-- COMPLETED -- [Poker] What Am I Holding? (aka "Guess My Hand") by tuck-fheman

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· @tuck-fheman · (edited)
-- COMPLETED -- [Poker] What Am I Holding? (aka "Guess My Hand")
Note : There is no payout for this "game". I'm just curious to see if anyone can guess my hand. I *may* give a little SBD to the person who guesses it correctly or I *may* not. We'll just have to see won't we. **So play for fun!**
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**Hint 1** : I've played enough hands with the people at the table and seen enough of their stats in PokerTracker to feel that I can control most of the action. So I'm playing a little loose aggressive (for me) in this spot against this opponent. 
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https://s20.postimg.org/vdjesczdp/hand1_JPG.png

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**Hint 2** : I put him on a large pocket pair pre-flop based on the odd size of his 3Bet. He seemed to want me to 4Bet him and he was playing fairly tight. I also had currently earned the title of ***"donkey"*** on a previous hand, so he was gunning for me I figured. ;)
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https://s20.postimg.org/zevwka2al/hand2.jpg
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**Hint 3** : When he 3Bet my check raise on the flop I figured he'd hit the flop but was one card short of a flush. So he either was holding KhKx (which indicates I wasn't even paying attention to the card ranks on the flop lol) or AhAx or AhKx, but he was not the type to force the action with only a draw.
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https://s20.postimg.org/e6mtgld7h/hand3.jpg
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Here's a video of how the hand played out ...

https://youtu.be/U16Qnde90ak

I'll explain the turn and river when 24 hours is up. *IF* there is an imaginary future payout for the winner and there is no winner within 24 hours, that imaginary future payout that may or may not exist will be rolled over into the next imaginary pot on the next "What am I holding?" post. ;)

**Winner** = The person who correctly guesses the correct ranks and suits of the two cards I am holding in this hand within 24 hours of this post. There may or may not be a bonus for anyone that can guess the percentages for the "Hero" in this hand on the flop and turn.

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# This game has been completed and won by @pfunk. See the comments section. 

The Correct Answer : https://s20.postimg.org/67rnd0cv1/hand4.jpg
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@sigmajin · (edited)
edit -- revising my guess (it was initially 8h9h)

You had an underset.  After running the numbers, it looks like an underset in exactly the same suit as your opponent.

My first guess is 6s6c

If i get two guesses, my second guess is 7s 7c.

the reason i prefer 6s6c is because you seem like youd be a pretty laggy fellow to begin with, and i think there's a slightly greater chance that you would 4! the sevens, especially if you were more laggy than usual and playing against a guy who you thought percieved you as a donkey.

The only thing i don't get is why not raise him for his last 13BBs on the turn.

On the flop, you made him for a big pair and a big draw, but you reopened the action for an amount that gave  you nearly no fold equity.  This means that you must have believed that you had AxKh crushed.  You were trying to min CR him to provoke a 3! all-in.  And even if he shows up with the made flush after you get all the money in, youre still doing OK.

You might have flopped a made flush, but that needs to charge AhKx more for the draw.  A min cr  there would be ridiculous.  ANd youre not really trying to provoke an all in against a big pair and a NFD with a small flush.
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@sigmajin ·
_in_ one hour?  did someone break time?
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@tuck-fheman ·
<blockquote> you seem like youd be a pretty laggy fellow to begin with</blockquote>

=)

@joshua @bigpchef
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@tuck-fheman · (edited)
<blockquote>The only thing i don't get is why not raise him for his last 13BBs on the turn</blockquote>

OK, so @pfunk was correct, I'm holding Qh10h and flopped the flush. 

After the flop (which was near perfect), the plan was to extract as much as possible from my opponent and the heart coming on the river ruined that plan, unless they shipped on the river, but they wisely checked.

I feel that had the heart not come on the river and the board did not pair that he would have called any bet. That was what I hoped for from the flop. He actually bet more than I expected on the turn. I would have likely reraised anything less and he would have likely shipped it right there, which was fine with me too. 

Also I thought that if I did bet the river with 4 hearts on the board my outcomes were that he would fold or if he called he likely had the Ah. Online the action is much faster and I didn't really have time to process everything, but my gut instinct there was to check/call his 14BB. If he had the Ah, yeah I'm an idiot for not trying to force him out earlier.

In hindsight I could have played it differently and likely taken his entire stack.
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@tuck-fheman · (edited)
<blockquote>This means that you must have believed that you had AxKh crushed.</blockquote>

:) I will address this later.

**Later :** Yes exactly. I was certain I had him crushed on the flop and turn; because of the way he played up until that point (and his hand history) I was confident in the 3 hands I could possibly put him on.
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@tuck-fheman ·
I updated my post to reflect that I'm posting my thoughts during the time the hand was played and didn't even notice that the Kh was on the flop. That should give a little more of a hint in to what I could have had. ;)
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@pfunk · (edited)
Ace of spades and 9 of hearts
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@sigmajin · (edited)
>So he either was holding KhKx or AhAx

if he thought Ah was potentially a part of villians range, he couldnt have been holding it.  Also the preflop win percentage was only 19%, which means he couldn't have been holding an ace.
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@pfunk · (edited)
Haha I don't parse the poker shorthand so well so I missed that. I'm gonna cheat and pull an ace of spades out of my sleeve then.

edit: and then I go and notice the pre-flop odds too. Well then.
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@tuck-fheman ·
Nope.
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@fiveboringgames · (edited)
QhQ? 

Not sure about your check raise size on the flop or your calls flop and turn
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@tuck-fheman ·
reasons. ;)
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@fiveboringgames ·
well the c-bet size I think is to small to get rid of any Ah draw.  the flop call is a maybe (for me) due to drawing odds. and the turn call you are losing to so much and drawing dead to Ah if a heart comes, maybe big c-bet on turn is better but I dont like that either.

But I've not played much in a few years so I am rusty af so may be miles off on all this
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@ats-david ·
I have to think that you were likely playing for a flush after the flop, if you were playing "loose aggressive." The pre-flop 19% tells me that you probably had a face card and a high number? Then you raised and called after.

I'm thinking A-8 or A-10. One of them hearts. No idea which one would give you the flush or what the other card was. So, completely guessing - Ah8s.
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@tuck-fheman ·
Part of your answer is correct. ;)
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@ats-david · (edited)
EDIT - I missed the part where you thought he was holding Ah.

So, I'm going to guess again...9h8s?
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@tuck-fheman ·
BTW, feel free to keep guessing. This is not one guess only, it's just more impressive with fewer attempts. ;)
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@pfunk ·
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2nd and a half guess: 10 of hearts and queen of hearts
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@tuck-fheman · (edited)
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Oh wow, nice job! You win!

So how did you come to that conclusion?
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@pfunk · (edited)
Obviously you won the flush against three kings. You weren't holding an ace of hearts or a king of hearts obviously. You told ats-david that part of his answer was correct, which I figured was the part about having a face card. Playing loose aggressive means you'd be excited to see if you got a flush draw with a chance at a straight and sure enough there's the flush on the flop. The 10 was a semi-guess based on you explicitly saying you didn't have an 8 or 9. And of course you being Mr. Donkey he's gambling on you bluffing the flush. I'm sure he was relieved to see you check on the river.
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