Hashflare answered me!!! Are they fucking kidding me? Tables and charts of my experience. by stea90

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Hashflare answered me!!! Are they fucking kidding me? Tables and charts of my experience.
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**Dear Steemians, today I want to tell you about my experience with Hashflare. After a year of probation, because I had been burned by Hashocean, I decided to give confidence again to the cloud mining and given the favorable time I invested in August 1450$ by purchasing 12.2 TH/s SHA-256. According to my calculations in about 110 days I should have recovered the investment and then started a reinvestment strategy that would have allowed me to multiply long-term gains much.**

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**Cari Steemians, oggi voglio raccontarvi la mia esperienza con Hashflare. Dopo un anno di prova, perchè ero rimasto scottato da Hashocean, ho deciso di dare fiducia nuovamente al cloud mining e dato il favorevole momento ad Agosto ho investito circa 1450$ acquistando 12,2 TH/s SHA-256. Secondo i miei calcoli in circa 110 giorni avrei dovuto recuperare l'investimento, per poi iniziare una strategia di reinvestimento che mi avrebbe permesso di moltiplicare di molto i guadagni a lungo termine.**

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![hashflare 1.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmcEDnoCtUCnQLF5RvuM8B5xTaYeYex1J7Diw3nEkcjD84/hashflare%201.jpg)

## <center>The Breakthrough</center>

![st2.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRSmyZuCJQcBBW2Js6tPJL8jGfk7vcfDtxDrTEQH4bUtP/st2.png)

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**2 weeks after the investment, I opened Hashflare and saw the message announcing the change in contract conditions, doubling the cost of the hashrates and bringing all the old and new contracts to 1 year. Fantastic, my long-term projects have completely disappeared. The first thing I did was send a letter of complaint. As follows:**

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**2 settimane dopo l'investimento, aprii Hashflare e vedo il messaggio che annunciava la variazione delle condizioni dei contratti, raddoppiando il costo delle hashrate e portando tutti i vecchi e nuovi contratti ad 1 anno. Fantastico, i miei progetti a lungo termine sono svaniti completamente. La prima cosa che feci fu mandare una lettere di reclamo. Come segue:**

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<i>"Hi, I understand the increase in cost because I have seen the rise in hardware prices. But if the contract becomes only one year there is no more convenience. Next month I wanted to make a big investment, but now I find it uncomfortable."</i>

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**Perhaps I kept myself in a tone too gentle, because in the end this is a real scam. But I did not even expect an answer. But after about 2 weeks, I received this answer, which seemed more like a fucking kidding than else.**

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**Forse mi sono mantenuto in un tono troppo garbato, perchè in fondo questa è una vera e propria truffa. Ma d'altronde non mi aspettavo neanche una risposta. Invece dopo circa 2 settimane, ho ricevuto questa risposta, che mi sembrava più una presa per il culo che altro.**

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"Hello,

The change in contract duration was definitely a very diffiсult decision, but, nevertheless, the right one. It will allow us to continue to keep the contracts profitable. We were forced to change the contract terms due to the market changes outside of our control. There is a global shortage of hardware and the manufacturers have overflowing orders.

It's important to remember, the mining will continue and the contracts have not been terminated. The payouts will continue as expected. The contracts remain profitable with a projected 300% ROI."

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**300% ROI??? They really fucking kidding me! If all goes well maybe I reach 250% because I bought the hashrates while they were still on offer at 120$ for TH/s, but now at 240$ for TH/s you only go over the investment does not go any further. So I do not think it's okay, might now as well to keep the BTC, at least if they increase the value you have them all ready to sell.**

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**300% ROI??? Mi prendono davvero per il culo! Se tutto va bene forse raggiungo il 250% io perchè ho comprato le hashrate mentre erano ancora in offerta a 120$ per TH/s, ma ora a 240$ per TH/s superi di poco l'investimento non vai oltre. Dunque non penso proprio che ora  convenga, tanto vale tenere la i BTC, almeno se aumentano di valore li hai tutti li pronti da vendere.**

