Steem is still censorship resistant - for now. by tarazkp

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· @tarazkp ·
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Steem is still censorship resistant - for now.
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Tired of Seeing the new Hive logo? You might not have to soon if you use Steemit.com, as it seems that Justin Sun is going to censor Hive posts on the Steemit front end. I am not sure what he thinks this will achieve other than more bad publicity, as Steem is *still* censorship resistant at this point and many users have moved over to other front ends like @Steempeak since the occupation of Steem began.

<center>![slanted Hive_1.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/tarazkp/b9JTNLrj-slanted20Hive_1.png)</center>

As has always been the case, once a post has been written and recorded by the blockchain, it is very difficult to actually get rid of it and as I and others have said many times earlier, [downvoting is not censorship](https://esteem.app/hive-167922/@tarazkp/the-ability-to-speak-freely-not-earn-freely). That link is from @esteemapp, another front end to use other than steemit.com. The best attempt at censorship that can be made is if all frontend owners choose not to show posts, but that will still leave it available on the blockchain. 

If Justin Sun does try to censorship Hive posts, it is an interesting move, because it will likely result in *even more* Hive posts, human nature being what it is. Tell someone they can't do or have something, and the desire to do it increases and there is nothing stopping people from doing this on Steem. I imagine that many of those who do still post on Steem after Hive launch will include Hive links that feed back to the Hive communities.

I am pretty sure that already, many of the frontends have already got their new Hive colors and websites at the ready. This creates a problem for Censoring a tag is going to be ineffective and censoring URL will likely cost userbase, as there will be lots of non-Hive-related content that will be crossposted onto Steem from the Hive interfaces.  

So, what they have tried to do is to blacklist some authors and posts directly from showing on the steemit.com interface, apparently unsuccessfully as I seem to still be able to see them, such as this one from [Bernie.](https://steemit.com/steem/@berniesanders/i-support-the-move-from-steem) It seems that Justin doesn't really know how Steem works, does he realise that Steemit.com isn't the only interface?

Well, perhaps if he spent more time using his investment he would have a better understanding of what he bought:

![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/tarazkp/QbZx7D02-image.png)

While most of the people who supported the centralization of the chain might not care about the security decentralization offers, I am sure that if it was their posts that were getting removed, they would be up in arms. But still at this stage, the Steem blockchain still holds its censorship resistance position and people are currently protected. I am glad that my content is being cloned onto Hive however because, I do not hold a lot of faith in the future of the censorship resistance, especially with Justin Sun at the helm, who only cares about profits, not ideals. That is a recipe for government intervention and he makes a very good target. 

I do understand Sun's unwillingness to be supporting the advertising and exodus from the chain he thought he bought and it is his prerogative to do as he wants with Steemit.com as he *did buy* that, but it is likely going to amount to more bad publicity in the social platforms, and eventually, his friends and peers will recognize him for what he is, a wannabe tyrant with a large ego, but without the effective power to feed it. That makes him ineffectual as a crypto leader, and as a business leader. Being rich only gets respect for so long before actions speak louder than the money. 

As I wrote this, this post by @mahdiyari, got dropped into a discord group with a notification which has a bit more information: https://steempeak.com/censorship/@mahdiyari/censorship-on-steemit-tron-episode-1

The comment from @ausbitbank is telling. 

>This extra blacklist check means they don't even need to update condenser in the future, they can just push out new censorship mandates direct from China.

So, those who have supported the centralization of the chain have now opened themselves up to control not only from a centralized rich-kid perspective, but also from a government known for censorship of digital media. Good job. 

However, for those who are planning on using Steem in the future, please use another interface as if you use steemit.com, you won't know what you are missing. The omission of information is much harder to factor for than the inclusion of misinformation - as to the mind, it never existed. 

Anyway, it does make for some interesting discussion and I hope that those who read and participate in it start to understand the importance of giving everyone a voice. Remember though, even though that voice might not earn a cent - it can still be heard. 

You might want to mention this on Twitter ;D

See you *always* on Hive.

Taraz
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@pwny ·
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This kind of solidifies why a move to Hive makes sense. Censorship is the way freedoms are lost. 🐝-------
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@tarazkp ·
Yep.
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@revisesociology ·
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I don't know what he's thinking - this is only going to make people repost the Hive posts, as in literally cut and paste with a disclaimer as Embrelyr just did. 

He's not the sharpest knife in the box is he!
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@tarazkp ·
Yep. It is like they have no idea how Steem works at all.
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@livinguktaiwan ·
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Those people who support Sun and centralisation couldn't care less if their posts are censored because they shit post anyway. They're only here to extract as much Steem and tokens as possible
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@tarazkp ·
πŸ˜‚  So you know them too!
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@manniman ·
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I was travelling for 8Hours now and while I was on the move, basically everything has changed. What a day and what a year until now this 2020, sure full of changes.
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@tarazkp ·
It is a pretty volatile experience at the moment. Not bad though and there is lots of opportunity.
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@felander ·
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Well, a couple of points
- justin and team have no idea how steem works
- the english speaking users move to hive
- steem will likely have some value but more in the orient
- I hope they keep buying steem so that I can sell my powerdown at a decent price for the next 13 weeks (or 3 days if our witnesses leave)
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@tarazkp ·
>I hope they keep buying steem so that I can sell my powerdown at a decent price for the next 13 weeks (or 3 days if our witnesses

Yep. That'd be swell.
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@nonameslefttouse ·
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That *three days thing* is a myth.  Justin said it's only for a few accounts like his and exchanges.  It's a *special treatment* hardfork, if I understand it correctly.
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@paragism ·
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Getting ready to dump my steem :)

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/paragism)
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@tarazkp ·
You are not the only one, I am sure.
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@shortsegments ·
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Hi @tarazkp

Another Very Intetesting development on our decentralized, censorship resistant blockchain. 

I can’t help but feel like we are making history here. 
The β€œcrypto verse” or cryptocurrency universe is very young. The rules were made and now we see if we have the will to enforce them with our participation, votes, investments and if need be, our will to fork and go our own way. 

My sadness is slowly and surely being replaced by resolve. 

✍️ shortsegments a Steem community member but the true name of the community shall not be spoken, to avoid the wrath of Khan
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@tarazkp ·
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>My sadness is slowly and surely being replaced by resolve.

I have a bit of nostalgia about my time here, I am sure there will be more later. 
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@organduo ·
Have you decided what you will do with your stake on Steem after today?
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