My flagged posts by michelle.gent

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· @michelle.gent ·
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My flagged posts
**My posts that have been flagged**

What were these posts flagged for? They earned too much and @transisto didn't think I deserve the payout.

One excuse for the flagging is that I'm taking pieces of my writing (novels) and pasting them onto Steemit.com with little or no effort. Obviously, the words just flop out of my head, straight onto the page ready for me to cut and paste them onto Steemit with ***NO*** effort whatsoever...

But this first post wasn't a serialised Blog. It was something I've actually done, an achievement - I mean, how many Steemit users can say they had a hand in designing and erecting (not to mention finding the funding for) a war memorial?

I bet there's me and @s0u1 that can say that. Not bad out of *ALL* the people on this platform - a ***UNIQUE** blog post wouldn't you say? Worth reading about? Worth an upvote?

Apparently not, according to @transisto

[Remembrance Day](https://steemit.com/remembrance/@michelle.gent/remembrance-day)
Unique and original content shared exclusively on Steemit - written about how I was involved with having a war memorial designed and erected in my town. Not serialised, all my own pictures and yet targeted by one whale because it was earning too much for his liking.

[Serialised Story](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/writing-fiction-a-novel-exclusive-for-steemit-diamonds-and-deviants-25)
I'm writing this exclusively to Steemit (or at least, I *was*) and this content is to be found NOWHERE else on or off line and it was flagged for earning too much...

[Serialised Story](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/building-up-to-christmas-with-dusty-the-demon-hunter-a-blast-from-the-past-post-5)
Around 1500 words, all re-read and re-edited for Steemit and shared for free to Steemit readers whereas it's for sale everywhere else.
Flagged for earning too much...

[Blood on the Moon - my third novel serialised](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/blood-on-the-moon-serialised-exclusive-for-steemit-51)
Re-edited and re-worked from the original. Not available anywhere else unless you buy the novel. Flagged for earning too much.

[Serialised Story](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/writing-fiction-a-novel-exclusive-for-steemit-diamonds-and-deviants-26)
Around 1500 words, all re-read and re-edited for Steemit and shared for free to Steemit readers whereas it's for sale everywhere else.
Flagged for earning too much...

[Blood on the Moon - my third novel, serialised](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/blood-on-the-moon-serialised-exclusive-for-steemit-52)
Re-edited and re-worked from the original. Not available anywhere else unless you buy the novel. Flagged for earning too much.

[Serialised Story](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/building-up-to-christmas-with-dusty-the-demon-hunter-a-blast-from-the-past-post-6-final-part)
Around 1500 words, all re-read and re-edited for Steemit and shared for free to Steemit readers whereas it's for sale everywhere else.
Flagged for earning too much...

[Blood on the Moon - my third novel, serialised](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/blood-on-the-moon-serialised-exclusive-for-steemit-53)
Re-edited and re-worked from the original. Not available anywhere else unless you buy the novel. Flagged for earning too much.

[Serialised Story](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/building-up-to-christmas-with-dusty-the-demon-hunter-a-blast-from-the-past-flights-of-fantasy-part-1)
Around 1500 words, all re-read and re-edited for Steemit and shared for free to Steemit readers whereas it's for sale everywhere else.
Flagged for earning too much...

[Serialised Story](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/building-up-to-christmas-with-dusty-the-demon-hunter-a-blast-from-the-past-flights-of-fantasy-part-2)
Around 1500 words, all re-read and re-edited for Steemit and shared for free to Steemit readers whereas it's for sale everywhere else.
Flagged for earning too much...

[Serialised Story Written *FOR* Steemit](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/daughters-of-le-fey-part-33)
Available NOWHERE else and written straight onto Steemit. Flagged because it made too much.

This is another post that was NOT serialised. I *WONDER* why this one got flagged?