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<center>![hf4.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmbfS743R2TfFEjHoUuuJFbjVSHinuSZioocXW8ooG17mE/hf4.jpg)</center>

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**Also, I am not sure that today's ROI is achievable, because payments are slowly dropping and fees increase. At this point, I have lost almost all the confidence in them and every five days I am withdrawing the proceeds, although I lose much in cost, but the fear that one day to another may disappear also Hashflare is much. I've created tables with graphics to keep track of their payments and as you can see the situation goes worse.**

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**Inoltre non sono sicuro che alle condizioni odierne si raggiunga il ROI, perchè i pagamenti stanno lentamente calando e i fee aumentano. A questo punto, ho perso quasi tutta la fiducia in loro e ogni 5 giorni  circa ritiro i proventi, sebbene ne perdo molto in costi, ma la paura che da un giorno a l'altro possa sparire anche Hashflare è molta. Ho creato delle tabelle con dei grafici annessi per mantenere monitorato i pagamenti e come potete vedere la situazione va di male in peggio.**

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![hf3.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdJcrdtscsPMSGm3FGApLsM4e9NQuaP1mgbzTCtK8VpWp/hf3.jpg)

![hf2.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmV1nAUBx9zJFSac4KD1QhWFCpgVpyHLizRwZ6aC8DEyLP/hf2.jpg)

## <center>**What do you think?**</center>

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@havok777 ·
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Never found reliable cloudmining ever. Yet it's flooded in promotion on sites such as youtube.
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@stea90 ·
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I agree, when the last contract expires, I do not want to know more about cloud mining.
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@clixmoney ·
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I don't recommend you to use minno-w s u -pport any more, because sinse I started to use their upvote way, where they upvote you with a lot of upvoted and you earn from them about a dollar, when whales see that you have a lot of upvotes and don't ern much from them they don't upvote, this why I don't use them anymore. It's better to count on yourself even if you will earn a little bit less, I am booting my self that way. ☺
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@stea90 ·
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I get less than $ 1, I think they are about 40 cents. You say the whales are avoiding you for that? For the little I get, I can try to not use it, let's see if it changes!
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@clixmoney ·
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I don't think that they are wales, I can't change my post about advertizing them, but I am sure that's not helpful, I meant whales that was upvoting you before ( or just people with good steem power ) will not upvote anymore when they see that you have a lot of upvoted that costs very low. ( this is my opinion )

I call whales even people that have more than 1000 steem power, whale in my opinion is an active people that are trying to improve steemit like you and me, not people that invested a lot of money buying steem power and charing some video or picture or already have a good traffic before, it's easy, they are fishies for me. 

We are fighting here and doing all that we can to grow a little bit, we deserve more respect !
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@gabriele-gio ·
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Non si tratta della prima volta che sento cambi di contratto del genere. Inoltre al momento dell'acquisto, dove viene dichiarato che hanno questa possibilità? A me sembra una *clausola vessatoria*
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@stea90 ·
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Esatto, non ho mai letto nulla a riguardo, infatti molti la definiscono una vera e propria truffa.
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@alexzicky ·
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Non mi ha mai ispirato fiducia il cloud mining.
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@stea90 ·
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Ora l'ho persa del tutto anch'io.
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@jonny90 ·
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Great testimony, thank you for having shared it.
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@stea90 ·
Thanks!
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@inna-yatsuk ·
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We also suffered from HeshOcean. And I have a small investment in HashFlare. But I do not trust such clouded minings anymore ..
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@stea90 ·
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You too with Hashocean? yes, now it's over for me, when this contract ends.
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@inna-yatsuk ·
$0.03
Yes, we invested in HeshOcean. But then he became a scum. But we earned more than lost). Now we have our own mining.
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@kingyus ·
ma io credo che si e no ancora 1 anno o forse 2 per altre miniere prima che crollino in testa a tutti...ma dico io, manco un pre avviso?? bah cmq io sono nuovo in sto campo e ho messo 20$ in cryptomining.farm bah... paura!...adesso voglio entrare in genesis mining...almeno e' il piu sicuro ..sembra...paura!
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@stea90 ·
Non mi fiderei neanche di genesis ormai.
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