Flags, flags, flags... Are you sure you understand how this works? by whatsup

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· @whatsup · (edited)
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Flags, flags, flags... Are you sure you understand how this works?
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<p>When the price goes up we tend to get new users. &nbsp;I feel almost like we are being trolled by a group of traders who have recently joined the community and want to argue with everyone about how the system works, but how it works is really quite simple....</p>
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<p><img src="https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://s25.postimg.org/c1p9q44of/red_flags.jpg" width="250" height="300"/></p>
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<p>&nbsp;Simple Explanation of how the reward system works:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Each day the Steem Blockchain creates new Steem&nbsp;</li>
  <li>That Steem is distributed via our votes</li>
  <li>The more stake you hold the more your votes are worth</li>
  <li>When you post (or comment) the community has 3 options
    <ul>
      <li>upvote</li>
      <li>downvote/flag</li>
      <li>no action</li>
    </ul>
  </li>
  <li>A post is active for 7 days</li>
  <li>When that week is over you get to claim whatever the balance is.</li>
</ul>
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<p><strong>Whether or not you like how it works, that is all there is to it. &nbsp;Anyone can flag anyone at anytime for any reason during the 7 days. &nbsp;After that is all just drama and "reaction"</strong>.</p>
<p>We give lip service to the reasons we think people should flag... But the blockchain doesn't care.</p>
<p>Those with the most stake can give the biggest upvotes and downvotes. &nbsp;Their stake gives them the right to allocate those funds.</p>
<p>There have been calls to @ned to fix the system, but the system is supposed to be decentralized and without an Authority. &nbsp;So, that means each and everyone of us that does not like the way the reward pool is being allocated has a responsibility in either working on flagging and re-allocating the reward pool or accepting it the way it is.</p>
<p>The tools we hold:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Our upvotes and our flags (powered by your SteemPower)</li>
  <li>Our voices and blog page to try to sway others</li>
  <li>Which witnesses we support to represent our voices&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p>Use you voice, but gee whiz the drama level is off the charts on some posts.</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
<p>@whatsup</p>
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@shawn4745 ·
thank's for great news
resteemed
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@black35 ·
wonderful post..
thanks for sharing..
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@shagorshikder ·
such a important newss
.thank's for sharing..
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@robrowe ·
nice to make good post comunity not care flags...is it mean this thing no effect on steem mining thus the upvote mine but the flags are not effect on its mining @whatsup
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@pariza ·
How it work?following you and upvoted. Thanks for sharing the post
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@magnata ·
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You are absolutely right on the arrival of newcomers, you need to again and again issue posts about the work of Steemit. I want to create a template for such a post. Thank you for sharing.

https://i.imgur.com/Mburj5l.gif
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@kellyrose ·
yeah the flagging system is not good and i dont like bcz here anyone can flag to anyone without reason and it is very painic when anyone flaged u whatsup sir
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@whatsup ·
It is working as designed.  It is the end users who are fighting the system instead of trying to understand the system.
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@svshuvo ·
Good and helpful information I will be following you...thanks for sharing
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@serkagan ·
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Excellent article and it is very well-written the whole algorithm of actions when evaluating a specific message. Very useful information, especially for beginners! Thank you @whatsup and happy Christmas!
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@dini1 ·
@whatsup sir
I'm new comer in this great platform...I'm always try learn something with all steemit posts...
Ur this post is very useful to me....
Wondetful post sir...I'm realy interesing...
Followed U sir...now...I'm become Ur fan...I'm always try followed ur blog every day...
Merry Happy Christmas.....
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@steemclaira ·
very informative..you have presented the basics in a very simple way..very useful..thanks for your contribution :)
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@rabeel · (edited)
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@whatsup, you realy point out important issue about flagging. i am new comer and often think about this. i think this is not a good sign for steemit. stemit is our life and our bread and butter is related with it. so @ned should take action or change some policies on this issue. because many peoples specialy new commers affected and disappointed from flagging.
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@whatsup ·
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Wanting things to be different does not make it so.  It is okay for people to be disappointed.  

There is a chance things could be coded differently, but for now it just is what it is.
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@rabeel ·
That's right Sir @whatsup,  if this is system designed and used for the betterment of system then i agreed with your worthy views, because i am new here and dont know much about "flagging system. i am learning from you and many other leaders like you, thanks for being the guide.

