New Steem? Old Steem? by tarazkp

steem · @tarazkp · Jul 7 '19

$51.39

New Steem? Old Steem?

I have been out of the game for a little bit but @whatsup started a marketing drive with the idea of #newsteem replacing the old and while I understand and appreciate the sentiment, I disagree.

## There is no *New Steem.*
&nbsp;
![image.png](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmNsWTK8Gt2t6cP9xGE2ciA16J2deDTWQYDJToiVkkk4aj)

## #34,465,686
&nbsp;
That is how many blocks make up *Steem* and they run in order immutably back to the first Steem block and have gone forward from that point every 3 seconds. There is no New Steem and, there is no
Old Steem.

## There is just Steem.
&nbsp;

As said, I understand the marketing sentiment but what I would like to draw attention to is that while there is only one Steem, it is in a constant state of flux, it is continuously changing, and with every 3 second block, more data is added to it, more words, more ideas, more accounts, more votes, more *opportunity.*

Every 3 seconds, the Steem blockchain changes slightly under the power of thought, the laws of supply and demand and, the freedom for any individual to press a word forever into the foundation that is the Steem blockchain. There is no new Steem, *it is Steem evolution.*

## Or revolution.
&nbsp;
But this isn't a revolution of victors and the defeated, it is a revolution where the past shows a history and steps toward the present moment that will never be wiped away for as long witnesses keep processing blocks. The revolution is in the blockchain itself, a history of people working toward and away from each other, collaborating and undermining simultaneously to find a new path through into the next block, and every 3 seconds Steem evolves a little further.

## Every 3 seconds is a new opportunity.
&nbsp;
A new opportunity to add your voice, a new opportunity to change a mind, a new opportunity to grow. Grow an account, an experience, an education, a portfolio, a life. An opportunity to connect, cooperate, develop and influence the future. *Every 3 seconds.*

## This isn't New. It the only way Steem can.
&nbsp;

These 34.5 million blocks delivered 3 seconds apart contain billions of pieces of information and hundreds of millions of relationships between people, words shared, jokes shared, pain shared. The entire history of the community can be tracked in 3 second lots - *every post, every comment, every vote.*

And each interaction, each transaction adds to the story that is Steem and it is not a new story at all. It is a story of life as it has always been, people trying to create a world where they feel they can not only survive, but thrive - in a community of interpersonal connections. Hopes, dreams, wants and necessities pulled together to negotiate an experience through the complication that is human experience, a world filled with scarcity, greed, charity and love.

## The evolution is planned.
&nbsp;
Every agreement and argument builds the conversation toward the next 3 second block, the next account created, the next account abandoned. Every word adds to the mass that is and can inspire or turn away depending on who's eyes fall upon it. Every transaction takes us as a community a fraction closer to solutions that will spill out past the borders of the blockchain and affect the world in which we walk.

This is what decentralized governance and ownership demands, a community of people who will work toward solution, work toward a path driven by what they can offer to the market, and take from the market. Supply and demand reigns, it is a free market where undefined good and bad actors are constantly creating tensions and behaving in opposition in a power struggle that raises concern, finds answer - only to create more problems to be solved.

## Bit by bit, 3 seconds at a time
&nbsp;
We can change the entire world in 3 seconds. We just need enough information on each block to evolve the blockchain, develop experiences and provide a place for the many to build values of any kind they choose. Some may seek fortune, others fame, some may just look for a kind voice with which to spend a few words. Steem is what you make it for you, Steem is what I make it for me.

There is no old Steem and New Steem. There is past and there is future. There are the blocks that are irreversible, and there are all the blocks that are to come.

## 3 seconds at a time.
&nbsp;
![image.png](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmWN2GLUwcw7BECFV1dk4MFmheBvRB1qzWZVeAey91iSJ4)

## *I invest my time on Steem.*
You are free to do as you please.
&nbsp;
Taraz
[ a Steem original ]

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@whatsup · Jul 7 '19

$0.12

The people who are not here are not interested in our math.
They don't care about 3 seconds and technical details.
And they often will not care about libertarian values.

I guess it is the same argument as...  My body is different today as it was yesterday.  Is it new?

It will remian the same and carry forward all the same issues of yesterday.  Unless I change my behavior.

Keep doing what you are doing and you will keep getting what you are getting.

