Cleaning up Steem trending by steevc

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Cleaning up Steem trending
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@bosman · (edited)
I don't think it even matters. Even without those "burn STEEM" posts, trending page is a boring place. It doesn't offer any value to the "normal" users. Every other post is about STEEM or some boring stuff that nobody reads. So let us circle jerk this place to death.
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@steevc ·
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What good will that do? I don't feel like giving up. If you just want to post crap then do it on Facebook ;)
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@toofasteddie ·
agree
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@slobberchops ·
It’s better than it used to be, though I agree there is a lot of STEEM content there.

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@smooth ·
This is kind of a good point. The plan is to shift more activity and attention toward communities rather than one unified Trending. If you're interested in cars or whatever, you go to the cars community and see what interests you, not what happens to interest other Steem voters. 

The reason for what you call circle jerking is that the only thing all of us really have in common is being Steem users. Once we're better able to focus on our actual interests, the experience should improve. That is the theory at least.
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@slobberchops ·
Everyone seems to be on a downer at the mo, not sure why. 

Can’t say I’m a fan of these burn posts and only time will tell whether they will achieve what they desire.

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@steevc ·
I just think that if we want to burn the rewards then do it in a way that makes trending better. Some have said that they could just vote up comments on a post, but why not promote good content instead?
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@smooth ·
Comments also show up on Trending (since a change a while back). The idea is to show whatever is getting votes (and therefore getting payouts), in part so people can downvote it if the rewards aren't deserved.

Spreading the rewards out among multiple comments can reduce Trending somewhat.
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@mstafford ·
I'm pretty sure that:
* At best, they're a waste of time and attention; and
* at worst, they're only helping those with huge stakes, and propping up the price artificially in the short term for it to come crashing down in the long term.
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@grintsch ·
You're right, the only thing that will make Steem successful is tons of quality content. I've always advocated that ideally Steem(it) would focus on getting the best content out there rather than trying to come up with fancy features that only foster greed.

Of course those posts are a double-edged sword, but for sure the rewards they earn won't be enough to have a visible effect on STEEM and SBD prices.

Long-term prices will only remain stable if buying the tokens is attractive to users. Steem hasn't been successful at coming up with the best scheme for that, and it's hard. In any case, an attractive platform in terms of Steemit (and its competitors) will sure increase the likelihood of STEEM being a good investment.

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@steevc ·
The whole idea of Steem was that good content would get the most support, but greed takes over and corrupts that. New users look at trending and are turned off by what they see. If an artists looks they will see nothing like what they do and dismiss it. We need a good mix of content visible.

If inflation is such a problem then address it with a hardfork, but if nobody is buying Steem then we get nowhere. I am buying tiny amounts.
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@shadowspub ·
too bad there wasn't some sort of filter that projects like these could use to bypass showing up on Trending in favour or better quality content.
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@steevc ·
They could use more votes on comments instead and I see they do that as well. Between them the whales and curation projects could easily improve the mix of the trending page. Either that or Steemit could adjust the algorithm that generates it. That does not require a hardfork. Set it to ignore certain voting patterns.
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@justineh ·
Agree that even though these posts are good for the platform (burning STEEM), they look ridiculous on trending for anyone who stops by to check it out. 

I suggested a few ways to do something different, as well as did others, by showcasing authors..so maybe we can come up with a simple solution. Or perhaps we need to think about why we are in a position where we need to burn so much STEEM? Does it show a deeper problem etc. 

I know using steempeak is just an easy way to not have to see this, but agree that for outsiders it’s just meh. 

I’ll bug some people.. see if we can brainstorm. 

Great post bring a fair observation of the issue, thanks for that.
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@steevc ·
Cheers. We need to keep the conversation going and find better ways. I know people care about Steem, but we are failing to make it compelling right now.
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@mstafford · (edited)
I'm skeptical that burn posts are good for anything other than those who already have large stakes. A 0.1% increase in price doesn't mean much of anything for people w/ minnow/fish/carp/whatever-small-fish-descriptor-we're-using-these-days -- but it stacks up pretty quickly for whales.

Even if the number of tokens being burned was large enough to do anything (I doubt that it is**), it would probably be better for the platform at large if it was distributed to smaller users -- hopefully increasing enthusiasm to interact on the platform.

** On an irksome note -- these posts all say "Steem experiment", yet I haven't really seen any kind of follow up post / analysis on whatever the experiment results may be (that said, I haven't really been looking either -- so maybe it's there and I just haven't seen it).

Burning tokens, to me, seems too similar to stock-buyback strategies. Rather than reinvesting profits in development / growth (i.e. increasing demand), the intent is to create scarcity (i.e. decrease supply). It's not hard to find arguments on the pro/con side -- [but I'm more persuaded by the "con" side of the argument](https://www.forbes.com/sites/aalsin/2017/02/28/shareholders-should-be-required-to-vote-on-stock-buybacks/#4cc13cf36b1e).

