SteeveBot Starts Rewarding Steeve Community’s Most Appreciated Content by steeveapp

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· @steeveapp · (edited)
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SteeveBot Starts Rewarding Steeve Community’s Most Appreciated Content
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Dear Steemians and Steevians,

In our [last post](https://www.steeve.app/@steeveapp/steeves-business-plan) we informed you about the Steeve Upvote Program. The goal is to reward good content discovered thanks to the unique combination of Steeve’s AI-based recommendations and manual curation by the community of Steeve users.

<center><h2>We would like to announce that [SteeveBot](https://www.steeve.app/@steevebot/activity) has just started operating!</h2></center>

<center>![bot_upvote_30.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmYwPY7BD8HrgBajBTbqU8zmSAiBEMCq2RgkA6GcZaeDux)
[source](https://3dexport.com/items/2005/10/11/2697/118609/robot_hand_rigged_animated_3d_model_c4d_max_obj_fbx_ma_lwo_3ds_3dm_stl_1437326_o.jpg)
</center>

<h2>How Are Post Selected?</h2>

Aggregating opinions of Steeve community and selecting posts which are worth the upvote is a hard task. It would be simple to look just at the number of votes but we know well that the upvotes are only a fraction of the activity people do on Steem. There are also comments, resteems, and ratings (available on Steeve only). Combining these into one number that reflects the overall engagement on a post will be an ongoing task. We will be further refining it as we learn more about the activity and preferences of our users. So these are the current rules according to which SteeveBot is giving its upvotes:

<h3>Eligible posts<h3>

* Main posts only.
* Created between 3 and 6.5 days ago.
* Sorted by *engagement*.

<h3>Engagement<h3>

* Based on votes, comments, resteems, ratings and the number of views.
* Just the last action from every user counts.
* Number of views = The number of times the post has been actually clicked and opened, divided by how many times the post was shown to the user - on feed or in the explore section
* All the scores are summed up into one number: the **engagement score**.

<h2>Explanation</h2>

New posts need to gather some traction before it can be decided whether they are worth the vote. Also, we want to give you, the curators, enough time to discover all the hidden gems ;) That’s why SteeveBot considers posts at least 3 days old. The 6.5 days is there because the last 12 hours before post’s payout only downvotes are allowed by the blockchain due to security reasons.

Only one - the last one - action is taken from each user because some actions can be taken more than once - for example comments or viewing posts. In this case, it’s a prevention of abuse. But you can also change the value of your vote and rating. So the last action should reflect the user’s opinion the best.

<h2>Upvote Strategy</h2>

All eligible posts are ranked by their engagement score. The best post is selected and upvoted every 2.4 hours, the time necessary for the voting power to recover to 100%.

In future when the number of highly engaged posts and the dollar value of SteeveBot’s vote increase, we will be able to divide the vote and reward more posts.

<h2>Support Us and Delegate to @steevebot!</h2>

We have already gathered over **151100 SP** on delegations, the last batch being from

* @tarazkp ~ 500 SP
* @daan ~ 500 SP
* @samotonakatoshi ~ 100 SP

We can’t describe how grateful we are for this! With people like you in the Steeve community we can really see this project succeed.

Here are some quick SteemConnect links to delegate to @steevebot (please check that all details are filled in correctly):

[100 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=201288.244766%20VESTS) | [200 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=402576.489533%20VESTS) | [300 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=603864.734299%20VESTS) | [500 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=1006441.223832%20VESTS) | [1000 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=2012882.447665%20VESTS) | [2000 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=4025764.895330%20VESTS) | [5000 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=10064412.238325%20VESTS) | [10 000 SP](https://steemconnect.com/sign/delegate-vesting-shares?delegatee=steevebot&vesting_shares=20128824.476650%20VESTS) 

<hr>

*Disclaimer
We reserve the right to remove the vote if the content is harmful, illegal, or otherwise severely inappropriate.
We further reserve the right to change the upvote policy to better reflect our overall goal of rewarding good content and good curation.
This service is delivered on the 'best effort' basis and may be halted due to technical reasons.*

We are not lawyers, but we created these rules with the best intent. We can’t guarantee them to be fail-proof. 

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@daan · (edited)
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Great job guys! I really hope that some other Steemians delegate to @steevebot. 

Let's change that trending page!
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@tarazkp ·
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That is great news and i am interested t see what the feedback is going to be like on it over time. 

*Get posting and engaging people*

 :)

<sub>Posted using [Steeve](https://www.steeve.app/@steeveapp), an AI-powered Steem interface</sub>
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@robertoueti ·
Nice job. Let this project be more and more notice.
Cheers!
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@void ·
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Perhaps a minor thing, but note that our own posts are for now excluded. In other words, posts by @steeveapp, @hr1, @mor and @void are never enqueued for an upvote for now.

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@daan · (edited)
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Love that you're transparent about this sort of stuff. I personally wouldn't mind if your posts got upvoted by the bot, but the fact that they don't gives this initiative way more credibility!
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@trincowski ·
Very cool project. This Blockchain really needs ideas like this at the moment. 😃
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@masterthematrix ·
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I think this is the right longterm approach to enhance the quality of content published to the Steeve interface.
Great update!

