Thank you very much for this post @overkillcoin!
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These are very good points that you have mentioned Many Newbies need to be educated and understand that Steemit is different than other social media websites.

I think the problem of defining a spammer is somewhat exaggerated. Now everyone can use Google translator. This service, albeit with errors like mine, but will convey the essence of your thoughts.
The spammer does not have time to read the text of the post, but only copies the same phrases, like "Ifllowyou-youfllowme", "great post" and other....

As a struggling bilingual I have been thinking this for some time, yet could not have articulated it as well as you. Thanks for these awesome infograms and balanced perspectives! Great job, resteemed!

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This is a very well thought out overview and I appreciate it! Your blog gets a lot of Spam attention so I can understand the frustration.

I would like to see a built in Steemit or Busy feature, or even a bot that comments on comments that are repeated through the blockchain. I think there is one, but it doesn't catch everything. That would allow us to more easily mute or flag. 

I have recently connected with a bunch of English as a second language Steemians through the efforts of @surpassinggoogle and I have really enjoyed their different cultural perspectives and optimism. I would hate to see these great people get flagged. Many of them are using Steem income to better their lives and also they use this platform to help educate and network themselves!

I am glad you wrote this today. Thoughtful and thought provoking.

Now...in the spirit of spamming, I am compelled to say :)

Please upvote me and follow me!

thanks for that information i do not know english well i boast mistakes to write i believe i understand

I definately understand where you're coming from with this.. I've had some people that I thought were spammers until I went and looked at some of their other comments.. but that is a lot of work.. especially when time is so limited for you

I got flagged today for trying to provide translation from German to English for people. :(

Actually, it should become more common for people to express themselves in their language, avoid any slangs (and add what language their using) That way they can write longer comments showing they read the post. Google translate is really amazing :)

Our paths have crossed before so I already admired your efforts but I seriously appreciate all your work here distilling a complicated topic into easily digestible parts. 

The language barrier is something I've been thinking about a lot so I am fully behind the idea of educating and supporting new users and preparing guides in their native languages. These users aren't spammers, they just don't understand the proper way to engage and with just a little guidance they can easily learn.

Great points here! Reserve the flags for the spammers by helping to educate the non native speakers so they can master the platform! I try to communicate as much as possible but they don't often respond. I think you're right the devs need to get involved here to separate the wheat from the shaft! Then we can all flag the shafters!

I plus that @overkillcoin that creators spend so much time to create a post that adds value to the community, where as people just want to have loot for free.

Lately, I have been reading some of the Japanese post using translator, but I usually respond in English as it's primary language to communicate. Well my native isn't English and I don't see anyone on Steem speaking my mother-tongue which is Marathi or even my national Language Hindi. Indians usually prefer English in posts.

But people need to understand that Basic English is must or they need to improvise. I like your idea, if there are inbuilt addons which could provide translation will assist a lot.

Spammers are curse to every social media platform!

Grammatical mistakes can be ignored but we all hate typical one-liners used by human-bots!

if u will follow me. i will follow u

Before I flag someone I always check their profile to see if they are he/she/it is really a spammer/abuser. It only takes me a few seconds to identify a spammer.

I think you caught me! My English is extremely basic level, however I try to interest in the publications of people, sometimes not enienden what I say (that makes me feel bad), but I think I learned more English with steemit than in the infinity of courses attended... but I do not to lose the habit and I tell you... Nice post brother!

It is indeed a fine line, and one we need to tread carefully.  It's easy to ridicule poor English or flag it as spam, but I applaud anyone who can communicate in a second (or third, or fourth) language.  I certainly can't (unless gibberish counts), and English is difficult enough to master as a primary language.

If Google translate has an API then it could be easy to implement... But to be honest I don't see 'steemit developers' interested on the needs of the community u.u and that is sad :(

There are people in non-English communities are aware of that as well. I guess there is not any well-known, organized effort, on their fronts to guide newbies into Steemit, so many of them wind up being vote circlejerkers.

In a post I was reading today, someone posted [this](https://steemit.com/steemit/@abdulmanan/re-dragosroua-may-30-days-writing-challenge-day-seven-name-3-things-that-must-be-done-immediately-to-make-steemit-com-a-better-experience-20180507t065313566z#@enforcer48/re-abdulmanan-re-dragosroua-may-30-days-writing-challenge-day-seven-name-3-things-that-must-be-done-immediately-to-make-steemit-com-a-better-experience-20180507t135914083z) comment on @dragosroua's writing challenge.

hehehehe my level of English is like that of a newborn but thanks to my stay in Steemit and I have been growing in many things and I hope my English is also growing... soon I will be a bilingual ;)

Oh man, this is such a great post!!

I seriously thought the same thing before... because I have a lot of friends in foreign countries who aren't so great at English. Some can speak but not write so well.

It seems that people don't take the time to stop and ask themeslf this very question!!! No one stops to ask "is this a spammer or someone with basic english?"

I don't know why it never occurred to me to make a post about this as it's something that's on my mind a lot.

Honestly, you did a better job than I would have of explaining it anyway.

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