<img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-11130" src="https://psychologicanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/first-steemit-rebuttal.jpg" alt="First STeemit Rebuttal" width="960" height="720"/> I do not usually write rebuttals. Nonproductive shit-slinging generally ensues. But today I made an exception. A member of the Steemit community penned an inflammatory article condemning anarchists as "delusional" and "childish." This inspired me to provide an alternative perspective for the community by tackling his criticisms. This individual, named @kyriacos, titled his article "<a href="https://steemit.com/anarchy/@kyriacos/a-little-something-for-the-dellusional-anarchists-of-steemit">A Little Something for the Delusional Anarchists of Steemit.</a>" I found that the writing was in poor taste and not in line with Steemit etiquette. Therefore, in the spirit of playful sarcasm, I titled my rebuttal "A Little Something for the Delusional Sophists of Steemit." <h1>Compassionate Communication...My Intentions are Pure</h1> <strong>Sarcasm aside, I do not intend to address his arguments by hurling insults and waxing vitriolic. My intention is to point out the errors in his commentary, while maintaining dignity and compassionate communication.</strong> I will be quoting relevant passages directly and offering a systematic refutation. However, he does say some things I agree with, and I believe we share many commonalities. I just think he missed the mark and conflated anarchism with communism at times. Nonetheless, by the end of this rebuttal I hope to have convinced him that we may be able to get on the same wavelength, especially since he explicitly mentioned that he accepts the philosophy. At one point, he actually said: "<em>I adhere to ideals of capitalism, anarchy and free-market economics myself</em>." But if he adheres to capitalism, anarchy, and free-market economics, why did many of his complaints seem to contradict or undermine these ideas? The thrust of my rebuttal will continuously return to this glaring issue. <img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-10978" src="https://psychologicanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/giphy2.gif" alt="giphy2" width="800" height="450" /> <h1>Big Bad Government, Oh My!</h1> In the first section of the article, the author asks a common question and then refers to anarchists as having a "wet dream." He said: <blockquote>What makes you think that if tomorrow the governments around the world ceased to exist something will change? Let’s say the dollar crashes, economies fail and all of your end-of-the world wet dreams come true.</blockquote> This is an interesting question, but it represents a strawman or is directed at a specific, unnamed individual. No one said anything about believing that the world would change overnight if the government instantly evaporated. <strong>Most anarchists admit that moving the dial closer to freedom is a multi-generational process. It is not an overnight act of magic. This type of renaissance takes philosophical change and a paradigmatic shift, which anarchists are working on by educating the masses.</strong> In addition, anarchists realize that belief in authority is the foundation of government. It is the myth that seduces politicians into harming others. This is why many anarchists suggest that things would be better without governments since they have been responsible for murdering billions of people. The evidence has been fleshed out by the research conducted on <a href="https://steemit.com/anarchism/@shaneradliff/democide-the-inevitable-end-of-statism">democide</a>. Democide is the idea that governments have killed their own citizens by the droves. It is true. Public crimes have always vastly outweighed private crimes. Therefore, in the worst case scenario, we can expect some improvement to civilization in the absence of State control. Even if abolition of government did occur overnight. Lastly, kyriacos mentions that this whole notion is an anarchist's "wet dream." This remark blew my mind for a specific reason. <strong>The author admitted to accepting anarchism, which by definition means "without a ruler." In this sense, should not the collapse of government also represent his "wet dream"? </strong>Or does he prefer the sustained existence of government? I am rightfully confused. <h1>The Redistribution of Wealth and the Evil Whales</h1> In the same section, the author mentions that anarchists have a desire to "redistribute wealth." <strong>This is inaccurate. Not all "anarchists" argue for equal redistribution of wealth. Generally, that idea is aligned with communism or anarchists who trumpet socialism. </strong> This makes me wonder who kyriacos targeted with his article. As far as I can see, most of the anarchist population on Steemit consists of <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism">anarcho-capitalists</a> who do not vie for wealth redistribution. In the language of anarcho-capitalism, that is just another term for extortion or robbery. I hope that this knowledge reminds the author that we adamantly agree with his capitalistic sentiment. <strong>In our view, redistribution of wealth is anathema to anarchism.