RE: Support ALL Decentralized Social Media Platforms - Censorship Is The Only Competition! by tuck-fheman

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· @tuck-fheman ·
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### Whoever thinks that Steemit made stellabelle is mistaken. 

She had quite a following before coming here and brought that following with her and I'm fairly certain a lot of them will follow her wherever she goes. She will be fine with or without Steemit and Steemit is lucky to have her and should do whatever it takes to keep her around, like solving the issue she and others have with the inability to block users. The "Mute" feature is obviously not working out as planned. It doesn't even block the people you mute from the replies tab on your own page.
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@karnal ·
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iirc the money situation was not so good before steemit for her -- but I could be wrong.

Agreed on the mute feature, it does not work as one would expect.
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@tuck-fheman · (edited)
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### I understand you're not arguing with me and this is not directed at you ...

I think this needs to be said to address any misconceptions that stellabelle, or anyone else, owes an unbridled loyalty to Steemit for simply being rewarded for their work.

**Money does not make the individual, the individual makes the money.** She earned every dollar she was rewarded by working for it. She has no control over how much she is rewarded by those who choose to upvote her content. Had she posted the same content here and made very little money, people would have no issues with it if she left or what she had to say regarding Steemit.

**The only reason anyone is getting upset with her saying anything perceived as anti-Steemit (which it wasn't IMHO) is because she was given money by others.** But that was not a payment for her to be pro-Steemit, nor was it a payment for her to only post on Steemit, nor was it payment for her to remain only on Steemit. They rewarded her for her individual content and that was the end of the transaction.

**They did not buy stellabelle, nor her loyalty and she owes no one anything.** She is not a product that upvoters bought. Her content was the product of her work and upvoters paid her for that work and that work remains here on the Steem blockchain forever, IT can never leave, IT is loyal to Steemit forever. Stellabelle, and anyone else posting here, is free to do whatever she pleases no matter how much money her content is rewarded.

**We are all free to cash out our rewards for our work whenever we like**, unlike some seem to indicate. It's not a sign that the person doesn't believe in Steemit, just like it's not a sign that anyone of us do not believe in our employer because we cash our paycheck each week. It's because we want to be paid for our work and it's our right to cash out whenever we like.

Content creators are also being given access to only 50% of their pay each day, while the other 50% is locked up for 2 years. I can't think of any employer on this planet that holds your pay for 2 years and only allows you to cash out 104th of that 50% each week. So those complaining about people cashing out don't have a leg to stand on and it's in poor taste to attempt to demean anyone cashing their paycheck, so to speak.

I dare anyone complaining about people who are cashing out their pay for their content to not cash out their paychecks from their day jobs for the next 2 years. Put your money where your mouth is and let's see how that works out for those complaining. ;)
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@stellabelle ·
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Jeez, thanks for sticking up for me. I do appreciate that. It is true that Steemit did not make me. Before I found Steemit, I was a PAID writer, and my schedule was rigorous. I wrote scientific and tech articles for 6-8 hours per day. I switched homes, never stopping to breathe, and steemit rewarded me. I'm sick of me and everyone else not speaking our minds due to the threat of whale flagging. It's not healthy, and if people continue to censors their own thoughts, this ship will sink. Of course I want Steemit to succeed, but I don't want a segment of the user group to be ignored anymore. I am fucking sick of it, and I'm not going to hide what I see as flagrant and total disrespect, and plain ignorance of reality.
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@logic · (edited)
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I admire stellabelle bravery to stand up and criticize.
Same as tuck-fheman. 
You are both very popular and established users so your voices are important.
I am happy to see people like you standing up, when voices like ours (users with little SP) are marginalized:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@logic/steemit-as-direct-projection-of-delusion-of-american-dream

https://steemit.com/anarchism/@logic/steemit-as-pioneer-of-crypto-classism-hierarchy-of-minnows-dolphins-and-whales-hypocrisy-of-pseudo-anarchist-whales
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@sigmajin · (edited)
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NOt that i attacked, or even commented.

But, i do think there is a certain sense of entitlement in her post that might rub many the wrong way.

Bemoaning a system where her post  "only" made  $150 or whatever  (which would be more than many users' biggest post), or bemoaning the whales influence when she has been, arguably, one of the biggest beneficiaries of whale influence makes it appear hypocritical.

I remember in Rok's "evil whale" post, she ardently defended the system where the benevolent whales rewarded all the awesome authors with their perfect judgement (paraphrase obv) , and anyone who thought some people were getting more than they deserved were just jealous and greedy.

I really find it difficult to imagine how she might reconcile the views from that thread with the views she expressed recently.
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@l0k1 · (edited)
It mostly does work. Just try using it and see what happens. I agree that it's not fully fixed yet, but it is better. It seems to work properly with the initial posts on a post timeline, but not so well with comments on the main branch. They still have to fix it, I absolutely agree. I am developing an app that has a block function, and I certainly won't be letting it fail to work as long as the steemit.com guys have. I gave them a prod about it and it's somewhat better. I should reopen the ticket and show some screenies. It needs more work still.

The  ticket is here:

https://github.com/steemit/steemit.com/issues/150#issuecomment-242098627

If you don't have a github account, make one, add your voice to this. It needs to be fixed completely.
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