> Buybacks are supposed to be funded with excess cash that the business ***doesn’t need for innovation or expansion***

***italics and bolding by myself***

Considering people will line up around the block for just about any free shit you can sling at them, I would imagine that these tokens that are being burned could be utilized more effectively:

* Sign up for a STEEM account and get $10 worth of STEEM, to start your account!;
* Refer a friend that sticks around for a month (or maybe a friend that makes 20 posts) and get $10!;
* Maybe all new accounts could get slotted into an "account growth" project. Rather than voting for burn-posts, we could simply *vote on posts from new users* (perhaps after some form of verification to prevent abuse);

It's pretty sad that the best thing that people can come up with is to throw new tokens in the garbage. I would imagine that any price-gains that come from burning are artificial and short-term at best.

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I know (even) less about the SBD potato thing -- but it strikes me as kinda-sorta the same thing, but in a different process.

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Anyhow -- this turned into a short rant pretty quickly. I didn't mean to aim anything at you, either -- as I know that you're not the wizard behind the curtains.

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EDIT: I should have prefaced this entire thing with my standard disclaimer of "I don't really know wtf I'm talking about... I'm just talking."
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@justineh ·
Whether you hold 100k SP or 50SP, the price of STEEM affects your investment. 

Sure those that have invested more, earn more when they price increases but I wouldn’t say that having less of a supply of STEEM (by burning it) helps larger accounts and not smaller.. that’s a weird way to think of it. 

Currently those who have 100SP have an account value of about what.. $20.. maybe? If STEEM was worth $5 again, their account would be worth $500.. I’d say they benefit pretty well. 

I understand how one could think that distributing the inflation to smaller accounts would be better than burning it, but removing it from the supply helps everyone, especially when the demand for it is pretty low right now. As a balance in supply and demand Is key for healthy economics. 

Currently content is way down, and so are active accounts. So one might say that we have too much inflation floating around in the pool for the content we have available. So what’s more beneficial longterm, pass it out and over pay for some of the content here.. perhaps setting bad expectations and maybe even resulting in more STEEM being sold (creating downward pressure on demand and therefore price) or take it out of supply to increase the value of the STEEM we all hold?

I would say content is pretty well rewarded right now, that which I see anyways. Which is refreshing. But I also think that just throwing tokens at people .. for anything and everything... just because they are there, doesn’t help anyone longterm. 

I do think your idea using it as a referral program to attract more users or even keep them etc.. but there is no way to do that from a shared pool. As it’s not like there is just STEEM sitting there that can be transferred to people (as is currently). 

This would have to be done as an initiative or project, sort of how the potato one is doing .. using the rewards from the post to buy SBD. The same could be done to fund a referral program. In fact I think ocd is doing something like this as well. But it couldn’t be done site wide with how the system is currently set up. 

But I do appreciate the rant and the conversation.. talking is good 🙂
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@smooth · (edited)
Heh, your post on the 'con' side of stock buybacks has a link named "shareholders should be required to vote on share buybacks", _which is exactly what is happening here_! (I believe that link is there because it was the original title of the article, but it wasn't sensational enough or clickbaitish enough for what passes as journalism these days, so editors later changed it to the "ugly truth" one there now.)

> funded with excess cash that the business doesn’t need for innovation or expansion

You may notice that some of the posts which do really well and often outdraw @burnpost are precisely those posts which involve serious and successful development efforts! 

I don't think anyone really disagrees that compelling value-add is better than burning, or even that rewards that attract new users are also great (though we in fact have only a very slow rate of new users at this point), but there are many, many payouts which do not do that and are not (at least subjectively) doing anything but giving away a lot of tokens to repeated milking that the recipients then dump on the market (see any exchange transfer report since ever).
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@phgnomo ·
These posts have no effect on the price of sbd. It's just economics 101.

There will always be steem entering the system, and these posts are just that: more steem on the system.

The only way sbd can go up (and steem) is by buying what is already on the market.

And guess what? With only 65k steem you can buy the supply on Bittrex and bring the price to 1 USD.

It's easier than what they are trying to do.
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@justineh ·
The post doesn’t have anything to do with more STEEM on the system in the slightest. 

The rewards pool is set, and based on inflation. There is a set amount of inflation in the pool for each round of voting (the payout window).. whatever posts happen in that time period split the inflation pool, based on what votes (by stakeholders) were allocated to it. 

The Burn posts simply take their cut of that pool and send it to the null account, which is essentially taking it out of circulation (burning it) as it can never be sold. So, less STEEM that is in circulation, the more scarce it is and therefore more valuable. 