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@ajks ·
Cool this is really amezing. You guys are really doing great job. Love @steevbot
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@void ·
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We should start making T-shirts with `Keep Calm and Delegate to @steevebot` :-)

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@crypto.piotr ·
Hi @steeveapp, @hr1

You're defintely doing great job so far. just few questions if you don't mind me asking:

> Main posts only.

what does it actually mean?

> Created between 3 and 6.5 days ago.

Just to make sure that I understand well. So Steeveapp will only show posts that are min 3 days old? Is there any particular reason why post need to be that old?

From my experience it's very hard to create engagement and attract any curators to posts that are already that old. I've impression that once post is older than 48h then post is already considered "old" and "not fresh enough". 

Plus I realized that majority of people reply to their comments only to posts that are 1-2 days old. Older than that and chance that your comment will even be read by author is very small. But that's just my impression. Perhaps Im wrong.

I understand that you may need 3 days to collect some data about amount of votes, resteems, comments etc. and based on it decide which posts should you promote. Is that the case?

But what about posts where even after one day amount of interactions is already very high? Why wait until it's already 3 days old?

I understand your reasons, but frankly I think you guys are shooting yourself in both legs.


> and the number of views.

Can you really monitor it? Can you access this information with Steemit api?

Cheers
Piotr
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@void · (edited)
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This is just about the upvote bot, that one waits for 3 days. Otherwise Steeve web app is not waiting for 3 days to show you recommendations, no worries.

View count is based on the data we gather through Steeve web app. It is about Steeve visitors purely, not any public API.

<sub>Posted using [Steeve](https://www.steeve.app/@steeveapp), an AI-powered Steem interface</sub>
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@crypto.piotr ·
I wish to have your programming skills @void

Envy so much.
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@void ·
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And main posts are just stories in other words, perhaps not the clearest wording.

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@crypto.piotr ·
thank you @void

it is just a little bit confusing. Im glad you clarified it. Appreciate :)

yours
Piotr
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@void ·
$0.29
__steem_keychain_requires_title__
Posts upvoted by SteeveBot can now be listed on Steeve directly in what we call `Steeve's Choice`:

<center>
![steeves_choice.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmbsPFGFeeKbr5ECJWG8eWTAMBVn4Awqnc29cfXvnK2CuH)
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<sub>Posted using [Steeve](https://www.steeve.app/@steeveapp), an AI-powered Steem interface</sub>
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@clumsysilverdad ·
$0.11
just gave 100 SP ... good things
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@hr1 ·
$0.02
Cool, thanks a lot!

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@erikah ·
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I'm a bit late, I've been busy with other things but I'm here now. I just wanted to say I love the idea and the work you're doing here. This is needed, since things went sideways on Steemit. I'm supporting this and am going to post using Steeve soon. Keep up the good work guys!

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@jaki01 ·
$0.12
> Engagement ...

- Isn't it that 'famous' users are <em>always</em> receiving a huge number of automated upvotes anyway, independently of the quality of their content? Would there be a way to count only <em>manual</em>, non-automated upvotes (of course excluding bid bot votes, too)? Probably not so easy, I guess ...

- Concerning the comments: couldn't the length of the comments play a role as well (word count)? Even better would be to analyse the structure of comments anyhow (otherwise abusing users would start to create automated long comments).

> The 6.5 days is there because the last 12 hours before post’s payout only downvotes are allowed by the blockchain due to security reasons.

That's wrong! Since HF 20 there is a <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/steem-velocity-hardfork-hardfork-20">cool-down period</a> instead:
> Velocity will address this potential scenario by modifying the lock-out to a cool-down. After Velocity, upvotes and downvotes will both be allowed during the last 12 hours of the payout period, but their strength (for the same amount of voting power) will decrease linearly from 100% to 0% over that 12-hour period.
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@hr1 · (edited)
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Hi @jaki01, thanks for your inputs and for checking Steeve out!

> Would there be a way to count only manual, non-automated upvotes (of course excluding bid bot votes, too)?

That's how we are doing it! As you say, it's not easy, it's probably not 100% yet, but we are doing our best. Also for the engagement we use only activity of our users which goes via Steeve. That also helps with identifying its genuineness.

> Concerning the comments:

Yes, our plan is to work more on the estimate of quality of engagement in the future, but we had to start somewhere and improve gradually.

> That's wrong! Since HF 20 there is a cool-down period instead:

You're right, sorry for the outdated information. But the result is the same, we don't want to make the upvote in the last 12 hours as we would be wasting our voting power.

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@jaki01 ·
Did I understand correctly: in case I log in using steeve, and then upvote anything (or only anything recommended by steeve?), steeve will create a comment and upvote it by using my voting power? Is it also correct that you disable curation reward for these votes? If 'yes', why? Then the author has not only to upvote your comment but furthermore loses his curation reward ...
(Sorry, in case I was reading too superficial and got it wrong or my memory is misleading me.)

What is the benefit for the user to use the steeve interface? Is it to find articles that he normally wouldn't have found? So actually the author benefits ... and you think that thus in the long run STEEM will benefit because good authors earn more money?
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@justjoy ·
Sounds good to me. thank you.
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