Is this abuse? by organduo

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· @organduo · (edited)
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Is this abuse?
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Today I've noticed that some people post a photo with a link to a source, add exactly one sentence about this picture on their own and the rest of the post is actually a footer with the the same message repeating in every post. Such user is posting this way multiple times a day. Maybe 10 or so times. But apparently doesn't self-vote.

I thought about the motivation of such behavior and came to the conclusion (and this is only my personal opinion) that such person does this purely in hopes to get more upvotes. Basically the motivation behind this is financial.

Have you seen such posts yourself?

The thing that is bothering me is not so much that the photo isn't their's (they do provide a link back to the source) but that it doesn't add any value to the platform or to the person who is posting.

Sure, the picture might be pretty to look at, but it's somebody else's photo. If this person would use only the photos that they have taken themselves, then a single photo would be fine with me. Because it would be original.

To post 10 times a day this way does take time but what is the result in terms of results? Only one or two cents.

Clearly their audience doesn't think such content is worthy of much support.

The good thing is that they don't self-vote. Not like some people we all know too well.

Just to be clear I also self-vote on many of my posts but it's only because I need liquid Steem to support [@deemarshall](https://steemit.com/@deemarshall)'s, [@laputis](https://steemit.com/@laputis) and mine contests community. I simply don't have enough of support from outside of not to self-vote, not to buy the upvotes from the bidbots AND donate 60 Steem in prizes at the same time every week.

The rewards have to come from somewhere. And because I have invested significant amount of money into this platform, I use self-votes to get rewards which goe back to the community in the form of prizes.

So going back to this instance of a single picture with a link to source and a single sentence I think such user could be much more creative.

Are they having fun posting 10 times a day? I don't think so. It's real work.

Are such posts engaging enough so that they receive thoughtful comments? Well, one or two commets per post but not always even that much.

I don't really understand such tactic.

If the engagement is rather low, if the post rewards are low, if it's real work to post 10 times a day, what kind of satisfaction does one get from such posts?

Is it creatively challenging? It could be a challenge to find such photos on the internet but the user seems to have the main source on the web from which the photos are taken.

Am I being elitist? Or is this abuse? Is this a case for steemcleaners to look at? Or maybe such person simply could do a better job of being creative?

By the way, such people usually post low quality comments as well, often bordering on copy/pasting one sentence without showing the author any details that they have actually consumed the content. In other words, if you would take the comment alone, you wouldn't have any clue what was in the post that the comment was meant to go with.

However, the pictures in the posts are really pretty so it's clear to say that the user has a good taste.

I'm well aware that if our platform wants to grow into mainstream, we should be ready to accept all kinds of posts and posting behaviors, from shitposts to 20000 word stories and everything in between but...

...There is always a space for improvement.

What do you think?

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@magic8ball ·
To the question in your title, my Magic 8-Ball says:<blockquote>Yes definitely</blockquote><hr>*Hi! I'm a bot, and this answer was posted automatically. Check [this post out](https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@magic8ball/introducing-the-magic-8-ball-bot) for more information.*
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@tarazkp ·
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I think it is abuse. There is a lot of it and if you go through the "new" section you will see a whole *new* world of nonsense. People are people and most are going to take any advantage they can get away with. 

Btw, when you self-vote, remember to wait closer to the 15 minute mark rather than lose the curation percentage. There are two reasons for this, firstly, it is because you can still grow a little further and cost average. secondly, it gives the people who do vote for you a little higher curation return. When you vote early, it closes them out of a lot of their curation but the author (you in this case) is guaranteed the 75% anyway.
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@organduo ·
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Thanks for the tip about 15 minute interval for voting. Since I started writing more, I think I'll just set up a few autoves using Steemdunk and then there will be no need for me to do it manually.

I wonder if educational posts like this help reduce abuse at least a little bit or people are people and they will continue this nonsense whatever the cost to everybody else?

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@tarazkp ·
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>I wonder if educational posts like this help reduce abuse at least a little bit or people are people and they will continue this nonsense whatever the cost to everybody else?

most of the people who act like that, don't read so much ;) However, I do think it has an effect on people who do read and gets them thinking about various aspects of the platform they may not have earlier.
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@maxdevalue ·
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I hope that your post here could help change  mindsets of those that engages in such abuse.