</strong> In the next section, the author continues elaborating on his idea that wealth distribution is the problem. At this point, I am flabbergasted that the Strawman is still standing. But I am likewise optimistic that once kyriacos reads this post he will realize that we are the same side. <img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-185" src="https://psychologicanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/black-anarchy-symbol.jpg" alt="black anarchy symbol" width="501" height="501" /> He continued: <blockquote>"Steemit will have whales, Ethereum will have whales. All new paradigms will have whales. It is not about corporations or whales. Is about a few individuals that make shit happen and bunch of others watching shit happen. Big corporations might brought wars, misery and all that you like to parrot about but they also brought innovation, fought poverty, raised life expectancy by a three fold and improve daily our lives."</blockquote> I am happy to say that I agree with the good things that corporations have done. As a proponent of anarcho-capitalism and <a href="https://steemit.com/anarchism/@sterlinluxan/anarchy-and-emotion-toward-a-softer-aesthetic-for-freedom" target="_blank">relational anarchism</a>, I think that these businesses have mostly been victims of government. As Frank Underwood eloquently stated in one <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_(U.S._TV_series)" target="_blank">House of Cards</a> episode, "You may have all the money (speaking about a corporation whale), but I have all the men with guns (talking about the fact that he is a politician)." <strong>In this regard, most corporations just attempt to survive in a predatory environment, but it is also good to bear in mind that this does not exonerate the ones that have done outright evil, such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi" target="_blank">Blackwater </a>or other government-created monstrosities.</strong> To summarize, not all whales are evil. And no self-respecting anarchist is anti-whale merely because whales are rich. The anarchist just realizes that any violence or social disparity that crops up as a result of wealth is a direct byproduct of government coercion and economic intervention. Government is always the epicenter of suffering and depredation, not money; I cannot emphasize this point enough. <h1>Better, Freer Money...</h1> In the next section, the author takes the stance that Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency will not save humanity.<strong> In a bold claim, he suggests this that cryptocurrencies and fiat are equally bad:</strong> <blockquote>"At least with your money in the bank you know you are being scammed daily. You know is debt. You know it's a fairy tale that goes round and round. With cryptos, same thing happens plus you need to have the know-how not to get hacked."</blockquote> Here the author eludes to the "same thing" happening with cryptographical monies, but he does not actually provide an argument or reasoning as to why. The truth of the matter is that no one has to worry about being "scammed" with cryptocurrencies, at least not in the same manner. <strong>The point of of crpytocurrency is that you can be your own bank. An individual does not have to worry about a middleman freezing his funds. He does not have to worry about exorbitant fees. And he gets to keep the keys to himself</strong>. With all of these anti-authority features, it is a wonder how the author even came up with this position. Cryptocurrencies were purposely designed by anarchists as an attack on government and as a way to liberate mankind. I would invite the author to read the work of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk" target="_blank">cypherpunks</a>, namely Timothy May, who outlined the purpose of cryptographic protocols. <img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-11071" src="https://psychologicanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/giphy3.gif" alt="giphy3" width="256" height="188" /> <h1>The Anarchist Who Loves Government, the Problem of Sheep, and a Compassionate Goodbye</h1> The author concluded his argument by suggesting that people are sheep and follow regardless, and this is what creates the governments, banks, and other vile institutions. <blockquote>"The problem is not the government, not the banks and not the corporations. The problems you see around you are created from people being sheep. The same mentality that makes you follow scam artists and sensationalist speakers in order to make them...whales because YOU cannot be an individual. Whales that you will be complaining about in the future."</blockquote> This concluding statement boggles my mind, because it totally misses the point of anarchism. First he says that "the problem is not the government." <strong>I want to return the reader's attention to his earlier comments. He said he accepts anarchism. Generally, if someone accepts a philosophy that rejects rulers, they will not turn around later and claim that rulers are not the problem.</strong> As a final point, there is nothing morally wrong or contradictory for anarchists to follow leaders. Sometimes people just need to have the ideas articulated differently, or be close to people who have visions of the future.<strong> So long as these leaders are not coercing anyone or using an iron fist to compel followers, then there is no issue.