"" **MERRY CHRISTMAS** "" to you.
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@deirdyweirdy ·
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Well said! It's up to us to make the system work. We're so anti-authoritarian until there's something we don't like, then we go looking for some authority to fix it for us.
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@whatsup ·
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At least one person understood that point!  Thank you.  :)
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@oldtimer ·
$0.61
Here is another one who understands. You explained it soo simple. The funny thing is that no one wants to leave the platform, but just complaining and want Ned to fix it. It's our platform now, but again, nobody forcing us to stay or buy SP.
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@fitzgibbon ·
$0.86
Yeah, it's crazy how some people here want Steemit Inc to step in and 'fix' something that basically works as intended.
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@stanleyc-md ·
Those people probably don't fully understand how exactly it works.
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@mr-asfandyar ·
(Y)
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@stanleyc-md ·
$0.02
Exactly! It was created to work a certain way and that's what's happening.  Why don't people get that?
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@moeknows ·
You win the internet for the week. #haejinranchodownvote brought me here.
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@ugetfunded ·
Hi @whatsup, We're the people who love crypto currency not because it lets us earn a lot of money rather because we *strongly* believe that it's the future of the financial system of the world that's undergoing a revolution at this time and we're already seeing its positive impacts in the society all over the world. 
> Steemit is the next level in crypto world because this is the first social media both in terms of centralized and decentralized systems and it has already changed so many lives and we believe it will keep doing so with a better pace in future. **It's still beta.**

So, in such a platform that is actually a phenomenon so such a behavior/community of people can never be accepted. It would be a BIG loss if they're not stopped. I request Mr. Ned through this post to 'nip this evil in the bed' before it's too late. Great post. 

Steem On!
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@whatsup ·
$0.30
I don't see any evil.  I see a system working as it was designed.
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@ugetfunded ·
$0.70
I believe in the vision and leadership qualities of Steemit management and I think it's in safe hands. Like you, me too fully support and believe the system. 
> No system is perfect. You're right. 

Thanks for the correction @whatsup.
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@kevaton ·
It's a complete description of how Steemit reward system works. Excellent post.
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@risansa ·
very informative..you have present the basic very simple way.that 's really great....very useful..
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@kawsar ·
really very important information....
you share thnx for share this post
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@elfrances185 ·
$0.61
It is a super uncomfortable topic. people can use them according to their mood. or if they have something personal.
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@whatsup ·
$0.02
Freedom at its finest!
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@jawad09 ·
$0.61
Today's topic is too sensitive. And I'm happy that you took the decision to write on this crucial topic. Downvote / flag is a good thing but usage is not good. It all depends on the mentality of users. However, there should be a transparent system regarding this issue. Sometimes a whale gives a downvote / Flag to a minnow or even a dolphin there are chances that person will loose his / her credibility and might be his career is stoped.So doing this there is no loss of a whale but on the other hand 2nd party will loose everything. So in my opinion ned should take some changes after discussing with some genuine people. 
All the best for your great work and stay awesome dear @whatsup
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@bluemoon ·
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Well explained and simple, for all understanding. Thanks for that. I also think that the power of downvote must be in a way, under control but I understood it's impossible. Must be confident on the honesty of the people, in this case.
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@whatsup ·
$0.02
Notice how nobody ever says...  That upvote was too big.  I didn't deserve it.
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@bluemoon ·
$0.56
Yes, you have right, probably nobody says...I never thought of that. I must to be the first? Thank you for your upvote but it was too big for me, I am not accustomed to receiving such great rewards until now...but it is very nice to receive!
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@salahchiva · (edited)
$0.61
Yes, I agree with you there are many traders and owners of large funds
 who entered the platform and trying to collect the largest followers and this for other purposes
Something good to see new money and investments in the site
 will inevitably help to increase the currency more and more
@whatsup
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@fitzgibbon ·
$0.77
If one wants to have a strong opinion on how things should work on Steemit, one should first get to know this platform, get to know the community and maybe get a little bit vested.

There seems to be an influx of people screaming drama with 25 reputation and no real contribution to this platform whatsoever. I fully support this @whatsup post.
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@whatsup ·
$0.12
Those who agree can help inform and set the culture to reflect this by talking about in the same ways.
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@pathtosuccess ·
$0.62
been trying.. seems a lot of tone-deafness going on. Too busy screaming drama.
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@steemit.lover2 ·
$0.68
Hi @whatsup, I recently started following your posts and I have noticed that your analysis are based on naked truth. You suggest very good points that can help Steemit become a better platform. This is really good sir and appreciable. 
> This is one of the best post on Steemit Flags by the end of the year. 