Yes, if no one Is buying STEEM the amount circulating doesn’t matter much.. but supply and demand is a thing, the burn post is simply addressing the supply aspect. 

I’m speaking of the Burnpost (doesn’t have anything to do with SBD). I’m not that familiar with the SPD Potato project other than they are attempting to use the STEEM to buy SBD to help the price.. sort of how you are explaining. They are actually using the rewards to purchase SBD, different than the burn post.
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@smooth · (edited)
There is no SBD entering the system right now from posts. It was suspended by the blockchain due to there being too much of it. There is some entering though SPS funding, but that stays in the SPS treasury until there are approved proposals. Right now there are a few approved proposals but not that much approved spending overall; most of the SPS funding SBD just stays in the treasury (and off the market).

The @sbdpotato posts are doing exactly what you suggest: buying what is already on the market.

> With only 65k steem you can buy the supply on Bittrex and bring the price to 1 USD.

Such big market buys don't more the price on a sustained basis. They create price spike and then it goes back down.
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@markkujantunen ·
I'll repeat what I've said before. Add the option to decline Trending to a post. Problem solved. I don't think the problem here is volunteers burning tokens from the reward pool so as to support the price but the unwanted visibility of all the burn posts. Burn posts need to be in Trending only rather infrequently.
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@steevc ·
Or move the votes to comments instead. Making trending worse helps nobody.
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@markkujantunen ·
That would help too. In fact better because no coding required.
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@mstafford ·
I feel like I've seen comments make it to trending before... I could be wrong though.
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@justineh ·
Comments also will show up in trending unfortunately
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@smooth ·
That's not really a great idea. It is contrary to how Steem works to let people unilaterally hide their posts. Every self-voting scammer would use that.

These posts may be ugly, but they are visible and people can decide whether the payouts are good for Steem (vote) or bad for Steem (downvote). Mostly voters are deciding they are good for Steem, albeit ugly.

It could certainly work to have multiple Trending pages one of which allows or self-exclusion, but that's a bit more of a complicated change.
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@markkujantunen ·
>That's not really a great idea. It is contrary to how Steem works to let people unilaterally hide their posts. Every self-voting scammer would use that.

That is true but only a very tiny minority of farm posts ends up in Trending or ever has.

I think the best policy is for those who want to support the burnpost and sbdpotato initiatives is to upvote comments set up for that purpose.
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@joshman · (edited)
Agreed, most people who say it's not a problem can't see beyond the fact they are logged in and/or don't care about trending.  For first time visitors to the front ends, trending is a showcase of what's available on steem.  What does that say about the strength of the platform when that first impression are schemes to prop up either the steem or sbd price?
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@smooth · (edited)
Maybe you shouldn't blame the messenger.

It says we need more compelling content, and currently we are struggling with a lot of crap which can't even outdraw some of the ugliest and dumbest posts on the platform (burnpost)

Some posts do outrank potato or burnpost. 

Why is that?  

Why aren't there more of those?
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@joshman · (edited)
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I've been thinking a lot about that issue.  I think trending can be engineered to some extent.  That is, a concerted effort by a group of voters to put exceptional posts there.  No exceptional posts? Well then we've got to start out with ones that are just good.  If there were a couple of these high magnitude composite votes every day on content (steem agnostic content in particular),  I believe over time the quality bar would raise itself, because people could see what is possible, and know if they exceed the effort currently presented, they have a good chance of getting a similar result.  Right now we are failing as a community to set apart the great posts when they come, and from a voting perspective they are indistinguishable from from "the ugliest and dumbest posts on the platform" as you said.  I think that is influencing morale when it comes to effort.
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@enjar ·
It's a shame they did not make a voting trail for people to join that votes 3 or 4 days after the post/comments are made in an attempt to stay off trending.

Frankly every time I look at trending I’m reminded why I should not. With every other post being automated or flat out spam. Even in the rare chance an author who is not normally up there finally breaks into top trending. It does not hold much value since a large portion of the community has learned to ignore trending. 


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@steevc ·
This is why I suggest ways to improve trending and make it useful. You can do that by changing voting patterns or the site creators can change their algorithms. Neither requires a hardfork. 
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@creativetruth · (edited)
I trust the trending page about as much as I trust an establishment politician. The only reason to check it out is to see what doesn't deserve my votes.

On the flip side, I love following curators who post their top picks of undervalued content. This is the grassroots of steem that should be most appreciated for providing value to our currency.
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@steevc ·
This is not about politics. That's a while other issue, but trending is broken. I would hope people want to fix that. Business as usual is not getting us anywhere. 
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@phgnomo ·
Here is something interesting I just found out in 5 minutes:

All you need to bring sbd to 1 USD is only 1.02 btc

![xfm9wh1hse.png](https://img.esteem.ws/xfm9wh1hse.png)

Come one... Don't tell me all the whales behind this bullshit can't afford 65k STEEM...