</strong> In this sense, being a "sheep" is a nonargument. It is true that the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality" target="_blank">herd mentality</a> can further entrench governments and make people more acculturated, but the reality is that people can be enlightened to new ways of functioning. As the author already knows, many of these "sheep" who follow whales choose not condone violence and bloodshed. They follow, but they do not harm others. All that needs to happen is for anarchist leaders to continue educating people on new cultural principles, and this is how an anarchist society can and will blossom. This means that being "sheep" is not the sole problem, the idea that violence is acceptable to solve social problems is one of the most preeminent conundrums of our time. <b>And I hope that @kyriacos can begin to see that. I want him to know that anarchists are not his enemy.</b> They want what is best for everyone, especially the individual. That is why I hope that he will accept my rebuttal in peace and consider the plight of the anarchist. Anarchists are not children, and certainly not delusional. <img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-8565" src="https://psychologicanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/salvaging-marriage.jpg" alt="salvaging marriage" width="1363" height="1141" /> <hr /> My name is Sterlin. Follow me @ <a href="https://psychologic-anarchist.com/" target="_blank">Psychologic-Anarchist</a>. I also run the<a href="https://www.facebook.com/psychologicanarchist/" target="_blank"> Psychologic-Anarchist Facebook page</a> and produce many <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/psychologicanarchist" target="_blank">YouTube videos</a>. My interests lie in the intersection of counseling psychology and anarchism. I write about the depredations of psychiatry, and also the new philosophy of compassionate anarchism. We have a large community devoted to discussing psychology and relational voluntaryism. <img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-10398" src="https://psychologicanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/me-drawing.jpg?w=225" alt="Me Drawing" width="225" height="300" />
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Great post and I appreciate you sharing. Need time for the details to sink in and maybe a re-read or two lol. What I am curious about though, being new to this myself, is if you think the terms anarchy or anarchism hurt the movement at all? I have always tread a bit away because of the mental imagery evoked by the words.... It wasn't until I read a post where @larkenrose referred to it as voluntaryism that it was seen in a different light and the purpose/message absorbed. Just curious to hear your thoughts.
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I like "Consentism" which is a newer one I've heard.
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I am also new to this and at times confused by all the arguments, but find it fascinating. The term "anarchist" did put me off too.
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Someone doesn't understand the difference between currency and money lol. But most people don't, although it seems the people who have an understanding of finances here is higher then average. Excellent read dude thanks.
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> The anarchist just realizes that any violence or social disparity that crops up as a result of wealth is a direct byproduct of government coercion and economic intervention. This x100. Good ideas don't require force. Healthy, win/win interactions don't require force. Compassionate, relational humanity does not require force. Thanks for writing this, Sterlin. Very well done. As for humans being followers by default, as we discussed in a Facebook message, I do think we all have to strive to break out of primitive, tribalistic thinking. I see it in the liberty movement just as everywhere else. We get behind our favorite celebrities and allow them to significantly influence our views, often without even realizing it. In-group, out-group stuff, and all that. The key, I think, is remaining rational and being willing to find new non-coercive leaders at any moment if the current ones we follow don't continue to benefit us or work towards creating the world we all want to live in (I can think of a few notable, popular so-called "anarchists" who fit this description of what I call "falling off the wagon," but I will not name them here).
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Thanks for the considered response, Luke. And I agree completely with this idea of competing leaders. So long as leaders are not coercive, can can simply follow new ones. We all have a sense of wanting to connect with others and find popular people who share our principles. There is nothing wrong with that so long as the truncheon and gun don't get involved. Super important.
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@lukestokes here is my response https://steemit.com/anarchism/@kyriacos/reclaiming-anarchy-from-bullshiters-a-response-to-the-lies-of-sterlinluxan
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Youre the man Sterlin!
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The anarcho-capitalist version of wealth redistribution is called the free market.