[And then there's this one...](https://steemit.com/writing/@michelle.gent/not-posting-exclusive-excerpts-of-my-writing)
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@ehabakhdar ·
I can understand your point, could you imagine i got flagged on a comment with good nice words.
upvoted and you deserve.
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@lordoftruth ·
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Sad to hear this!!
You are one of my favourite writers..
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@michelle.gent ·
Thank you, that's very kind of you.
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@ansarikamran ·
steamcleaner is a shit of steemit this bot flaged post without any reason 
this bot flaged my orignal post and said this is copy paste c my blog its down now  :(
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@michelle.gent ·
I wasn't flagged by a bot. I was flagged by a person with a lot of voting power.
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@ansarikamran ·
tell me that guy id i have more then 200 whatsapp member we will break his ass
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@johnwjr7 ·
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I sure hope that it all gets straightened out.  We have a good thing going with Steemit and I'd hate for something to interrupt it.
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@rebeccabe · (edited)
@johnwjr7 I just visited you since you are so positive.  Your post made me laugh and I commented on it. 
I too hope everything gets straightened out.  We'll have to wait and see.
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@johnwjr7 ·
I saw that.  It was my UFO post.  I hope to have some more of those short ones tomorrow.  It's almost midnight here in the Philippines.
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@michelle.gent ·
I'm sure it'll blow over :)
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@shubrodyuti ·
so sad for this..😭😭😭😭
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@cyclingalone ·
Good nice lines!! But sad to hear!!
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@fitinfun ·
This is absolutely horrifying. I'm so sorry, Michelle. 

- posts making too much money? BAD and FLAGGED
- author serializing her own work? BAD and FLAGGED

I could not feel worse if it was happening to me.

At the same time - I'm following two other posts from other steemers also being flagged for content the big guys don't like. All this week.

Finally the whales come out to make an impression on the minnows. 

Instead of upvoting, interacting, and improving things - no - we get more turmoil and more bad feelings in this nuthouse.
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@michelle.gent ·
It's a shame I've ended up on the wrong side of a few whales for standing my ground and protesting about flags on good work.
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@fitinfun ·
Hang in there - I have been so impressed with your work even though we are in completely different areas. I bookmarked your "how I write" series. This really hits home to me as a fellow (not as successful)  author.
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@uwelang ·
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Hang on - honestly - I like what @michelle.gent is writing but that is not the topic of this discussion, if someone feels to flag it this is all allowed - I dealt with flags a lot - I do not understand what all these discussions are about. No matter if I agree what @transisto is doing - he has the right to do it - i had arguments with him too already and got flag where i was in disagreement. But that is the system and in that case I trust the system. He is an investor - different view as a content creator - it will all be balanced but I do not understand why someone posts 7 articles about the topic.
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@fitinfun ·
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Hmm... Ok - I see that point. I need to just crawl back in my minnow hole :)

At least I know to never engage that particular person for any reason.
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@valued-customer ·
I reckon the flaggots would change their tunes quickly if their ROIs were so impacted by flags.

That's why Steemit is an oligarchy, and why it won't succeed in the long term, unless that changes.  There are other forks, UIs, and similar platforms coming online, and either Steemit gets out in front of the desires of common folks, who aren't deeply pocketed, or their investments in Steem will reflect their conceit, arrogance, and self-absorption.

We will have nominal and uncensored platforms that allow <i>all</i> to speak freely, in time.  If Steemit doesn't become such a platform, it will be neglected by users accordingly.

It is no fluke or coincidence that overall retention of users, including bots, is at ~20%, and of all the accounts opened in 2016, but ~11% are still active.  This is perhaps the worst retention rate in the industry, of extant social media platforms.

Competition is coming.  Invest accordingly.  Either grow Steemit, and enjoy the massive appreciation in the value of Steem that will engender, or watch it die, along with your investment in it.

Unlike most folks, I'm not here for rewards.  I'm here for a censorship free platform that provides rewards, because that's what the market - and I - demand.  I've never touched a satoshi of Steem, and have no plans to do so.

This relieves me of fear of flaggots, since I don't care about rewards.  

Liberating.  However, I do care about <i>other's</i> rewards, since that's why they're here, and I want them here.

Quit flagging good content, dolts!  I agree with you @fitinfun
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@silviabeneforti ·
so sorry to read it :( You're one of my favorite writers here and this is a really sad thing :(
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@michelle.gent ·
Thank you <3
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@rebeccabe · (edited)
@michelle.gent Why not teach us writing and for your example use a fictional character that is in trouble.  Anyway it brought to mind the @hardfork people .. here is a post from last month about the over watchers from @hardfork-series   https://steemit.com/story/@hardfork-series/cfs-exposing-the-overwatchers   
There are more recent posts .. everyone should check them out a pretty cool concept, as you may already know they are making a movie.

