Avengers Endgame - Time Travel Explained by oendertuerk

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Avengers Endgame - Time Travel Explained
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Well, the point that confuses most people the most is the case with the time travel in the film. Many people are confused and not without reason. Because Hollywood showed us how time travel has to work. But these are just different interpretations of the different time travel theories that exist in our present time. Many of them are very simple and others very paradoxical. But in Endgame it is explicitly said that you should forget all the time travel theories as you know them from all the Hollywood movies. 

This means, what happened in the past has happened and you can't change it. In *Back to the Future* we are shown that if Marty McFly does something wrong in the past, for example his parents never become a couple, he will never be born and thus disappear him in air because this will mean that he will never have existed. In Endgame it is not like this way. Time travel has no butterfly effect in the Marvel Comic/Cinematic Universe, like the movies *Back to the Future* and *Butterfly Effect* suggest to us. The travel through time into the past does not change the present and the future because everything what happened is already written and it is unchangeable.

Therefore the idea of Rhodey aka War Machine is directly waved off by Professor Hulk to kill Thanos as a baby. Or for example we see Tony Stark talking to his father Howard in the past or Captain America fighting against himself in the past or Thor just taking the hammer from the past into the future and it hasn't any effect at the future and nothing has changed. Assuming Cap had killed his former self in the past, this would have had no effect on the future and Cap from the future would not disappear into thin air. That is because actions in time travel have no effect on the main timeline.

Although the X-Men also belong to Marvel, unofficially, and time travel is also a topic there, it is also different there and has nothing to do with the time travel case from the MCU. Also this you must forget completely. 

But let us now come to time traveling and how it really works in the MCU.

The heroes probably don't even know how time travel works, because they never traveled through time before. The only thing they have is their theory and therefore it is new territory for them. The only one who could say anything about time and traveling through time would have been Doctor Strange, because he is the guardian of the Time Stone, but he was also disappeared into the air by the snap of Thanos. This fact also means that the Avengers are not fully aware of the effects their time travel will have. 

This becomes clear to Professor Hulk when he meets The Ancient One in New York in 2012. She explains to him here that Hulk is no longer in his own past, but in a past from a parallel timeline, another universe. She explains the time travel theme of Marvel best. As soon as the Avengers grab a Stone from the past, the universe splits and a new timeline emerges, a parallel universe. And this happened already at the moment when the Avengers traveled into the past to get the Infinity Stones.

She, as the guardian of time and the mentor of Doctor Strange, explains to Hulk that the Infinity Stones are only responsible for the fact that the stream of time exists and if one of the stones is gone, than this would plunge everything into chaos. This would, for example, cause the Cosmic Primeval Forces not anymore to remain hidden and there would be no more protection against them. And maybe more can happen what is not explained yet. We have already seen one of these primeval cosmic powers in the Doctor Strange film, in which he overmastered Dormammu.


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@santoninoatocha ·
A point of view very well explained, @oendertuerk but still for many it is not easy to discern, and more when there is information that they do not know, I see that you are very well informed (X-Men Marvel), these details are of the utmost importance , I will wait for the following...
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I thought that Marvel established, as you say, that you can't change the past. But didn't Captain America do exactly that by altering his own timeline and showing back up as an old man at the end of the movie? The implication was that he went back and lived his life as if he had never been frozen. Is Marvel breaking their own rules here or am I missing something? It seems like he should not have shown back up in the same timeline if Marvel were following their own rules.
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@oendertuerk ·
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Cap traveled back to the year 1940, probably after he was frozen in the ice, and get from there on old. This means that there were 2 Captain Americas in the timeline. Then, when he got old, he traveled from the timeline where he got old to the main timeline to then hand over the shield. That's what I wanted to explain in the last part of this series. I've already finished it as raw and i will work it out a bit, altogether it will be with this 4 articles about the time travel case.
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@darth-azrael · (edited)
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Ok, I guess that could have happened :). The movie made it look like he had aged normally and just wandered back when he got old since he didn't show back up via the "time machine".

Also there's the fact that they seemed to have discovered how to be immortal. When they were first experimenting with Ant Man he came back aged differently several times. Seems like you could just pop in when you were getting old, take off 20-40 years or whatever you felt like and come back again. But hey, this is comics and there's always a good excuse why you can't do something anymore. :)
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