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I disagree. Wealth redistribution implies the use of force, such as through taxation or other forms of coercion. I see your point, though.
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I don't think wealth redistribution implies the use of force. For that, you can say 'forced wealth redistribution'.
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I'll be interested in seeing how @kyriacos (henceforth, K) responds to this post. I don't think you two fully understand eachother's statements. For instance, K's closing statement about government not being the problem is, in a sense, correct: governments (being nothing but crime bosses and their thuggish enforcers) aren't the problem, the problem is the people who support them, or simply fail to stand against their "might makes right" mentality. These are the sheep, the people who refuse to be Individuals. The governments, the banks, the corporations... these are simply the natural manifestations that occur when people refuse to take individual responsibility and instead permit someone else to define their morality for them. I think K has some issues in his understanding of cryptocurrency, though. Indeed, the point and purpose of crypto is to eliminate centralized control and systematic scamming. Remember, if I laid out all the rules for you, and then followed those rules to the letter, then what I did cannot possibly be a scam. A scam necessarily involves deception.
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Indeed, but I actually addressed that. I said that the "sheep" or herd mentality is a problem, but regardless of that government's also crop up because people believe in the superstition of authority. In this sense, it is much about education as it is about blindly following. And even if these institutions do emerge as a result of blind following, the anarchist drive to educate the masses is the remedy for this problem. In this sense, there is no issue of "human nature," which seems to be implied in his piece. Thanks for the response, @modprobe. I appreciate it.
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Eh, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, since I thought could see some reason in his OP, but I'm unable to discern any sanity in any of his responses. I can only conclude that he's either trolling, or he simply can't be bothered to clearly express his thoughts except when insulting people who can produce comprehensible prose. xD
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I wrote a response. He really doesn't understand anything to what I said. Really @sterlinluxan. The "anarchist" doesn't do shit. Just because someone sais he is something he is not immediately under a flag or group. Many people try to fix problems with the state. not just the "anachist". many people try to educate the masses. get a grip of yourself with this form of preaching. You are speaking as if you discovered sliced bread
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@modprobe here it is https://steemit.com/anarchism/@kyriacos/reclaiming-anarchy-from-bullshiters-a-response-to-the-lies-of-sterlinluxan
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Such a confused muddle. Mostly lots of contradictions, although, I do suspect, and I think you do as well, that much of the apparent confusion stems from his identification of, apparently, all anarchists(except himself?) as anarcho*communists*.
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Indeed. That is what I thought, but he seems to have a vendetta against @dollarvigilante, who is a known anarcho-capitalist.
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Oh, I see. Well, Jeff has a certain way of drawing certain types of people into the room, frothing at the mouth and proclaiming whatever their personal bible says :P
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I adhere to an-cap ideals. I am not an anarchocommunist. There is no contradiction at all. Learn how to make deductive reasoning. I can be an anarchist and still refute that the state (abstract concept) is not responsible. how the heck do you people think? do you actually consider yourselves critical thinkers?
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excellent, true and calmly stated @sterlinluxin... you´re a more patient man than most
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Thank you, ma'am.
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Great post, Sterlin. "Delusional Sophists" is right. The arguments in his peice were weak and meant to discourage. While yours is robust and definitive as you don't attack or use fallacies but merely use logic and reason. Well done.
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Thanks a lot, friend. I tried to remain calm, use compassion, but rebut the arguments to the best of my ability.
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I didn't see any refutal in regards to anything. stop being a sheeple. think for yourself
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@kyriacos: Is it possible for you to ever communicate with someone without calling them names or trying to demean them? (waiting for response, which I fully expect to be "F*ck you vigilante!"
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Well written. I am not going to delve into you or @kyriacos posts. I will say that most of the Anarchists on steemit do seem to identify with Anarcho-Capitalism, but there are also a fair amount of Anarcho-Communists on here. What is amazing is on steemit they can have rather civil discourse. I'm sure you know how rare that is. I am an ancap myself, though I've engaged with some pretty scholarly Ancoms on here such as @bacchist. If you want an interesting and potentially challenging debate send him an invite. :) He is a good guy though. In reality, all Anarchists want to end government as we know it. We just have different perspectives on what we believe will make society function in a more free way once governments are gone. You are correct though, this is a slow generational process. A lot needs to happen and there needs to be a lot of conditioning removed.
