RE: Your opinion of venezuela. You do not have a valid argument, because you do not live in Venezuela, and because you do not live here, you do not know the reality of what goes on inside. by valued-customer

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freedom · @valued-customer · Mar 17 '19

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The latter statement you quote of mine is rebutting a claim that Venezuela did not advance any economic metric under Chavez.  I did not claim Chavez was responsible for the economic advance.  I merely pointed out that the claimant was incorrect.

I also refute your claim that it is necessary to suffer a particular harm in order to understand it.

I repeat what I said in response to another comment here:  Venezuela is affected by the world, and this isn't only important or understandable by Venezuelans.  Venezuela has a government, and that government executes actions, both proactive and reactive.  Regardless of whether those actions undertaken by Venezuela are retarded or insightful, the impact of actions taken by foreign powers is not the responsibility of the Venezuelan government, nor are those impacts only able to be understood by Venezuelans.

I do not claim to have insight into the specific and particular oppressions suffered by Venezuelans.  I do claim that those are not the only harms suffered by Venezuelans, and can prove that this is so.  

If you claim that only Venezuela can harm Venezuelans, and only Venezuelans can understand this, you are completely wrong.  This is the entirety of my point.  Confusing the issue by misdirection does not prove your point.  Either prove your point, change your mind, or remain wrong.

👍 hendrix22, gamer00

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@lanzjoseg · Mar 17 '19

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Dear @valued-customer

Since you are quite right when you clarify my misunderstanding by the quote I made of your comment. Given this situation I hope you can receive my request for an apology for that misunderstanding.

And it is human being able to rectify according to the consequences that one can cause, if I am wrong I believe that time will tell.
I really think it was a great pleasure to be able to engage in this conversation, a moment of emotional blindness, a product of what I live can be the cause of what is said here, but everything said by me is a crude reality, and consequences of factors internal
That they are affected by terrible internal and external decisions.

I send you a big fraternal hug from my country Venezuela. A population that struggles to be free.

I hope I won a friend.

Here in Venezuela we usually give hugs in the form of friendship. I hope I can receive it in good friendship.

👍 gamer00, valued-customer

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@valued-customer · Mar 17 '19

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I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging I do not defend Venezuelan government, and simply point out that economic warfare is harming Venezuela.

I am confident we can agree that is bad for free people everywhere.

Acting to reveal foreign meddling in the internal affairs of sovereign nations is important, particularly when those revelations come from civilians in the countries doing the meddling, as they may have the greatest insight into the meddling, and enable victims to better understand and act to counter that meddling.

I seek freedom and prosperity for people everywhere, and oppose all oppression I am aware of.  

Big hugs back!

👍 fulltimegeek

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@a-non-e-moose · Mar 23 '19

"I also refute your claim that it is necessary to suffer a particular harm in order to understand it."

I'd bet suffering the harm goes quite a long way in terms of understanding it in many cases.

It might also reveal ineffable details about the harm to the sufferers, which are therefore inaccessible to others.

If those incommunicable details are allowed to be essential to understanding the harm, your refute starts to look like it's on shaky ground.

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@valued-customer · Mar 24 '19

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If you've seen the sole of one jackboot, you've seen them all.  Besides, I think we'll see them all here soon.  We've had inverted yield rates a few times, and every time they presage recession.  It's not like Maduro could conceivably be more corrupt than Trump,is it?

Wait a bit.  We'll be all up to snuff on every incommunicable detail soon.

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@a-non-e-moose · Mar 27 '19

"It's not like Maduro could conceivably be more corrupt than Trump,is it?"

While I'm more unfamiliar with Maduro than Trump no amount of corruption seems inconceivable from heads of state, and Trump doesn't quite yet rule by decree.

Not to deny that Trump's setting the bar high.

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@a-non-e-moose · Mar 27 '19

By the way, why does that comment have pending payout of 0.03 SBD and 0.06 SP with zero votes?

👍 valued-customer

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