Thumbs up.
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@brandyb ·
$0.64
I am so glad that you recognize how incredible @whatsup is & are resteeming  all of this greatness!
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@cryptokeepr ·
$0.68
It does seem like the amount of flagging has spiked again in the past week or so and a lot of it is over one individual targeting another over a disagreement about the value and frequency of that person's payouts. I won't mention any names and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. I've stayed out of it and I'm staying out of it because I don't want to get pulled into the drama as I don't even have enough time to do as much *good* work here as I want to do.

As far as new users getting flagged...Many have been saying this for awhile but it's crucial for newcomers to understand what behaviors / actions are likely to get them flagged and how to at least try and avoid it.

I've been here about 5 months and I've very rarely flagged anyone, especially new people. If they're doing something like plagiarising then I'll try to explain that's generally not tolerated here and hope that will lead them to learning what's generally acceptable / not acceptable here (I say generally because there's so many different opinions and very very few concrete rules).

But  yeah, the drama is back. It had died down for awhile and the short-lived low drama era was nice while it lasted...
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@whatsup ·
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I think we are not used to living in a decentralized environment and when people don't like what is happening they scream for someone else to fix it.  

What we are doing (even with the drama) is how we are practicing living without hard fast rules, learning to be tolerant of other ideas, and...

Drum roll.
Votes do not belong to you until the post is closed.  Nobody can take something from you that you do not yet own.
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@kouba01 · (edited)
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Thank you for putting together this informative post on the complex subject of flag.  I am sure it will help the newer members to the community to understand how to use it  better.Great explanation thanks.
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@muhammad12 ·
Wow this cool guy. I like this with your post
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@blazing ·
As i always say spread love not flags ;p
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@applo ·
Thank bro for your great information..Its helpful for every steemer..i like your advice...
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@kartiksingh ·
Steem power is everything here .... Make good use of it or bad use .. depend on us ...
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@theguruasia ·
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@whatsup,
Seriously I hate this flag war! Few days back a little mind person started bully me by his SP! He accused me for nothing and he self upvoted his posts and try to show he is a decent guy! But for me he is a just a bully! People who don't understand the value of Flag just abuse this power! So, I hate such kind of small mindsets! I don't get whale support so, they can bully us easily! But everything can be changed one day!
So without knowing the real use of flag, if people wish to use it, it made CHAOS, no more no less they dig their own grave! Merry X'mas friend!

Cheers~
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@tutufaith ·
Thanks for the post, it is something all new steemite should know abt. I alwz feel sad when I get no action on my blog or comments. But it is a nice post
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@vieira ·
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I've been in Steemit for more than 4 months, and in all that time I used the flag only twice, both for spam, and in one of those I regretted it and then I removed the flag, explaining that they could mark it if I kept doing that.

It may be against me, and even attack me personally, but I don't really use the flag, maybe just an exception.
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@faissalchahid ·
Yes this is a good thing new but something amazing but I see I am the strong guarantors get it from them have a stronger reputation I am like I work with a limit but the weak is weak and this hurts me a lot now is not returned when we find someone who has a strong reputation but the themes are trivial and get a lot of upvote and many participation
As for the non-good sights, for example, a leaflet received $ 10
They give 4.87sbd and 1.6 steem
Where are the rest of the heat?
I hope to find your point of view
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@whatsup ·
$0.26
I'm sorry, language barrier here.  I am not sure what you mean.
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@faissalchahid ·
$0.61
I told you there are problems in upvote
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@faissalchahid ·
Those who have a weak reputation despite his characteristic publications are upvote and weak participation
I am a person who has a strong reputation and does not unite for all. Only some people have a strong reputation
The leaflets are trivial but the payers are strong and this makes me feel that there is a distinction
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@kartiksingh ·
hahaha..!
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@tamurah · (edited)
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I just want to write my poems and history articles, share my thoughts over things, post my photos, upvote and comment the posts i like, and make some money and some new friends in the process - that's all. I've an understanding that if i stick long enough, everything's gonna make sense today or tomorrow. I just want to do what i love to do here.  And i think this is what steemit should be. Do what you can do best and share it with the community - it should be about the contents and contributions. but if someone spams and tries to pollute the environment, I'm for flagging
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@resteemia ·
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https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4358/35626896104_148f71eeef_o.gif
excellent topic to discuss, nice post **@whatsup**

@resteemia
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@shweyaungmyanmar ·
$0.61
hi , @whatsup 
Let me for translation this article to myanmar language .
I am waiting for your reply.
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@whatsup ·
Yes, you may translate and post the translation!  If you tag me in it, I will upvote.
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@steemwija ·
@whatsup - Useful article Ma'm... With the correct idea of how it works, flag is a useful thing... But without a correct idea, it's a type of crime... That's how I feel it Ma'm... Wish you a Merry Christmas...