👍 hijosdelhombre, edicted, tarazkp, steemitqa, markkujantunen, sepracore

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@tarazkp · Jul 7 '19

>Keep doing what you are doing and you will keep getting what you are getting.

Have you ever seen an identical block? It has been changing for years here. Changing in a thousand different ways daily, including what might be a marketing campaign. It doesn't matter whether you or I think we know what is needed because, it is up to the community to do what is needed in a thousand different ways. That is the power of decentralization, and its flaw.

👍 whatsup, milky-concrete

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@steemitqa · Jul 7 '19

A blockchain is only as good as its users. Behavior should be changed when necessary. A blockchain is worthless if nobody cares about it and it could go every 3 seconds not caring about us.  Both can exists . Behavioral change and code.

👍 hijosdelhombre

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4 replies

@eonwarped · Jul 7 '19

$0.03

From a marketing perspective, doing the same thing is not productive, is how I interpreted that quote.

We might know it as the same steem blockchain, but the world around us probably thinks nothing ever changes around here. Same old garbage system. Which is true to some extent.

Anyway, embrace the movement, don't get left in oldsteem ;)

#newsteem

👍 tarazkp, whatsup, evanvanness

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7 replies

@baah · Jul 8 '19

Those people, that don't care, they have absolutely nothing of value to add. Basic math. Saying that we should pander to a complete zero as if they could add any value to the community is complete nonsense. Let's bend over backwards to make sure that those who don't care are interested in us.

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@movingman · Jul 7 '19

Beautiful!

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👍 tarazkp

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@tarazkp · Jul 7 '19

Thank you, it is appreciated.

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@pouchon · Jul 7 '19

I like the way you disagree with your steemian. 
It show the degree of wisdom we have in this blockchain. 
I did not understand the old or new steem. 
Just a marketing sting!
Your explanation as a whole put steem where it needs to be. 
*great blockchain*
Keep on postin 

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👍 tarazkp

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@tarazkp · Jul 7 '19

The beauty of Steem is that disagreement is actually quite irrelevant as each is able to forge their own path and still add value independently to the Steem blockchain. Two projects can be in competition and still add value to the community, even to those who do not use or know about the projects at all. It is a massive organism and is growing daily.

👍 milky-concrete, baah

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@veryspider · Jul 7 '19

Very pretty post <3 It makes me happy, thinking about those 3 seconds bouncing around, carrying all those blocks, and within them, all of our Steemit life and experiences, friendships and creativity, and everything else, too :)

👍 tarazkp, milky-concrete

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@tarazkp · Jul 7 '19

I like the idea of the community story being collected silently below us. One day, all of these relationships will be visualized in a way that demonstrates just how a community works and hopefully, how a successful community develops.

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@hijosdelhombre · Jul 8 '19 (edited)

Machine time or Steem time? 

### Reminder: We don't live in 2019. We live in block #34,467,817. 

Ernst Junger wrote about the history of time, every civilization with the advance of the technique, the measurement of time was modified. **I would not be surprised if at some point we talk about blocks after invention of Bitcoin or Steem as we do with anno Domini (AD) and before Christ (BC)**.

Maybe in every new era we need to come to a new social contract that involves lot of social conventions in order to create new paths for the progress of human kind civilization. 

I enjoyed reading your beautiful words.

👍 tarazkp

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@tarazkp · Jul 8 '19

The idea of changing time units is pretty cool. I had a friend at uni who broke every activity into 30 minute lots for example, gym was 3 units (1.5hr). It helped him schedule better.

I do think that in order to change significantly, a lot of the conventions change alongside as the old models are no longer well fit to society. It happens slowly though, people live to hold onto tradition, even if they are no longer relevant or perhaps, harmful.

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@edicted · Jul 8 '19

# There is no new-Steem

![zuul.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRTg7ZCmeEHbqK3i49eZyYEGmvanE9GaHtzJ2VqdabTPf/zuul.jpg)

👍 tarazkp, onealfa.leo

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@tarazkp · Jul 8 '19

Lol. I haven't seen zuul in ages.