Thanks for pointing it out @organduo

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@organduo ·
It's funny the person in question hasn't made any low quality comments on this post yet so maybe you're right...

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@msowner2 ·
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@allyson19 ·
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People who create those kind of low quality posts will soon realize that they need to make a wise use of their resource credit because rc is important and does not come cheap. 
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@organduo ·
Yes but once you have about 50 SP then  you have plenty of room to post and comment. RC is a good thing though...

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@contrabourdon ·
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What is RC? And does SP stand for Steem Power 

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@contrabourdon ·
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It’s playing the system. I’m still learning about this community and reputation is important. The content I create is clearly by me for the purposes of sharing it with others. I don’t quite understand the self voting thing or bots yet, but in time I will. Thanks for sharing your reasons. I have learnt a lot just from your post. 

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@organduo ·
I don't want to shout out the usernames but there are such people even in our community. However, when I was giving 8 cent upvotes for comments, there were more... They clearly don't care about anything else besides those 2 cents... Makes me feel sad and sorry for them because they still can earn the money they have wasted in the long run but the time they have wasted is gone forever.

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@erikah ·
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I've seen this kind of behaviour ever since I've registered. These people think this is Facebook or similar. They have a long way to learn but the sad truth is they only care about the rewards, nothing more. These people will always exist, unfortunately.
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@organduo ·
And they will leave in about 6 months when they realize the rewards are so miniscule if you're only doing this. But of course, armies of others will take their place...

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@erikah ·
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You're right unfortunately, these people come and go and never learn.
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@cabalen · (edited)
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I saw one just now. It caught my attention because the photo used by the Steemian looked familiar to me.  I visited his profile to see if he is from my country but obviously he's not. He posts photos that are from all over the world and no image source mentioned. I was surprised to see that each photo he posted came with a short one sentence description and got 100 plus votes on each photo. I guess that is because of curation trail. So many people here are trying their best to create content and on the other side so many are doing shortcuts.
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@organduo ·
I guess this is hardly avoidable in the decentralized censorship resistant world that we are trying to create. The community will have to decide what is good content and what is not. I do hope though that at least some people will come to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort to try to game the system.
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@adamada ·
$0.08
You can have it reported to @steemflagrewards :D
We have some definitions of abuse and we flag/downvote posts that fit into the category. Users that downvote abuse posts will be rewarded with an upvote (Soon to be replaced by a credit system for better reward distribution) to compensate efforts and some additional value than what vote weight they have used for downvoting.
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@organduo · (edited)
Yes or steemcleaners. But I wasn't sure it's an abuse because they did provide a link to a source. Looked more like a shitpost than abuse, haha!
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@anthonyadavisii ·
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Yes, I am not sure that would fall into SC scope. We have a few novel ways that we address this sort of things. My personal favorite is the flag rewards campaign but it's a bit time consuming with my current technology.

Feel free to hop in our discord and we can work together. Also, think you can probably throw in the utopian-io and antiabuse tags and we can review your post under the antiabuse category.

Let me know if you would like to do this. I am not entirely sure how it fits in all the criteria but I think it would be a valuable contribution nonetheless.

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@deemarshall ·
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Yes, I have seen these posts. I wouldn't get out of bed for them. They bore me.

I always feel very fortunate myself when I see people so desperate for upvotes that they post other's pics. 

I know the situation in some countries is bad and that some people from those countries use the crypto they earn here to buy food.

With this in mind, I accept these posts and hope the poster makes a little profit.

I think they would make a better return by posting their own original quality content less often.
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@organduo ·
I agree. This particular user has over 2000 followers but their posts earn just a few cents. Imagine what would happen if they wrote just once a day a blog post about anything that comes to their mind... Surely the rewards would be much higher...
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@deemarshall ·
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Absolutely!
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@wakeupkitty ·
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I noticed it too in the past days, Honestly speaking it confuses me and I do not understand why they even get upvoted so much.

I agree it does not add anything to the platform.

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@organduo ·
These people need to wake up and think about a better long-term strategy... I guess some of them don't care...
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@wakeupkitty ·
If I notice it again I ask again what exactly I am looking at.

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