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@whatsup ·
It is not a crime, it is a vote controlled by stake.
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@steemwija ·
@whatsup - Ma'm I mean without a correct idea use it to deduct someone else reward is a crime...

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@danzy ·
$0.74
Its absurd when any newbie tells me how steemit works.... LOL

I only hate one about one thing which i want steemit to really do is about spammers begging for votes and asking to follow.
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@lextenebris ·
$0.83
It's a little bit disingenuous to fail to mention one of the most important trade-offs built into the system:

For every thing that you flag, you lose the equivalent power to upvote something.

For people new to the platform and who aren't familiar with the fact that their voting power is consumed by a flat 2% every time they exercise it, and it returns extremely slowly (being as they are limited by the Steemit interface to only 100% power votes), their flagging activity is just this side of useless – and comparatively, it will be for a very, very, very, very long time, because of the way that Steem Power is accumulated. Not to mention that that power is exactly what they would probably prefer to use to upvote content that they want more of and reward content creators for making it.

Even for people who have been here no little time, the sum total of their SP which translates directly into the effectiveness of their votes is minuscule. Especially compared to the "big guns" who rampage around and engage in some pretty shady, exploitative practices which can disproportionately affect new users.

So in a real sense we can take "our upvotes and our flags" off of your list of tools and replace them with "our tiny upvotes, and our complete avoidance of flags because of their opportunity cost."

Likewise, Witnesses don't give two farts in a whirlwind for the vast majority of plankton users on the platform. They, too, derive direct benefit from courting the relatively tiny number of whales with significant SP – because their votes are weighted quite heavily because of that SP.

I would agree that the level of drama in some quarters is ridiculous, but I would also emphasize that part of that is well-earned because the system as it stands is definitely rigged in an aggressively authoritarian manner. You can contend that it's not, but when we see 90+% of the power, real power, system affecting power, held by less than 5% of the active population – it's hard to deny.

It's sort of like suggesting that medieval Europe was completely egalitarian, because everyone had the ability to pick up a sword – even if access to swords was extremely limited, you could be punished for touching a sword, and only the elite royalty could decide if you could be allowed to touch a sword – but because you have hands and could, theoretically, lift a sword, you are the equal in all ways in society as everyone else.

That's patently ludicrous, but that's the position you're advocating.

"Silly" is what it is.

Now, I'm not one of those advocating for @Ned to suddenly step in and impose some top-down administration solution, but neither am I particularly thrilled with the current state of things which might be best equated with a "state of nature," in which there are a few very, very strong members of the population, of the vast number of quite weak members, and the best level of organization that we see are warlords and vigilante mobs – which is about as regressive as you can imagine. There's a reason that cultures don't evolve until they end up in a situation with sufficient personal security in their person and property to do so.

We are a long way from that on the steem blockchain.

That's extremely disappointing.

Does it demand the level of vitriol and drama that some seem to want to invest it with? No. Nor does it demand the level of blind cultist devotion that we see just as often at play in the community. Both of those positions are irrational and lead to poor understanding of what one can actually, usefully do.

But that's what we've got, especially among the upper echelon of active users who have a significant amount of SP and thus a vastly disproportionate power.

If one of the whales decided that I was someone that they no longer wanted around on the steem blockchain? It would be relatively trivial to invest more SP into a bot account than I'll see in six months of constant posting, set it to flag everything that I post, and then walk away. The relative expense of doing that? Trivial. Is there anything that I could do about it? Absolutely not.

That's the position we find ourselves in. Is it any surprise that new users to the platform who come with the expectation that they'll be able to at least make a difference to their own experience and contribute something rapidly discover that they are highly limited in a real sense on both points? It shouldn't be. It hasn't been. It will continue not to be a surprise.