See if as a writer you can write your way out of this as a challenge.
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@michelle.gent ·
I do know they're making a movie - it's a fabulous concept and I'm excited to see it all unfold here on Steemit.com.

I'll have a think about teaching writing. It's not something I've ever done and I'm not sure how... but I'll take a look and see if I can figure it out.

Thank you :)
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@rebeccabe ·
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Just don't want to see you get too hung up on this.  Your talent is wasting when you could do a story about it.
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@mariska.lubis · (edited)
$0.05
I just don't get it, while Steemit is appreciate originality and high quality content which lead to get the rewards that hopefully at least equal to the efforts. So, what is wrong with a lot of rewards? What they did to you is totally opposite to the Steemit vision and missions itself.
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@valued-customer ·
Because these investors are intent on garnering those rewards themselves.  Seeing content creators achieving greater rewards than their manipulations of the rewards pool causes them to flag that content, so they can maximize their ROI.

You are correct, it is financial manipulation, and it is an existential threat to Steemit - as stated in the white paper.
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@nokodemion ·
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@ats-david · (edited)
$32.09
I'm not sure why you're spending so much time on this downvoting issue. To put things into perspective:

You're in the top 100 in posting rewards out of all accounts on the Steem blockchain. https://steemwhales.com/?p=4&s=pr

You're the number 5 most rewarded author over the past 30 days. https://steemwhales.com/trending/?d=30

You currently have $670+ in pending payouts just for the next 7 days. https://steemnow.com/

But you've now written *seven* posts in a row about being downvoted by another user. Not downvoted to $0 in potential payouts, but downvoted to **_$30 - $50_** in potential payouts...for chapters of novels that you had apparently already published in the past. 

I get that being downvoted isn't fun, trust me. What I don't get is why you need to make seven posts about it and act like you're being victimized because you'll *only* earn almost $700 so far in the next week.

The votes "from one person" in each direction look like this:

Voter | Rshares | Percentage
--- | --- | ---
blocktrades | 20,766,674,162,708 | 82%
transisto | -10,937,759,594,395 | -100%

<br/>

I would say that you're benefiting a *lot* more from one person's upvote than the other's downvote, but you're complaining that one investor's vote is perfectly legitimate and the other's is not. They are both invested. They are both voting with their stake as they see fit. And you're still coming out of it all with more potential rewards than you would be if *neither* of them voted on your posts. 

My question to you would be this: **Do you think that these complaint posts about one user downvoting some of your content are adding more value to the platform?** I noticed that you haven't declined any payouts, if they were just PSAs trying to get the word out.
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@o1o1o1o ·
Excuse my ignorance but I thought downvotes by a user with a lower reputation than you had no impact. Not sure where I read or heard that but that was my impression. You clearly seem to know how the DV stuff works - can you point me in the right direction to find enlightenment on this topic?
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@schattenjaeger ·
$0.06
Downvotes from users with a lower rep than you have no impact on your rep, but they still affect payouts.
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@michelle.gent ·
Yes, you're completely right. I *DO* get a lot from this and I appreciate it all.

It's an absolute dream come true to be able to make money from my writing. That's why I tell everyone I know that is into writing and creating that this platform is the one they should be on.

I do understand and appreciate the fact that investors have the right to downvote whoever they want for whatever reason they want.

I *was* under the impression that if I behave nice and follow the guidelines - both written and unwritten - if I provide good, original and unique content, if I share it exclusively for Steemit.com and generally toe the line, and I *try* not to be too controversial, that I wouldn't get flagged. 

I get it. Collateral damage. The trouble is, when people see what can happen to someone that *just got in the crossfire,* it gets harder to attract other *cannon fodder* content providers to the platform.

If my posts of complaint make people aware that this is happening and something gets sorted out about it, would you say those posts served the community or not?

If this comes to an amicable conclusion and people realise the flagging wars are doing nothing to help promote this platform in any kind of positive way, would you say that would be deemed as a success?

If so then I'll be happy. 

I want this platform to succeed. I really would have liked to have more than 15 months on the platform in which to develop my writing and post more stories, write more books to share on here and generally enjoy my chosen 'career' but it looks like I've got the attention of some whales for entirely the wrong reason.

