Libertarian Party - Freedom Fighters or Low Life Selfish Scum ? by nathen007

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Libertarian Party - Freedom Fighters or Low Life Selfish Scum ?
This isn't going to go down well, hey ho.......

I just read an article by @adamkokesh, entitled '[Why I love the Libertarian Party](https://steemit.com/libertarian/@adamkokesh/why-i-love-the-libertarian-party)'. Adam it seems upon further reading is intending to stand for President of the United States of America in 2020 and is a member of the Libertarian Party, and that takes some guts to stand up front for what you truly believe in.

Thanks to Adam, I've just spent the last couple of hours reading up on the Libertarian party and the ideals and philosophies of the Libertarian movement, and to some extent the Anarchist movement. 

The Libertarian Party's website starts out with a softly, softly approach...

>Consider voting Libertarian or joining the Libertarian Party because…
We seek to substantially reduce the size and intrusiveness of government and cut and eliminate taxes at every opportunity.
We believe that peaceful, honest people should be able to offer their goods and services to willing consumers without inappropriate interference from government.
We believe that peaceful, honest people should decide for themselves how to live their lives, without fear of criminal or civil penalties.
We believe that government’s only responsibility, if any, should be protecting people from force and fraud.

Then we get to the Platform, or manifesto if you wish. Their official statement of issues. You can read it [here](https://www.lp.org/platform/) and it is these principles on which I take issue.

The majority of these 'principles' could have been written by a spoilt child stamping it's feet. The pure selfishness of a society based upon an individuals rights to basically do what the fuck they like is moronic, insular and exclusive to the extreme. I have never read such a pile of contradictory nonsense written by what appears to amount to a load of middle class, white people  who wish to be allowed to do as they please, when they please, without recourse. 

It does say 'individuals should take responsibility for their actions' ..right. That's going to happen anytime soon. 

What about YOUR responsibility towards other members of the human race ?

Libertarians placing their trust in a 'survival of the fittest mentality' is possibly the most disgusting ideal I've ever seen. 

>Retirement planning is the responsibility of the individual, not the government. Libertarians would phase out the current government-sponsored Social Security system and transition to a private voluntary system. The proper and most effective source of help for the poor is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals. We believe members of society will become even more charitable and civil society will be strengthened as government reduces its activity in this realm. 

And if your utopian society isn't working, as I strongly suspect it won't, then what? What if people don't have the intelligence to get a top job or go through university ? What if the 'voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals' don't look out for the less fortunate, the ones who are ill but can't afford medical care. The elderly without family or a pension? .......No mention at all. But what else should one expect from a bunch of elitist self styled guardians of liberty!

You object to paying taxes, but you expect people to volunteer to pay towards social care? How does that work ? I see many trust issues.

>We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend the United States against aggression. The United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world. We oppose any form of compulsory national service.

Fuck off then..no problem! Close your borders, pull up your drawbridge and enjoy your self sufficiency. 

![Screenshot_31.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQ22CiqcJ4Z4NYUKWjchC6ak5kai2aagy26cXqCsZJ8Nf/Screenshot_31.png)

Interesting demographic - Libertarian Party convention from May 2016, Photo from their website

>Members of private organizations retain their rights to set whatever standards of association they deem appropriate, and individuals are free to respond with ostracism, boycotts and other free-market solutions.

So you're giving a company or organisation carte blanche to employ who they wish without any written legislation protecting equal rights, and then expecting individuals to deal with the issues brought up? LOL....again, what planet are you on exactly ? Or is it simply the fact the authors were high as kites on the narcotics they demand freedom to use when they wrote this. Wait till some racist scum applies this right afforded to him and refuses to let a black girl sit in the whites only seats....

>Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs. This statement shall not be construed to condone child abuse or neglect.

Doesn't condone it, but doesn't do anything to prevent it. What if their belief is aligned to fundamental Islamic ideology ? is that ok ? What system for child protection do you intend to have in place ? ahhhhh thats down to individuals to volunteer to protect children......got it, thanks!

>Therefore, we favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.

How do you know there are no victims ? another voluntary organisation to decide ? of course it will be easy to check because you've closed your borders and are'nt importing anything due to you not having anymore entangling alliances, assuming that also means trade alliances.

Let's hope that all over the world in response, people stop buying Coke and KFC and all those powerful brands whose wealth has built you the freedom you currently have to enable you to spout this arrogant trash.

![Screenshot_32.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZFSjE3teCQo3SzNhsizmTKcmS4GwYn1FwcawG6kppTeg/Screenshot_32.png)
The Libertarian Party National Council, photo taken from their website-truly representative of such a wonderful diverse nation....not.

In these times, we should be working in global cooperation and rectifying wrongs from the past, making sure our fellow human beings have food to eat, that people have basic liberties that you take for granted, that the world has access to medical care and clean water.

You don't give a fuck though do you ? As long as you have your right to own a gun and protect a piece of land you bought, even though your ancestors stole it from the natives. Even though the money you 'earned' to buy that piece of land came from an economy built by immigrants and slaves. 

You what I really hate? The fact you've taken the word 'Liberty' which is such a powerful word of freedom and hope, and turned it into a byword for an organisation which seem to represent little more than self-interest and self-importance.

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@wordsword · (edited)
Two questions.

What do you personally believe should be done to me personally if I don't pay the demanded tribute, via taxes, to the political ruling class to pay for the things you want?

And what do you personally believe should be done to me personally if I don't let you impose your will on me. Please be literal and specific.
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@nathen007 ·
Your first question is ridiculous in the extreme because it assumes you're going to be paying for something I want ? Its a logical fallacy....instead of that silly question, why dont you or your party's manifesto explain simply, how things that apply to the community, ie the whole country are going to be funded ? How is the military, for self defence only of course, going to be funded ??

Second question is also stupid beyond words, I don't want to impose my 'will' on you...I want work with my fellow humans in cooperatives lol....seriously, what are you talking about ?

And now you answer me, how do 320m Americans who have all these individual rights organise themselves to live together in peace and harmony ?

The point is, you can please some of the people, all of the time and all of the people, some of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time. At that point, where does that leave your libertarian principles ? 
Absolute nonsense.
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@wordsword ·
What do you want government to do for you?
Why do you go and vote?
Don't you vote for the politician that promises to do the things you want and that promises to make the world in what you want it to be?
If you go vote do you not hope that your politician makes a law from your opinion/wishes/and make other people pay for the things you want?
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