And it's something that we should probably not be sanguine about. We shouldn't dismiss those concerns just because they don't adhere to the joyous narrative of the blockchain. We should be honest and upfront about how things work.

We absolutely have to embrace the truth, and the truth is not as golden as you would paint it.
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@whatsup ·
$0.18
I didn't paint anything as Golden and if you look through my previous posts, I point out that the Distribution of the SteemPower is our number 1 problem.

I agree with much of what you said, but the purpose of this post was to clarify how the upvote and downvote function works.  

The Distribution problem is a different problem and people on the Internet do not want to take the time to digest all that you just said.  

We need to learn to communicate this information, including the points you bring up in simple, digestible statements that a layman can understand.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
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@lextenebris ·
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You left out one of the most important things about the upvote and flagging system: the fact that it imposes a very strong, powerful opportunity cost to engage with flagging. In a very real sense, there is a vertical wall between a goodly chunk of the population who live in the community and the people with enough SP to make choices and actions which can actually affect the population.

That plays into talking about how up and down voting works, because without that piece, a newcomer might be somehow convinced that their actions will make a difference in terms of engaging in flagging behavior with the expectation that it will "make the community better."

That's a false hope. It's not just inefficient, it's actively false.

And upvote on a thing at least carries the weight of every single "upvote" being relatively equal in terms of count. If you and I both upvote something, and someone who is been on the platform for six hours upvotes something, all three of us have an equal influence on the number of votes. The creator will be rewarded in smaller proportion by the new guy, but he has engaged with the content at an equal level as any of us.

Now consider the issue of the flag. If you flag something, it gets a pretty serious downward pressure on both reward and Reputation. If I flag something, it gets a little downward pressure on reward and probably almost nothing to Reputation. If the new guy flags something, it has no impact on reward and no impact on Reputation – and on top of that they've given up the chance and opportunity to use that voting power to vote up something that at least would have bumped up the positive signal for a creator.

Taken in terms of the matrix of possible payoffs and gains for upvotes versus down votes, for the vast majority of people on the platform – flagging is a waste of time and effort. For everyone who is new to the platform, flagging is a total waste of time and effort.

And that's a problem that needs to be presented so that people actually can see the things that they can make decisions about and affect in a reasonable way.

In that sense you absolutely painted a golden picture of upvoting and flagging. As presented, you have suggested that it is an effectively egalitarian set of decisions. But it's not. It's nothing like that. Upvoting has minor but recognizable effect. Flagging for new users, and frankly for people who have even been here a while, has almost zero effect and significant cost attached.

That's a big difference from what you presented.

If we want to communicate this information, there are two points which we cannot afford to indulge:

* We cannot paint an unnecessarily rosy picture just because it's the picture that we would prefer were the case. The facts have to be true and accurate.

* We cannot underestimate the intelligence of "people on the Internet." People on the Internet clearly do want to take the time to digest things, and moreover they have the capacity and ability to digest and understand things.

If we accepted that people are too lazy or too stupid to understand things which are more complicated then tying their shoes – let's just pack it up, give up, and stop doing anything.

75% of everything – *everything* – on Steemit goes back to the distribution problem of SP across the population. Voting, whether up or down, is the crystallized distillation of the problem where all the bits of it come together. If when were talking about voting we must avoid talking about distribution, we can't talk about voting.

Do you want to educate people about what they can do and what they should do to be better members of the community? I was pretty sure that was your original intent. If so then you have to trust that people can and will want to understand what you're writing about.

It's a core requirement.
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@mr-asfandyar ·
Well said !! Really good knowledge to share
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@nayyabsipra ·
Hey @whatsup
Its nice article to post. Very nice say that our system is totally carpeted. Whereas No authority or judge  is take over responsibly to change the system. Depends upon the people who change his Governance. Keep it up and Sharing
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@pathtosuccess ·
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hope you kept an offline copy of this post you can reword a bit every couple of months and re-post. It will be needed again and again and again.
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@goldendawne ·
$0.61
>to fix the system, but the system is supposed to be decentralized and without an Authority

