is bullshit. Sorry that happened to you, it's rubbish. That said, Mexico would be awesome and I would totally go if you put on an event there. 😎👍
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thanks! i wasnt feeling attacked by that! mexico sounds like a great solution once too or somewhere else with nice summary feel. to me it was only about the “again” part, which i felt was untrue seeing the weather in Lisbon last year was climate-change-crazy warm!
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Are you familiar with Steem Creators Conference (@steemcreators)? It's currently focusing on North America. First conference was held in April in Las Vegas, and a second conference is being held in September in Toronto, with a third already tentatively scheduled for next April in Austin, Texas (home of Steemit). No success yet in getting Ned to show up, but dlive and dtube will be represented in Toronto.
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Well that is one to shoot for no doubt. Somehow it slipped my mind, but now as I read about it, I'm remembering dlive's announcement of the event. I will probably shoot for next year as my finances are unfavorable for any trip planning. But I would love to participate of one.
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category | steemfest |
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