![28fuh6p66f.png](https://img.esteem.ws/28fuh6p66f.png)

It's way easier than making this useless posts again and again...
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@smooth ·
Nope. As I said elsewhere, that would just create a short price spike.
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@phgnomo ·
And as I said, what this potato is doing is just creating a long term spike.

Same shit, different time frame.
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@techcoderx ·
I think the only solution here is trending blacklist, so that these 2 accounts will not show on the list at all
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@steevc ·
Steemit and the other sites probably have ways to do that anyway, but I think different strategies to address these issues could be more productive. 
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@vdux · (edited)
With SMTs and other projects growing on the steem ecosystem, it's more and more likely (though not likely yet) new users will come in through other means. They'll follow a link to a post or check out a person they're interested in. Communities will decide what content is "good" and the trending page will fade away as an entry point for new people. I don't know Steeminc has this in mind, but it seems like they do.  

Try going to YouTube from a fresh browser that you've never logged in with, and you'll see lots of crap on the landing page. Without the trackers, cookies, and data it collects from you, YouTube has no idea what you like. Therefore it gives you the content that's popular or trending, even if it's crap you'd never watch. 

Only a minority come in this way. Most people come through an auto-login synced to their gmail or other service, often already auto-logged in. Hence the importance of Google (owns YouTube), who gives people lots of easy ways to access content. YouTube leverages Google's huge, integrated on-ramp to make it easy for people to "fall into the rabbit hole." Without Google, YouTube would never have succeeded, and certainly wouldn't offer an excellent U/X.

But other services don't have this luxury, they succeed by having 1) a niche audience/purpose or 2) content creators who bring followers. And, of course, an easy account-creation process (via centralized party).
 
It's about building communities and networks. And making the new account process easy. 

Community and networks. If people visit because they have a person or topic they like to follow on the platform, landing page won't matter.  
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@steevc ·
I know what you mean, but a better trending page could be good for Steem anyway. It just needs a few big accounts to change their strategy to make a difference. 
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@vdux ·
Nah. Needs communities to grow and develop around the ecosystem. 
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@captainklaus ·
Thanks for the post and observations; I just was thinking about the same, after taking the screenshot below.
To me it smells of panic (a bit like the idea of the 4 weeks power down). None of this really helps, it just gives everyone the feeling 'they are doing something', while in fact they are too lazy to go around and curate. And it made 2 accounts skyrocket their rep....
The last HF brought a reshuffle of voting behaviours, but in the end it seems like 90% fell back into the 'autovote biggest reward post' scheme. It is better than before, but far from what it could be!

**Do not forget about the authors**, without them this platform would be pretty worthless and empty, and your wallet too!

![potato.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/captainklaus/4imS8zxN-potato.png)
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@steevc · (edited)
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It should be about the content with the economics in the background, but it seems some people are too focused on the mechanics and not on actually growing the platform. At least I got some discussion going. 
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@captainklaus ·
>At least I got some discussion going.

oh yes, this is working quite well on steem nowadays, more people seem to participate in (and listen to)  these discussions.
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@bozz ·
Nice post.  Very interesting stuff. It has been a long time since I have even bothered visiting the trending page, so I didn't realize this stuff was going on.
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@steevc ·
I think we need to be aware of such issues. Our rewards will be affected by this as well as all the general abuse that goes on
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@steem-ua ·
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@leighscotford ·
$0.03
90% of all these comments are a bit above my head. But one thing i thought was a bit odd when I first used steemit, (and I’m definitely still a bit fresh on it) was the fact you could upvote posts without even opening them to take a look. I can maybe understand it slightly on art, or photography, but If this platform is all about rewarding good content and not just attempting to gain the maximum you can with tactical upvotes and posts, I’d think it would be important to read somebody’s post before deciding if you wanted to upvote it.
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@steevc ·
There's a lot of tactical voting going on, including on my posts. I would rather people read them and commented, but this is part of the freedom of Steem. I do use some automated voting to support some people, but most of manual. I just don't have time to read everything. 
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@leighscotford ·
I didn’t realise you could do automated votes.
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@edb ·
The underlying problem is that the Trending page is the Steemit front page when you're not logged in. Before it became a plate of baked potatoes, it was a circlejerk filled by posts about Steem. The Steempeak front page looks much better, since it shows the posts selected by several curation trails.

Steemit may not want to show favoritism to a number of curation trails, but at this point, it would be better to display the New page as the front page, which would show how much activity there still is.
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@steevc ·
Even the Hot page could be better than trending as I think it relates to actual activity. A lot of high-paid posts do not have many comments. I want to see what people are getting excited about. There is no perfect system, but we should be doing what we can to make Steem look good.
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