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I am an ancap. You need to read my post again I think.
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Or perhaps you need to read the comment you replied to again. ***wink*** <blockquote>Well written. I am not going to delve into you or @kyriacos posts.</blockquote> Which means nothing I wrote was aimed at you or anything you wrote. :)
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You sir, only post about yourself. And your first post about somebody other than yourself is this ? @kyriacos posts about many different subjects and provided **facts** and **interpretations** >Anarchists are not children, and certainly not delusional. This is your contribution. And we have #anarchy all over trending. That will **not** help mass-adoption. I'm glad, you didn't tag this [PHILOSOPHY](https://steemit.com/philosophy/@felixxx/an-introduction-to-philosophy)
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After going back to @kyriacos post: Nowhere in his article or in the comment section, did anybody use your name.
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I never said he did? This was a rebuttal to his ideas, in order to provide people with an alternative view. What is the issue?
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I had initially thought that he was speaking more in defense of real anarchists who are slightly more advanced in their reasonings, thought processes, and understanding of the system.. However, upon re-reading I see the faults in the article as well the intended use of "vigilante" he mentioned several times - I didn't catch that on the first read. With that said, I think there's a lot of validity to some of his talking points, ESPECIALLY the idea that this starts with us. For example - and I'm not the best writer - but I wrote a post, [How I Created My Own Anarchy](https://steemit.com/anarchy/@xvickx/how-i-created-my-own-anarchy), which touched on us needing to take our own action initiative towards anarchism in our daily lives because without it, we're not really gaining any experience in the philosophy or lifestyle itself. In all reality, simply saying "I'm an Anarchist" is about as valuable as saying "I'm a Republican". Identifying with something is a lot different than practicing something, and if we're not practicing it, it's not much more than a nice idea. We can place blame, point fingers, have ideas, etc.. It's only when we begin to implement these ideas that we see real progress. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your rebuttal, and as always, I commend you on your ability to continually react with calmness and class.
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i specifically pointed out "individualist anarchism" if you bothered to read my whole analysis @xvickx
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Excellent as usual @sterlinluxan. You echoed many of the same ideas I had when reading his article. Great work!
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Sterlin you thoughts and your researches are much different from all other steemiants. you really think in deep and that why your article every sentence itself need deep intention to understand it, the whole post you have summarized in this sentence nice thoughts, "The problem is not the government, not the banks and not the corporations. The problems you see around you are created from people being sheep"
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I feel like writing and sharing ideas would be so much easier if people would learn how to avoid using strawman, ad hominem, and tu quoque arguments! Thanks for the well constructed read @sterlinluxan!
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100%. I feel like his post really transgressed on Steemit etiquette as the tone of the post was condensending, and he really didn't have enough understanding of anarchism and the philosophy to level some of the critiques. Thanks for the comment!
