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> People who can’t afford to pay $100 to start, probably shouldn’t have a community anyways. **Wtf?** What a horrible mindset to have. Here I was loving how open & accessible things like the internet, open software, blockchain + crypto, and Steem included, made things. I'm here to champion for a more open & accessible space, not another *"pay up you fucker"* type of environment. Feels so strange that you think this way since your very own words: > If I want to launch a business in the U.S., it can range from hundreds to tens of thousands of dollars, depending on the structure of the business you launch. Are the **exact** reason I want Steem to be different. The current method sucks. Break down the barriers, allow anyone who wants to create a community come in and create one! Plus, I think with the whole "name-squatting" thing you're missing a critical ancedote: **Reddit** Creating sub-reddits is free, and Reddit has about a bajillion more users than Steem. Even still, it's not *too* hard to get a name you want on there. *** All that being said, if the price was raised to *$1 - $3*, I wouldn't be opposed. Especially if it went to the dao, that was a good idea.
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I agree with you. >People who can’t afford to pay $100 to start, probably shouldn’t have a community anyways. That is a very pompous and airheaded statement. Most of the world is poor. Lack of money doesn't mean lack of ideas, potential, or value. This statement really has me questioning what kind of person you are. Wow. Disgusting. > Plus, I think with the whole "name-squatting" thing you're missing a critical ancedote: Reddit Creating sub-reddits is free, and Reddit has about a bajillion more users than Steem. Even still, it's not too hard to get a name you want on there. This. Steem is already dominated by whales. Raising the barrier to entry on anything is completely asinine. The community is already small. How do you expect to grow when there are free alternatives out there. I'm really questioning how much thought other than greed and stupidity went into the OP's post.
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**100%** Always be careful when making broad-stroke callouts on large groups of people. OP is apparently able to drop hundreds of dollars to startup every little idea they have, good for them. **Many people can't.** We should encourage the *"start from nothing, rise to greatness"* ideology on here, not shout against it. That almost feels opposite to the entire idea of crypto, blockchain, and the internet as a whole!
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Dear @stuffbyspencer, @treepi I unfortuantelly agree with @khaleelkazi. We cannot expect to keep receiving great things done and pay pennies. That would never allow to cover dev expenses. Simple as that. > Are the exact reason I want Steem to be different. The current method sucks. Break down the barriers, allow anyone who wants to create a community come in and create one! That's absolutely nightmare. If anyone could do it, then you can be sure that serious businesses will avoid STEEM at all cost. Simple as that. Yours, Piotr
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I can't disagree with this more. Open-source software has proved this model already. Free things =/= bad things. This is the internet, notorious for fast & scalable & lowcost solutions. There are legit money-making subreddits out there which, again, are **completely free to setup**. Paying for communities isn't helping cover dev expenses as is. Burning STEEM doesn't feed developers, at least not directly enough. We need to think of a new way to go about that, communities should not be in that discussion.
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