Time To Make STEEM A Huge Success By Dropping The Focus On "Quality" by taskmaster4450

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Time To Make STEEM A Huge Success By Dropping The Focus On "Quality"
"Do you want massive STEEM success or do you want quality?"

"I want both of course."

Sorry. You cannot have both.  It is a statistical impossibility.  If you want massive STEEM success, then it is time to stop espousing the idea that STEEM is a place ONLY for "quality" posts.  

Essentially, this is a cancer that is running through STEEM that needs to be cut out.

To start, STEEM Is NOT a blogging platform.  While it started out that way, things evolve and change.  Most of the successful DApps on here will have nothing to do with blogging.  While that might upset a few people, that is wonderful news.  Blogging is a minor part of the whole.  It is not the market to solicit.

Wordpress is by far the largest website/blogging platform out there.  The last stats I saw was there are roughly 75M sites.  That is a lot of people.  Of course, not all of those sites are "quality".  Some post very good stuff while others absolute garbage.  But they all post stuff.

Most of us would not put posting links as "quality".  However, the link posting site, Reddit, has 250M monthly active users with over 500M accounts.  That means 250M people are posting, commenting, and upvoting on a monthly basis.  This ignores how many people use the site just to read and find content.  

So which is more valuable?  75M people or 250M people?

Do you want STEEM at $100?  $500?  Even $1000?  

Then you are not getting it focusing upon "quality".

YouTube has over 1B users.  How much of the stuff on there is "quality"?  Sure there are plenty of videos that are well done by serious Vloggers.  Yet there are also a ton of things that are complete lunacy.  How many cat videos exist on YouTube?  

Back in 2014, there were over 2M cat videos on YouTube which were viewed 25B times.

http://tubularinsights.com/2-million-cat-videos-youtube/

Can you imagine if the STEEM blockchain had 2M cat videos on it?  Not if you are focused upon "quality".  Most of those cat posts won't pass the "quality" test.

Of course, I would love 2M cat videos on STEEM getting 25B views...the bandwidth for that alone would make STEEM worth $50.

Do you know what else does not pass the "quality" test? Selfies.  Did you ever ponder how many of them are taken?

According to this Google, 24B were uploaded in 2015 on Google servers alone.  How many do you guess were uploaded on Facebook during that same time period?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3619679/What-vain-bunch-really-24-billion-selfies-uploaded-Google-year.html

The "quality" mantra is arrogant and exclusive.  We have a problem with people going inactive.  While I attribute most of it to the deathly slow sign up/approval process, part of it could be because people come on here and they are pounded with the idea of "quality".  Either it is post "quality" content or "my content is quality" and nobody is upvoting it.  Both these ideas will de-motivate the average user.

Here is the deal:  The masses do not post "quality" so it is inane to even focus upon that if we want STEEM to appeal to them.

Do you know what people post?  They post **what INTERESTS them**.  That is the difference.  

For some, their interest lies in cat videos; others selfies.  Some want to post goofy conversations with their friends.  Still others want to film a butt at the gym and post it.  Whatever interests people, that is what they post.  They could care less about quality.

This is the Internet after all.  It is a total cross section of people around the world.

Does this mean serious bloggers/vloggers should drop their standards?  Of course not.  Nor does it mean that people who are looking for serious content on particular subject should abandon those who are posting content that meets their standards.

What it does mean is that people are free to post what they want and they are under no obligation to adhere to the standards of anyone else.  In fact, while I maintain a quality about the posts I put up, I detest the idea of anyone on here trying to determine what is quality or not.  The reason I do this is because I am into inclusion, not exclusion.  People who espouse the idea of "quality" are simply exclusive.  It is impossible to be any other way.

Some will say we have the ability to determine quality with the individual upvote.  That is partially true.  One can determine that.  However, one does not have to use that standard.  People often upvote something simply because they like it.  That are many reasons to like a comment or post, most of which have nothing to do with the idea of quality.