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Great rebuttal. I've often thought that every single argument someone makes against anarchy is a projection. Theory holds up here, all the way down to his title. It's strange to me the way some people accuse anarchists of having a "wet dream" for the dollar collapsing and economic problems etc. Quite the opposite, we'd rather there was more sane behavior in the world so that this stuff didn't happen. That we recognize the consequences doesn't mean that we for some reason like it. (Statists might get turned on by a few bankers having complete control over so much of the world's wealth, I'm not sure.) https://i.imgsafe.org/20d7e82982.jpeg
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here is how you to a rebutal @full-measure https://steemit.com/anarchism/@kyriacos/reclaiming-anarchy-from-bullshiters-a-response-to-the-lies-of-sterlinluxan
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Here is my quick reply to your pathetic response http://i62.tinypic.com/16isbhi.png My post was directed to people like you that seem to have rebranded 101 anarchism into their own personal self promotion. I read the whole article. You refuted nothing to my claims. You only make assertions of things you think you understand. I am an anarchist living in a state country much like all of you anarchists. I operate under my own rules based on free association. Yes anarchists, the internet can allow you to live freely in a anarchic-like state. No need to whine. If people want to have a state then let them have a state. I adhere mostly to anarchocapitaist values. I won't be violent against the State. You seem to be anarcho-communist. You see the "demon" of state chasing you. Too bad. You are dellusional. The "State" or "religion" or "science" have not "killed" anyone. People kill people under different excuses. Your logical fallacy is based on overgeneralisation. Please rephrain from playing smart-ass with me. You are not in your safe space in facebook anymore. These kind of 101 arguments won't work. I can be an anarchist and still aknowledge that the state is not the problem. Seriously take a philosophy class and learn basic logic principles. I don't even need to expand on this. I am an atheist and believe that religion is not the problem. Usually this mistake of false association is made from noob atheists and/or noob anarchists. I never said that anarchists are the enemy. I said some anarchists are dellusionals. including you, the dollar vigilante and any other groupie with an edgy name that gained some publicity due to amateurs running behind them. You discovered the idea and combined it with your college major. Whoopy fucking doo. Please make an actual argument. Stop boring me with nonsense. > I found that the writing was in poor taste and not in line with Steemit etiquette. Therefore, in the spirit of playful sarcasm, I titled my rebuttal "A Little Something for the Delusional Sophists of Steemit." At least I am not not writing bullshit. I prefer honesty rather than savoir vivre. Also do learn what sophism is. I bet is an epithet someone else threw at you because a look at your articles precesely demonstrates that you are one. Throwing it back at me doesn't make it your case any better. I speak purely on objective critique with logical arguments. You use quote-mining and false associations.
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I really thought the community discouraged these kind of responses. I was really hoping for something a little more cordial and substantive, with a less patronizing tone. This saddens me, as my intent was not to attack you, but to inform and create an opportunity for dialogue.
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I thought you like anarchy. Now you speak for the whole community anarcho-cheerleader?
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@modprobe this was the response I got. ;(
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Dude. refute this. I can be an anarchist and still not hold the state responsible. Are you really that DENSE?
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>I am an anarchist living in a state country much like all of you anarchists. I operate under my own rules based on free association. Yes anarchists, the internet can allow you to live freely in a anarchic-like state. No need to whine. If people want to have a state then let them have a state. I adhere mostly to anarchocapitaist values. I won't be violent against the State. You seem to be anarcho-communist. You see the "demon" of state chasing you. Too bad. You are dellusional. This just seems like a wild strawman. I'm an anarchist, and I don't dispute that I'm generally free to associate with people as I want to. I doubt Sterlin or any other specific person did either. It doesn't mean there's anything good about aggression wherever it does exist. I don't even see what point you're trying to make or why this is worth pointing out. Nobody is whining, people are advocating a consistent moral outlook on the world. Which btw can translate to their personal relationships, how they treat others and whether they put themselves in situations that aren't egalitarian to themselves. Ya they can have a state. They just can't force you to be a part of it if you don't choose to join. And FWIW, where the state does have an impact will often have a compounding effect. Like public schools and prisons and war. So it isn't as simple as "look, I'm free 99% of the time", if the 1% of the time spirals into a whole host of new consequences that are no longer directly performed by the state.
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Are you just throwing the word "strawman" in order to make a point? Do you even know what strawman is? A state can be a voluntary place. People vote for it right? So what is your problem if they want to be abused? There is no "consistency" in morals. morals are subjective. everyone is different. you are talking bullshit regarding the rest. neo-anarchist mind in all its glory. propaganda over propaganda.
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Everyone remember that I called the nonproductive shit-slinging. And it happened. Lol
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Its because you are lying. Blatant lies. You haven't refuted anything. I don't blame you as much as your pathetic followers
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The posts and comments are all really passionate. What we need to do is use that passion to support each other. We all want something better. Look inwards before outwards.
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Kinda funny that @kyriacos says that all anarchists are a bunch of children. But, says he himself is one. And then proceeds to be the only one acting like a child having a tantrum in the comments section. Self project much @kyriacos?