That's a shame because I really do write good stories - even if it's only me that thinks so (it's not, by the way - a lot of people have enjoyed my writing).

So, here's to getting this all sorted so this kind of thing doesn't happen again.

By the way, do you have any reason *why* I shouldn't be in the top 100 in posting rewards? Or the top earners for the past 30 days? 

How about where that standing is for the past 15 months?

Because if you spread it out over that time, I've earned $400 per week - not bad, but not really a great incentive to attract other quality authors, especially if this kind of thing *could* happen.
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@theaustrianguy ·
> By the way, do you have any reason why I shouldn't be in the top 100 in posting rewards? Or the top earners for the past 30 days?

As far as I can see, he is not saying you shouldn't be in there ;)
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@ats-david ·
$15.60
>If my posts of complaint make people aware that this is happening and something gets sorted out about it, would you say those posts served the community or not?

What is it that needs to be "sorted out?" One stakeholder decided to upvote your posts. Another stakeholder decided to downvote your posts. That's how the system works. With both votes applied, you're still coming out pretty far ahead.

>If this comes to an amicable conclusion and people realise the flagging wars are doing nothing to help promote this platform in any kind of positive way, would you say that would be deemed as a success?

What need is there for an "amicable conclusion?" It's two investors using their stake as they see fit. One wants to allocate rewards, the other wants to limit the allocation. There is nothing that is *not* amicable about this. It doesn't factor into it at all, actually. 

And this isn't a "flagging war." This is how the platform was always meant to be used. I think the idea that downvotes are something to fear and are inherently unfair is what does more damage than stakeholders actually using those downvotes. Writing post after post about it - as has been happening since last year on this platform - simply perpetuates the false notion that downvotes are inherently wrong and are somehow ruining the platform. They aren't. They're a necessary function for the designed system to work properly. 

>By the way, do you have any reason why I shouldn't be in the top 100 in posting rewards? Or the top earners for the past 30 days?

Nope. And my opinion on your writing or your rankings have nothing to do with it. I was simply pointing out that you're not being victimized by one user who happens to disagree with some of your rewards...unless, of course, the rest of the platform is also being victimized by one user allocating those rewards to your posts in the first place.
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@schattenjaeger ·
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>I do understand and appreciate the fact that investors have the right to downvote whoever they want for whatever reason they want.

No, you don't.
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@uwelang ·
$1.31
I agree with @ats-david on that one - even I lose some friends here on the platform but these ongoing whining and postings on a very high level because of some flags is bullshit.
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@shadowspub ·
well @michelle.gent I can say that I had a hand in refurbishing and redesigning the setting of our local WW1 and WW2/Korea cenotaphs in the town square. 

It's bad enough he's downvoting your fiction work but your other work, especially the Remembrance one. Just over a year ago I received my one and only vote from @ned on a post about a community service Christmas program I run. That vote gave me a nice boost on the post. 

If @transisto wants the platform run in his image.. maybe he should go build one. Not try to chase away people who are contributing in a positive manner. Stick around, we need the good folk like you.
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@michelle.gent ·
$0.03
That's three people on the platform then ;) Well done and I actually should have realised you'd be doing something along those lines from when we used to chat so much :)

I'm sticking around :)

Thank you :)
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@shadowspub ·
good to hear that you are sticking around. not good that you wont be posting with the same level of comfort....

I know, you forgot about me already eh :)
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@o1o1o1o ·
I feel like he'd make much more impact by just upvoting content he likes. Rules about reward vs. views are better enforced evenly and fairly in the platform.  I mean if someone doesn't like that a small number of views could result in a substantial payout then maybe he is actually questioning the whole ethos of vote impact relative to a voter's STEEM. 

Maybe whales should not be able to upvote 100% and the more power they have the less the maximum upvote? That would encourage them to do more voting and spread it around (to be honest I don't know what the voting patterns of whales are, maybe they already do this).  The same should apply to downvotes too - why should a few elite yield so much power perhaps because they just invested a big pile of $ into the platform or got lucky early on. It just doesn't seem very egalitarian to me, much more authoritarian and as such I think it is fine for someone to post as much as they want about a perceived abuse of power.
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@fitinfun ·
$0.05
@jerrybanfield wrote a post a few months ago about voting patterns. It was horrifying and made some of the whales publicly change their voting after that. 