My main goal is to make STEEM as successful as possible.  For that reason, I would love to see 500M or 1B people on this blockchain.  This will not happen if everyone is focusing upon making sure only "quality" content is published.  I see many who call posts on here crap.  Please tell me the names of the Steemians who are on the crap committee and make such decisions.

STEEM is changing and the ones who want this to be a blogging platform are going to be disappointed.  We are seeing a host of DApps that extend well beyond the scope of that.  In fact, the posting is only for verification.  And wait until an app like APPICS comes fully online.  Then you will really see the "quality" idea wounded.  It will be selfie galore.

By the way, Instagram has 95M pics and videos uploaded PER DAY.  Do you think all of them meet the quality test?

Does this one?

![image.png](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmTVLXk9nAjPF84CJbBE9nQ8abXpfNBQK3tnTnnbeLDDZa)

https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2017/04/20/instagram-statistics

If APPICS can do 1% of of what Instagram does, we will have a $10 token on our hands.

Yesterday I posted about doing another Minnow Uprising.  Some take exception to my suggestion that people post 3-4 times a day because of the "quality" of content being so bad.  Personally, I disagree with this viewpoint since I do not believe that smaller accounts (or any for that matter) should be held to some type of journalistic standard of what is good enough to post.  People should be encouraged to post whatever they want.

So I ask again, do you want STEEM to be a raging success appealing to the masses and getting hundreds of millions of users on here?  If the answer is yes, it is impossible to do that while holding onto the "quality" idea like a life jacket.  

Here is what could happen if we continue down that path.

![image.png](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmZ2poZSsFfSciq6BFFtEazBJVNN7EHy8NX1t1dvUCyRqy)

From 40K authors down to 15K.  Certainly there were other factors that caused the decline but the point is when you take an excluding stance, people are driven away.

![image.png](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmTKkY3b71J9qYh4WnzHn7ETzDjef4xiWALidQqKn81ZF9)

It isn't surprising to see the posting and commenting following the same path.  

https://steemit.com/statistics/@arcange/steemit-statistics-20180908-en

The days of talking about STEEM like it is a blogging platform are over.  STEEM is now a full-blown social media center that is creating applications that will appeal to the masses.  With the masses comes all the quirky likes and dislikes.  We are going to see just about everything posted on this blockchain if all goes well.  

When this happens, I will be the first one applauding this.  My goal is for STEEM to be as successful as possible.  As the numbers in this article show, the blogging world is minor compared to the rest of the social media space.  STEEM needed to decide what the target market is and the developers of the applications concluded it was not in blogging.  Mass appeal is what STEEM needs.

And every account that has SP in it will be very happy with that decision.  All those users are going to require bandwidth and that is still bought with STEEM.

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@smidge-tv · (edited)
Cancer of steemit exposed ,  by @psecdocumentary

https://youtu.be/3gnH8lxxFQM
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@yaanivapeji ·
If steemit was about posting quality post, the CEO @ned might not even past the test based on the type of posts he makes most of the time. 

Steemit is a social media site, so people should just chill and have fun.
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@leeuw ·
exactly and exactly
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@eaglespirit · (edited)
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@acesontop ·
It's a long time since I haven't had the patience to read such a long article on Steemit, but I have to say you nailed it with this one. The way you see Steem *rocking* as a cryptocurrency and Steem, the blockchain blogging platform, is unique and much in tune with what I feel. I love blog posts and I've read multiple ones, but at the same time I also like posts on Steepshot or DTube so I also consider that in order to make Steem a success we need to let go the idea that Steem=blogging= professional written articles=success. That's just one layer of it and we should be happy that it is like this because we are not all good at blogging, but we are all around here, or at least many of us, interested in cryptos and of course in Steem, thus there should be some means of earning Steem and loving Steem for everyone. And that's why I think diversity will make Steem a success. We're about 7 billion people and we're all individuals and as individuals we don't need patterns and dogmas to evolve, but options to choose from. Again, great article and thumbs up for it. 100% worth resteeming. I don't do that that often.
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You spoke my heart, my friend.
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@wizardave ·
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Exactly!
That's why @surpassinggoogle's @ulogs initiative is so important!
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@samic ·
totally agree, with ulog you just need to be you,
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@dominion01 ·
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So true.  SMT platforms like Dlike and Actifit are popular and useful.  Not blog related.
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@netuoso ·
There is no SMT platform yet..
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@revisesociology ·
Fair point, and with all the Dapps emerging it's a rapidly evolving place!

