Thoughts on SteemiTron - Yes, I tend to take my time :-) by soyrosa

tron · @soyrosa · May 25 '20 (edited)

$12.66

Thoughts on SteemiTron - Yes, I tend to take my time :-)

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@preparedwombat · Feb 21 '20

>We then had a very very pleasant 4-hour long 'aftertalk' on PALnet 

Do you know if this been posted somewhere or was it only live?

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@soyrosa · Feb 21 '20

$0.02

Hey @preparedwombat, yes, @aggroed posted the recording: https://steemit.com/dtube/@aggroed/o5fkcc5chcr - he recorded the first 3 hours which was the 'official' part, the other hour was less moderated as anyone could come in who wanted to share something.

👍 preparedwombat, techtek, dustsweeper, misterengagement

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@preparedwombat · Feb 21 '20

Thanks!

!ENGAGE 23

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@misterengagement · Feb 21 '20

<center><div class="center">https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/50x50/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmdHfkhCPGYcfUqZqT4Br3nsmCpeVPj1BcLoepVX2PYeAE/engagetoken.png/ </div><br><br> @soyrosa you have received `23 ENGAGE` from @preparedwombat!<br>View and trade the tokens on [Steem Engine](https://steem-engine.com?p=market&t=ENGAGE).</center><br><hr><center><sup>This tip bot is powered by witness <a href="https://untersatz.steem.design">untersatz</a>!</sup></center>

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@bashadow · Feb 21 '20

As far as the witness selection goes, I don't think we, (the users), have a say in the matter at all. As you pint out currently there is one large stake holder than can heavily influence the top 20. So as a user I see the witness situation the same way I see the down vote issue, a broken system that for what ever reason people are not interested in seeing fixed. 

Pumpkin or Justin, does it really matter which one picks the witnesses?

👍 misterengagement

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@midlet · Feb 21 '20

Well I think there is an answer but maybe it’s not realistic or practical. We all need to buy as much STEEM as possible. If all the really engaged people bought more STEEM from whales to minnows, we could potentially collectively hold more than the super whales. That’s the only sure fire way to negate that risk.

👍 misterengagement, zu2

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@soyrosa · Feb 21 '20

!ENGAGE 20

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@soyrosa · Feb 21 '20

As @midlet mentions, when we as a community can power up more than Steemit, Inc's stake we could always counter any witness voting they do. Another suggestion I like is lowering the amount of witness votes per Steemian to something like 10 votes, so in theory one stakeholder can 'only' decide 10 of the top witness spots while the community will decide the rest. I like the last option best as it seems like a permanent solution to the otherwise permanent threat of getting bought by one millionair/whale :D

👍 misterengagement

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@bashadow · Feb 22 '20

Every time I have seen the lowering the numbers, people always say it won't work because they could always split their SP among a number of accounts, Yes they could do that, but it would still dilute their power, yet that point is always ignored. Perhaps the witnesses now that their positions could be in danger may try to do something. Another solution is a graduated scale vote. You still get your 30 votes, but each vote is lowered, a sliding downscale. example 1st witness vote is at 100%, 2nd witness vote is at 85% of total Sp available, and so on stepping down to where the last witness to be voted on by an account only gets 3% of the SP vote power. 

One day a solution may be presented and accepted, until then there really is no change in the power of the users.
!ENGAGE 25 thank you

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@misterengagement · Feb 22 '20

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@soyrosa · Feb 21 '20

!ENGAGE 20

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@misterengagement · Feb 21 '20

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@lordbutterfly · Feb 22 '20

Of course it matters. 

Pumpkin is silent and votes reactionary. He doesnt place "demands" or "tries to get his way". 
Justin poses a threat because he will most likely act proactively and get his way on things (if he indeed uses the stake). 

There is a vast difference there. What Aggroed said is wholly misleading and hes salty Pumpkin (which you are apparently repeating) removed his vote. 

The difference is enormous between Pumpkin and Justin.

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@bashadow · Feb 22 '20

> Pumpkin is silent and votes reactionary.

In other words if you don't toe the line he pulls his support? Or if you say the wrong thing he pulls his support? How is this not trying to get your way? Being silent only means no one knows who he is or what agenda he has. Justin, at least we know who he is if not his agenda.

I did not mention Aggroed at all in my response,  **(which you are apparently repeating)**,The only names I mentioned were Pumpkin and Justin. ***I repeated nothing***. The fact is that their are 3 accounts that control who can and can not make it into the top 20 witness. With out one or the other two's support the top 20 will not change. 

The witness system as I said in my response is broken, and there has seemed to be no desire to fix it.

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@soyunasantacruz · Feb 21 '20

Hi @soyrosa, I liked the analysis that you do of the whole panorama of steem, I have tried to read as much as possible of all this scenario and my doubts grow more and more, but as I am optimistic I believe in a better future and I maintain that Faith.

I will read the comments that you make and hopefully they will answer your doubts which are those of many. Thank you for creating this post. Greetings.

👍 misterengagement

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@soyrosa · Feb 21 '20

Hi @soyunasantacruz, thanks for stopping by and sharing your doubts. It's certainly good to stay informed and know where we stand as a community and how we can protect ourselves in the future :-) I tend to believe in the 'good' of people and I do think *if* some thinks are discussed and worked out will in a roadmap we can come out of this collaboration better than before :-)

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@soyrosa · Feb 21 '20

!ENGAGE 20

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@misterengagement · Feb 21 '20

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@rok-sivante · Feb 24 '20

>We lost a burned out CEO and we gained a passionate one with a big wallet. I'd never thought I's sound so golddiger-like, but damn, do I like that we're married with a man with a big wallet, I'm not gonna lie.

🤣👏

It's interesting how polarizing these events have been - same with anything these days, perhaps.

Personally, it may just be the optimist in me speaking, though I see the 'takeover' as something that can only be beneficial. Yeah, there'll be speedbumps and hiccups, but like you've expressed brilliantly in metaphor here, there are undeniable advantages to Sun's taking control.

And take a look at the **results...**

We've been waiting on communities for **two years**. Ned's team never delivered. Sun steps in, and **bam...** in **five days**, there are communities.

And *of course,* the team's been working on them for a long time, testing them out, etc, etc. Though it does say **alot** about the differences in organizational culture whereby the old had consistently been unable to deliver on their promises, yet the new **gets it DONE** within week one.

Time shall tell. Though *IMO,* considering how ineffective & inefficient the old team had been, and in consideration of the significant resources and competent capabilities *to deliver* that have already been proven by Sun - including his factoring in the opinion of the Steemit community in the days following the announcement, regarding a token-swap strategy - I'd say there are valid reasons for optimism...

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