This was when I decided to ignore the whales and focus on the minnows and bigger but still-small fish. There are less than 100 whales I think, and they are all up in each others business. There are about 5000 active people total - not including bots. It's unknown if you can survive here without whales, but I will do my best. 

I have several friends actively "sucking up to whales" as their way to succeed here. They are all doing much better than me so I'm obviously not worth paying attention to.
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@valued-customer ·
$1.11
Regarding whale votes, they vote differently according the the stake of the votee, generally.  If they are voting for a whale, they vote with more than 50% of their stake weight, but if voting for minnows, they vote at 1% or so.

Again, oligarchy rules.  

It is for this reason, amongst many others, that I find @transisto's claimed reason for flagging here incredible, as in not credible.  If he really wanted to 'share the wealth' and decrease the sucking sound we hear as the rewards pool is drained, he'd be flagging whales.

Does he?  NO!  That would endanger his precious ROI; his sacred stake.

Money =/= mouth.
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@valued-customer ·
$0.04
Also, most of the Steem that exists was mined, not purchased, or earned as rewards.  IIRC, this is where @transisto's stake came from.

As you say, he got lucky early on, by discovering and managing to get in on the mining we cannot now.
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@molometer ·
Hi Michelle, I've read the posts that have been flagged and cannot for the life of me see why any of them were flagged. All good, all original content all created by you.
So I don't get it?
Has there been any explanation from the person that flagged you? 

By extension. If someones shares a YouTube video from their own YouTube account. Is that wrong too? 
Let alone the people that share YouTube videos with no explanation or accreditation at all.

I'm reminded of a GBS quote.

***A fish rots from the head down***
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@michelle.gent ·
The posts made too much steem on the payouts... Go figure :/
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@felt.buzz · (edited)
I am not sure why you are giving in and letting the bullies win. Don't stop publishing your stories: why should you let one person have all that power (not just to reduce payout but to stop you publishing). Ignore him, he'll get bored and move on. You are just feeding him at the moment.
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@michelle.gent ·
It's really not the money that's my priority. Yeah, sure, it's nice but it's really not that. The fact that my posts got flagged when plagiarists and spammers are not only rife, but making actual money on here is sickening. 

Original work makes too much money and needs to be put in its place but copy/paste from google is left alone?

What can I do about that? I can't do anything but post and protest - and that's exactly what I've done. I've written posts that has brought this to the attention of everyone.
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@felt.buzz ·
$1.04
Yes, and it needed bring up. But what next? If you stop because of one idiot, he wins (he stops you making money from your original work) and all your supporters lose out. He is a worm, not a whale.
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@valued-customer ·
$1.11
You have also caused a community of like minded folks to rally around you, and if you do not 'crawl back into your minnow hole', and give them something to stand up for, you might well be the instigation of the effort that reforms this platform, and silences the censors.

Fortune favors the bold.

Be bold.
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@yougotflagged ·
**You have been flagged, likely because you are attempting to take advantage of the reward pool.  Please see my daily post for more detailed reasoning.  Thank you.**
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@michelle.gent ·
For me to try taking advantage of the reward pool, I'd have to be upvoting all my own comments, surely?

I don't know any other way of giving myself rewards.
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@valued-customer ·
She's being rewarded for making quality posts, that others upvote.

This is not abuse of the rewards pool, but <i>why the damn pool exists in the first place</i>!

IMHO, YOU are taking advantage of your mined stake to censor good content, and crush competitors for access to the rewards pool - which you want to maximize your return from.

Don't be shy.  Post your self voting botnet examples of extracting rewards, and how you've crushed other content creators into negative rep, as @dan finally did to you.

I have a lot of respect for your frankness, however, I believe you are either simply wrong in this matter, or misrepresenting your purpose.  I think you've done some good for the community, but you aren't doing it here.

You're crushing great original content.

Shame on you!
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@screenname ·
$0.40
Re: My flagged posts
<p>This post has been ranked within the top 80 most undervalued posts in the second half of Nov 20. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $11.58 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.</p> 
<p>See the full rankings and details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-nov-20---part-ii">The Daily Tribune: Nov 20 - Part II</a>. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/introducing-the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-nov-04---part-i">our initial post</a>.</p>
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