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@newageinv · Jul 8 '19

History is important as it allows us to evolve and adapt to new behaviors and even codes changes.  However, each reset is good to celebrate with some marketing and hype so while it is the same Steem, a #newSteem perspective doesn’t hurt.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://partiko.app/referral/newageinv)

👍 tarazkp

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@tarazkp · Jul 8 '19

No, newsteem doesn't hurt at all, but to have new, old steem needs to be known. For a new user, old steem is always largely irrelevant and someone coming in post hf21 will know 50/50, downvote pool, sps and convergent curve better than the block prior. Many users even now font care about these things, nor will they later.

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@organduo · Jul 8 '19

They try to get the message across that earlier Steem was abused with ninja-mined stake. Now it's a much healthier ecosystem.

👍 tarazkp, onealfa.leo

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@tarazkp · Jul 8 '19

More outward facing content would help build visibility I think. It is difficult though because a lot of what earns isn't what outsiders may be interested in.

👍 organduo, milky-concrete

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@organduo · Jul 8 '19

We need more powerful investors in niche communities then...

👍 tarazkp

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@gadrian · Jul 8 '19

$0.04

I understand the idea you are transmitting in the post. Steem is continuously changing, with every block, and we also need to parse all blocks to understand its evolution, theoretically. There is no inflection point, after which everything will be different and completely separated from what was before. From a marketing standpoint, it seems like a good move, especially if newsteem is *painted* rosier than the old and not-so-regretted oldsteem.

👍 dustsweeper, tarazkp

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@tarazkp · Jul 8 '19

Yep, from a marketing standpoint newsteem works, but it has to be remembered that it will work for some, but not others in the same way that McDonald's advertising or marketing an Audi won't attract all viewers.

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@gadrian · Jul 8 '19

True. Marketing always has a target audience. Or it should have if it's well done.

But how do you market Steem, which becomes a conglomerate of communities, some of them having nothing in common with each other, where steemit.com is not the center of the ecosystem, as many still expect?

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/gadrian)

👍 tarazkp

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@shortsegments · Jul 8 '19

In regards to this post, the comments and replies...whew!
I came, 
I saw,
I read,
I grew,
My brain decided it needed more space.🤯
I like this civil discourse and exchange of ideas, because if we listen and consider each point of view, each of us leaves here wiser having seen the issues from a different angle and perhaps having glimpsed something
We hadn’t seen
We hadn’t heard
Or didn’t think about
I for one, leave here asking new questions,
I hadn’t thought of before.
The ecosystem is changing rapidly, 
though some parts resist change,
They are like trees in the wind,
They will bend or they will be broken and swept away.


PS
AI is already here, 
it’s just hiding. 
😆🤣😂

Peace and good health be with you,
and your little girl too. 🙏

👍 tarazkp

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@tarazkp · Jul 8 '19

>I like this civil discourse and exchange of ideas, because if we listen and consider each point of view, each of us leaves here wiser having seen the issues from a different angle and perhaps having glimpsed something
We hadn’t seen
We hadn’t heard

One thing I like about Steem is that for the most part, discourse is civil. there are some who do not understand the word civil of course. 

>I for one, leave here asking new questions,
I hadn’t thought of before.

I think this is a good result for any post anywhere :)

>AI is already here,
it’s just hiding.

It wouldn't surprise me at all. 

>Peace and good health be with you,
and your little girl too.

Thank you :)

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@sunlit7 · Jul 8 '19

$0.04

Doing a Mr Douglas on us this morning.....

![356aam.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmQBd5ZRy9kbg2pKx8J2bXJFcGYFxTPjnjazHEyK8P1gfA/356aam.jpg)

lol

👍 dustsweeper, tarazkp

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@tarazkp · Jul 8 '19

I have #noidea what Mr Douglas is a reference to.

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@sunlit7 · Jul 8 '19

You never watched the Green Acres show growing up back in the day with Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor?....he was a New York attorney, she was his wife a  flamboyant socialite, he hated living in the city, his dream was to be a farmer so he bought a (super) run down house in a place called Hootersville, it was pure comedy gold from there.    He'd get in these patriotic moments and start doing these long drawn out patriotic speeches, as the camera when pan out from him you'd see everyone else slowly taking off leaving him standing there without realizing everyone left, that's where I got doing a "Mr. Douglas" from.  

https://youtu.be/umS3XM3xAPk

👍 tarazkp

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2 replies

@ocdb · Jul 10 '19

re-tarazkp-new-steem-old-steem-20190710t045608186z

You got a 67.45% upvote from @ocdb courtesy of @tarazkp!  :)

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