Of course one thing that words against steem as a blogging platform is the immutability - with WP I can churn out posts and then go back and only improve the ones people actually look at. Can't do that here.
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@matuca ·
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I totally disagree with you ... you will find garbage of all kinds ... and no one can prohibit it from being published ... but what should not be voted and awarded ... just that is what is destroying this platform
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@taskmaster4450 ·
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Thank you for the comment @matuca.

Please tell me what qualifies as garbage?

>but what should not be voted and awarded

Oh really?  So now we are going to tell people what should be upvoted and what shouldnt?

Again, so what is the criteria of what should be voted and rewarded?  Who decides that?
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@smidge-tv · (edited)
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you can always create your own platform and filter what ever you like  . freedom is basic need of every human being
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@matuca ·
how crazy that one who is a plagiarist tells me ... it is clear that you would never agree with the quality because you are dedicated to plagiarizing ... mine was an opinion and yours a crime ... 
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I fully get what you are saying and 99% agree with you.  There are many many people here on steemit that do not produce awesome content but work their asses off with engagement or volunteering time on discord.  And these people are not getting the so called supports because their content does not rock.  I think this is wrong.  We need people that are active engagers and community workers doing what they do for content, awesome or not, to succeed.  Its my opinion that the people that work their asses of engaging are part of the backbone of steem.  Inclusion over quality is very often necessary.
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@personz ·
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If you get it maybe you can explain it to me because there is nothing actionable in the post as far as I can tell.

You imply though that it is to vote for posts which would not be deemed "quality", in favor of "inclusion". Is this a call to get people thinking about their voting strategy? Maybe it's directed particularly to whales? It can't be for content creation.
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@phgnomo ·
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It's about the culture of the site as a whole.

There is some big users claiming for "quality" of the publish content, and complain/flag when people post things like memes, and about what they ate at lunch.

(Dont get me wrong, flags are needed, but that is another story)
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@ganjafarmer ·
Inclusion for the win!
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@revisesociology ·
Did taskmaster ever respond to comments? I'm sure he used to and now he's stopped.

Given the content of this post and the bot use, I guess you can at least say he's consistent!

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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, it is good to engage, and it does pay off in the long-run in more ways than we may see right away.
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@mumma-monza ·
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Agreed! I suffer a fear of posting because of all the hype about quality content which leaves me posting only once around once a week because I am afraid of being deemed a "shit poster". 
There were so many points in this article I found myself nodding in agreeance. 
Most certainly sharing this with my friends in Steemit communities.
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@phgnomo · (edited)
Embrace the shitposting!

Just dont spam nor plagiarise. That is bad.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
People have different definitions for spam, fake news, hate speech, calls to violence, racism, to what might be good, to what might be bad, to many different things, to what might be worse, and to what might be better, subjectively speaking, and Melania Trump was accused of copying Michelle (Michael) Obama for example in a speech which is not true but some do say she stole her speech. So, it can be tough to know. It depends on which standards, which rules, which world views, you judge things from, whether they be from a Christian perspective, a Muslim perspective, a Chinese perspective, a leftist view, a globalist ideology, an anarchist worldview, or whatever.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, I don't want to be thought of as an oatmeal poster either.
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@preparedwombat ·
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>Of course, I would love 2M cat videos on STEEM getting 25B views...the bandwidth for that alone would make STEEM worth $50.