I didn't know this. Thank you for explaining it to me in layman's terms
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@emmaculate ·
It is up to us to stand up and solve that🔝🔝
If we don't stand for something we might fall for everything⬇⬇
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@rocksg ·
This platform is not at all very complicated but quite simple. New users get used to it within a week.
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@eqko ·
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I just opted to fix myself a drink and some snacks and watch the drama unfold.
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@eqko ·
haha that’s so true LOl !!
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@jackandrew ·
This was truly helpful for me. I've joined the community recently and I really didn't know about everything you share in your post, so I do appreciate it. Thanks!
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@booster ·
<p>This post has received a 2.48 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @whatsup.</p>
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@santy ·
$0.63
I think the whole perpose of the steem comunity is to give the content developer a goal to create something for the blockchain community. If we name out other social media they don't give fhe content creator anything for their cntribution. but steem is diffrent. it gives his content creator it's respect. through money.and not only the author but tthe curetor are also hwt benifited. onw think I believe that there is no room for those people who just want to earn something by others creation.you have to contribute something to this community if you wanna survive here.otherwise this place isn't for you. nowadays i saw some people they r just trying to polute this place like the did before to the others. we have to be very aware of those people. cause there is no other place like steem and we have to make it safe for our shake. thanks for your awareness blog. Have a happy and safe steem.
👍  ,
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@mikepm74 ·
$1.07
I flagged this post because.... Awww who am I kidding.  

The bottom line is that the community is supposed to be self policing, that is the whole point of the flagging system, and why it is not going to get changed anytime soon.  This is working as intended!  

And when it doesn't work as intended, it is our responsibility to correct the corrections.  Or something like that!
👍  ,
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@whatsup ·
Correct, correct and correct again.  :)
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@insideoutlet · (edited)
$0.73
Awesome clarification. I've been a bit confused the whole flaging stuff. I didn't even know that counted as a downvote or that it costed you a vote at all. Let alone the fact that there is voting power. I learn more each day and appreciate posts that lay things out simple for us lowly minnows.
👍  ,
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@brandyb ·
$0.77
You're super wonderful  at seeing things in a way that really resonate and help people understand this is one of the main reasons I put myself up for adoption after reading some of your information I am seriously so lucky that I am your pet minnow! You have so much incredible knowledge to share and I love every time I learned something new from you which is basically like every day!  This is a really excellent point and I am so glad that you spoke up and said so as this community will always be what we make it.
👍  ,
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@whatsup ·
$0.06
I need a drink in Mexico.  :)  I hope you had a great Christmas and New year.
👍  
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@brandyb ·
many many cheers!!
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@harbecity ·
$0.58
It's always scared the shit out of me when I see posts being flagged and chethah comments..Am new here and am learning gradually though but it will be nice to take more lessons from long time users.. happy boxing day and make sure you box anyone you first set your eyes
👍  ,
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@shivohum2015 ·
Sometimes flag war starts casually but ended up ugly. I have seen people in order to take revenge, take delegated SP and keep on flagging.

Flag should be used judiciously and the fist time offender should be pardoned .

Thank you @whatsup
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@crypto-wisdom ·
In this community we can see two kind of whales.

One is kind hearted and the other is short tampered. 

Kind hearted whale adore us even with our mistake just like mother and short tampered whales downvote even with slightest provocation.

SO balance is required to be maintained by a minnow in this community to survive.
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@sthitaprajna ·
There should be some other kind of mechanism between upvote and downvote and that should be to warn a user which is potentially leading to a downvote.

This is required in this platform to use the power of downvote ethically.

Thank you @whatsup...steem on and stay blissful...
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@upme ·
re-whatsup-flags-flags-flags-are-you-sure-you-understand-how-this-works-20171226t062725816z
You got a 0.91% upvote from @upme requested by: @whatsup. <br> Send at least 1.5 SBD to @upme with a post link in the memo field to receive upvote next round. <br> To support our activity, please vote for my master @suggeelson, as a [STEEM Witness](https://steemit.com/~witnesses
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@cityslicker ·
never used as it get worse you get into a war with others
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@starboye ·
so many flag war is going on currently it is just sad to see all that
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@steemphotography ·
we all rule this system as we all are the moderators :)
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@brainceo ·
we have the power which is waiting to unleash them
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@wandering ·
if the system works great with everyones opinion i don't think their will be any need of flagging :)
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@sadcasm ·
$0.58
i had no idea how it worked before but now definitely got an idea
👍  ,
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@starving ·
lots of tool we hold i only use one ;)
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @whatsup!
Your post was mentioned in the [hit parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20171225) in the following category:

* Comments - Ranked 10 with 109 comments
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@cutiepie ·
its like a flag for flag that power is only for some users
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@eyelashe ·
time to fight for rights
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