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Unlike a coward like you, trying to bury the opposition down by flagging @dollarvigilante I am actually debating with actual arguments. I pointed "some" anarchists (like yourself) act children. Try to use some gray matter, you know, as much as you use for bleaching out your douche persona. Haven't seen you done anything other than cheerleading back and forth with @sterlinluxan. You are a joke to anarchy. And look at me again, creating traffic for him while you avoid conversation in my own post. You are both pathetic indeed
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Great analysis of the original author's points. Thank you for sharing a compassionate response as a critique. I'm learning a lot from you and bettering my online communication skills when dealing with people who may not have worked out their philosophies just yet (which is most of us, especially when we get emotional). On the point of cryptocurrency, I just started learning about it in the past 5 days, and it is amazing what this technology (on a blockchain platform) can do for humanity. From my understanding, I see blockchain as a secure program that basically gets coded with the rules that all those who participate in the program consent to. So already, this is a voluntary platform that is near impossible to hack, and that is completely transparent to its users. That's already an extreme improvement over the current system of corrupt politicians and bankers. Now currency, whether fiat or electronic, is basically money made out of thin air. It's all about the people's trust. It's just a number that we can agree on to exchange goods and services. Except fiat currency has no limit, creating inflation and deflation based on the manipulation of those who are in charge. Cryptocurrency on the other hand, is closer to the system we had with gold, meaning it has been programmed to act like a tangible resource that holds value, eliminating the entire inflation issue. It is still made out of "thin air" in a sense, but it remains a step above bartering. Once people start using it and believing in it's purpose of exchanging value without a middleman, it will actually revolutionize our entire economic system. I think we have been taught to understand what money is the wrong way and it is hard for many people to accept that it is truly nothing but a number (because the Fed has been controlling all of us with it making us rely on it heavily for survival). Please correct me if I misunderstood anything.
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"The idea that violence is acceptable to solve social problems is one of the most preeminent conundrums of our time," and unacceptable as far as we're concerned. The use of force infringes upon one's inherent rights to be secure in their person and property, and it has unfortunately become too commonplace. We're here to raise that standard, and we appreciate that you are as well! Hats off to your gentlemanly ways, @sterlinluxan--very classy. Calling out ignorance and shining light upon it improves the entire community.
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Thank you so much GardenofEden. Much appreciated. Absolutely correct, I only want to clarify understanding of these ideas.
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Here is a proper response mr lying anarcho-bullshiter. https://steemit.com/anarchism/@kyriacos/reclaiming-anarchy-from-bullshiters-a-response-to-the-lies-of-sterlinluxan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTdW7UtoYQg
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The most polite rebuttal I have seen on the internet.
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Can someone tell me why @kyriacos got so many votes? I up vote considerably on the Steemit platform. I didn't have any impulse to upvote his article. I found it to be generally angry, hostile and not well written. Why would @ned upvote this @kyriaco article?
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@catchfire Because I actually write the truth if you cared to see my post. you imbecile politically correct sheeple
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Up voted and now I'm following you. "Ba! ba!" Compassionate anarchy because all lives matter ![All Lives Matter](http://canada.host-ed.me/images/All-Lives-Matter-steemit.png) https://steemit.com/lives/@leprechaun/all-lives-matter
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Very good rebuttal!
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<div> <p> This post has been linked to from another place on Steem. </p> <ul> <li> <a href="https://steemit.com/anarchism/@kyriacos/reclaiming-anarchy-from-bullshiters-a-response-to-the-lies-of-sterlinluxan"> Reclaiming Anarchy from Bullshiters - A Response to the Lies of @sterlinluxan </a> by <a href="https://steemit.com/@kyriacos"> @kyriacos </a> </li> </ul> <p> Learn more about <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@ontofractal/steem-linkback-bot-v0-3-released"> linkback bot v0.3</a> </p> <p>Upvote if you want the bot to continue posting linkbacks for your posts. Flag if otherwise. Built by @ontofractal</p></div>
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