Is it just a coincidence that 2x25=50? Iโ€™ve never understood how X demand for bandwidth would translate into Y demand/price for Steem?
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@stokjockey ·
@taskmaster4450 I know you get it and I think Steem under $1.00 currently has HUGE Potential will it go UP in price Probably, when will it go Back Up in Price I have No Idea. Yes things are changing and I am compelled to embrace the Change........I think for those with a Little Patience you will do well Financially because your Steem Power will always work in your Favor...............Now get out there and be Positive !!
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@chekohler ·
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I think with dApps we will get there eventually. When i first started using Steemit i felt it was very pretentious everyone was writing this full length essays like the were medium premium authors or doing some artsy stuff I wasn't into. The only place I could engage in was the crypto section but ive seen the site progress since then and we have a much larger range of content all being rewarded. We are by no means ready for main stream adoption but its great we're finding the issues, making the changes and evolving the platform gradually.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, agreed, love the progress, the Oatmeal, that Steem is making.
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@protegeaa ·
I actually just wrote about this. I had been posting only twice a week because I wanted to ensure only good essays on my feed, but then realized mixing in some shorter stuff that was somewhere between a tweet and an essay really helped boost engagement with my followers.

Apps are making this easier to do, too.
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@offgridlife ·
I kind of agree... 

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@offgridlife ·
The really crappy posts will not get any votes... open the doors 

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@offgridlife ·
Just Mute the annoying Steemians .... itโ€™s so easy 

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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yup.
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@ikar59 ·
<blockquote>What it does mean is that people are free to post what they want and they are under no obligation to adhere to the standards of anyone else.</blockquote>
I agree with you, I have participated in some live curation activities in some discord servers with users of my country and one thing that and one thing that bothered me about them is that they think they are expert curators and always make banal suggestions about the quality or how the posts have to look without reading them, the thing is that they have not enough SP to give a upvote that matters hahaha.
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@shaungerow ·
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When I tell people about Steemit, the thing I say thatโ€™s the beauty of this site is that itโ€™s pretty well anything goes, and you can post whatever you want. You donโ€™t have to worry about getting canned off the site the way you are over YouTube, Twitter, or many other social media sites for having the wrong opinion these days. Thatโ€™s the beauty of Steemit to me!
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@bethvalverde ·
I agree no censorship.
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@smidge-tv ·
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absolutely NO CENSORSHIP !
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Agreed, Steem is more like the Wild Wild West.
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@aschatria ·
The different people have different interests, we can't shove quality to everything.
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@skytrex ·
$0.14
Great insight! To bad these charts above don't show the total page-views trends (up or down)...
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@moderndayhippie ·
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Wow, mind blown!  I never thought of it like this.  I am sometimes guilty of bitching about crap posts but only because that is how has been on steem since I started over a year ago (and a lot of the ones I bitched about had huge payouts cuz of bidbots) so I guess I was on the bandwagon, ***but not anymore***.  Thank you for opening my eyes to this, I will also start spreading more awareness for these ideals because ur right its the numbers that matter not quality anymore.
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@phgnomo ·
Plagiarism and spam must still be fought though.
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@bethvalverde ·
Thanks. This already makes me feel more comfortable.
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@rawutah ·
me tooooooo!
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@rawutah · (edited)
gosh...thank you SO MUCH @taskmaster4450 !!!!  your words hit home today!!!  i've been feeling like a C student....among many A student "bloggers"....on a quickly evolving steem blockchain. much more akin...to posting what i see in my garden day to day...as i view it as priceless....but feel intimidated...by others who encourage to not even post...if it doesn't match up to certain "rules" of steemit.  i just wanna POST!!!!!!!  back on it today..thanks to you sir!  thank you!
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@eaglespirit ·
your posts are actually very lovely and hugely educational!! maybe more of the selfie, meme, no content posts is what most consider ๐Ÿ’ฉ๐Ÿค‘
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@rawutah ·
you're VERY kind...thank you @eaglespirit !!!  i appreciate your encouragement so much!  like mentioned in this post... @steepshot and soon @appics are huge for me!  i enjoy posting in the moment of awe....type posts...which steepshot has allowed me to do. had to get over..my perception...of even steepshot being frowned upon lol.  deeply grateful for taskmaster's expansive viewpoint too.  he captured much of what my heart and brain have attempted to express...as i've integrated others viewpoints here. in fact, i think i've seen taskmaster's curation trail...hit my posts up....so THANK YOU SIR!  soooo much hope for this blockchain!!!!!!!  ps-both of your posts....EACH ONE...is like a magazine article.....of the greatest publications...of our day.  the blockchain is blessed to have both of.... you!
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@eaglespirit · (edited)
$0.06
hiya Taskman! 

