Encouraging Comments from SEC Chairman Clayton by stan

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Encouraging Comments from SEC Chairman Clayton
This is Huge!  I find recent remarks by Chairman Clayton softening his black and white view of blockchain tokens as ["Every ICO I've seen is a Security"](https://www.coindesk.com/sec-chief-clayton-every-ico-ive-seen-security/) to be very encouraging.  Sanity may be beginning to prevail.

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A [Coindesk article](https://www.coindesk.com/sec-chief-not-icos-bad/) quoted the Chairman several times on the subject:

- "One of the issues with token sales is the attempt to classify them as so-called 'utility tokens,' which would ostensibly free them from any kind of designation as a security. As such, he reiterated his view that almost all token sales purport to sell such products, despite the fact that they are actually securities."

- If a startup is "offering something that depends on the efforts of others, it should be regulated as a security." 

- "If I have a laundry token for washing my clothes, that's not a security. But if I have a set of 10 laundry tokens and the laundromats are to be developed and those are offered to me as something I can use for the future and I'm buying them because I can sell them to next year's incoming class, that's a security,"

- "What we find in the regulatory world [is that] the use of a laundry token evolves over time," he continued. "The use can evolve toward or away from a security."

- "Just because it's a security today doesn't mean it'll be a security tomorrow, and vice-versa."

**Bravo!  Bravo!  I actually agree with the Chairman on all of these.**

(I'm sure he will appreciate this highly coveted endorsement.)

One nit to pick though.  The Howey test does require  more than just "depends on the efforts of others" however, but he was speaking off the cuff so I'll cut him the same slack I hope to be granted by his heartless enforcers when I'm speaking off the cuff.)

Nevertheless, what a breath of fresh air!

You see, if we can stop using a broad brush where different agencies try to classify "all tokens" as securities, commodities, property, or legal tender and recognize that 

<center>**How a token is classified depends only on**
**what it is used for**
**and the promises someone makes about it.**</center>

And it matters _who_ makes those claims!  Can I turn Bitcoin into a security by promising to pay holders of Bitcoin a share in the returns of my enterprise?  Can I turn it into a commodity by offering to redeem a bitcoin for an ounce of gold?  Can I then turn it into a utility token by accepting them in my laundry machines?

If I offer a token to use as a poker chip in my casino and people start speculating on their future value and hoarding them because someone at Coindesk claimed they might have other uses at an upcoming rock concert, am I suddenly in trouble? What if its a digital poker chip you can buy at a crypto exchange.  Does that suddenly change its classification?


And the admission that a token can change in time almost brings tears to my eyes!  Yes!

## No Call for a Reign of Terror

So can we please not terrorize an entire industry by issuing blanket rulings and mass corporate executions?  Can we please not send SWAT teams into seize the assets of a company before intelligent people have debated in a civilized forum about whether that company's token offering is a security or a commodity or a poker chip?

On or about February 2nd, the SEC quietly revised its accusations without the same fanfare they gave to the original false claims. All the most outrageous criminal accusations in the SEC v Arise Bank case have been refuted.  The real criminal has confessed in deposition to fraudulently selling Arise Bank a bank - meaning that Arise was the victim not the perpetrator.   The only charges that might stick are four counts of what amounted to _disagreeing with the SEC about the definition of a token and whether smart phone piggy-bank manufactures can use the word "bank"_ like ceramic piggy-bank sellers are allowed to do.  

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So, if the SEC Chairman admits that token definitions can vary over time and from token to token, then shouldn't we have a civilized process for classifying tokens that doesn't involve midnight SWAT team raids and presumptions of guilt leading to the total and permanent a-priori destruction of a promising young company and disenfranchisement of its stakeholders without due process?

Just sayin'...
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@ausharya ·
It was good. Hope everyone will benefit from it. Go ahead very well.
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@rasel49 ·
Another cool thing.
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@mediahousent ·
Hello @stan, is Clayton and Security Exchange Commission (SEC)   postulating to commercialize tokens? In order for it to be available as forex trading.
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@mcdform ·
That would be interesting but I'm thinking that more and more projects in the U.S. will just go through compliance and register as securities.  Once they are legally securities the number of exchanges could flourish.
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@stan ·
Haven't heard any mention of that.
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@mediahousent ·
Okay, I guess it is a good idea  if they're planning that? 
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@mcdform ·
It seems that a lot of ICOs are delaying until their project has some working product.  This avoids the laundromat  dilemma.

This is forcing the legit projects to get VC funding in the early stages to build out a working product.  Then ICO to get the rest.
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@stan ·
Yes, and destroys one of the best innovations of the industry.  Meanwhile you can go buy a government lotto ticket with a 99.9999% chance of losing your money.
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@taskmaster4450 ·
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You have been consistent all along @stan.  The problem is using logic with an entity (the government) who does not operate that way.  Often, these henchmen arrive at the door because someone sent them...and I dont mean their employers.  Those pulling the strings behind the scenes have an agenda.  We know who they are and what that agenda is...it really is no secret.  If you are a threat to those running Wall Street, hence most of the world, you are going to get attacked.

Fortunately, their efforts are going to be for naught since blockchain cannot be stopped.  Nevertheless, they can cast a wide net and destroy a lot of people in the process.

By the way, any word on what the SEC is going to do about the head of Bitcoin Latina who took Jared's tokens right from under the SEC's nose?
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@stan ·
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Apparently nothing.  They apparently only pick on innocent people they don't like.
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@gold84 · (edited)
Hi @stan and @taskmaster4450 ! Yes, they do whatever they want because they have the power. Hopefuly their reign will end soon, because blockchain technologies are here to stay and are disrupting all industries step by step, and this is giving people the enpowerment they deserve, and little by little the real freedom is given back to people.

Regards, @gold84
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@batfinkler ·
hey stan any update on when bitshares.org is going to be upgraded ? thought the company who took over were going to be putting out an update straight away ? cheers
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@stan · (edited)
Wondering that myself.  Probably trying to coordinate with others in the community.
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@batfinkler ·
That would be great - looking forward to seeing what they put out. Keep up the good work my friend
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@robinsoncaiso ·
Wow That's cool :):) just Amazing  @Upovted
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@crypto3em3 ·
Nice to have some good news!
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Your Informations
Total SBD: 4.852
Total STEEM: 36.564
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I recommend to increase this;
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You can purchase "upvote" by bid bots.
"Upvote Bot"
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I'm taking this message once. You need to use the #steembottrackerr tag for more information.
Those who "upvote" this interpretation will be awarded a "UpVote" prize of 100 Sbd per week per person.
I am a bot, I can not answer the comment. I hope I could help. Good luck. Sorry if I disturbed you.
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