i find this post very interesting and i have to think back to when i first came on board and had people tell me how i should write and what was curateable. imo, this was more discouraging and distracting than just letting me write freely. if it werenโ€™t for supportive friends then i wouldโ€™ve left long ago. i never got a curie or a major recognizion and the words of โ€œnot good enoughโ€ were communicated. after these words were stated i saw hypocricy and favortism, which made more sense. these standards that are placed on some people but not for others. this has been confirmed by many working in these groups. sad to say.
i agree, that judgments are formed even to the extent that my โ€œnaughtyโ€ posts almost probibited me access into a group. 
it would be nice to think steemit is a quality site but reality sets in and tells us what you stated above, people love โ€œcrap posting.โ€ 
on the point you brought up regarding regarding exclusionary, isnt that what the new โ€œcommunityโ€ is about? we see many people excluded out of โ€œinvite onlyโ€ groups right here on steemit. itโ€™s not easy to climb up as youve mentioned, if one wants to move up theyve played the Steemit game. 
personally, iโ€™m here for the long run and i appreciate your stats.
many people have invited me to other platforms, however, they all have a niche and thats not my thing. my suggestion to people, especially new to steemit is to buy steem when its low, if you cant then stick to writing what you love, reading what you want to, and source all images and quotes. if you can, comment and respond to comments with sincerity (at least one sentence). thats it! 
the next point is, some people are here for community and not the money. so quality to them means everything. putting that one out there. 

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@rawutah ·
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i love how you use....written words. ;)  felt
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@eaglespirit ·
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love mah @rawutah!! ๐Ÿค—
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@angelica7 ·
I like your point of view, it makes me review certain aspects and keep learning little by little about this great ocean. Good vibes.
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@eaglespirit ·
@angelica7 yay glad you feel this way and steem on! :)<br/><div class="pull-right"><sub><a href="https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@roxane/fast-reply-v0-1-never-miss-to-answer-a-comment-again-and-do-it-faster-than-ever">Sent with Fast-Reply</a></sub></div>
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Different kinds of people love different kinds of things, so many may love shorter posts that are more general, simple, easy to digest, familiar, or whatever, but there are people out there that are into cooler things, better things, perhaps, especially the #InformationWar community which I prefer.
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@eaglespirit ·
@joeyarnoldvn yup i agree as i stated in my comment, thanks for your additional list hehe and i'm with them too! love them to pieces, just asked them to add me to their list! so sad when they were banned :(<br/><div class="pull-right"><sub><a href="https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@roxane/fast-reply-v0-1-never-miss-to-answer-a-comment-again-and-do-it-faster-than-ever">Sent with Fast-Reply</a></sub></div>
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@stellabelle ·
This is a 4KHQ post. I couldnโ€™t agree more... letโ€™s start a new club โ€œAnything Goesโ€... did you see my High Quality parody before?????

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@personz ·
But... anything already goes.
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@ats-david ·
I was hoping that maybe *she* would โ€œgo.โ€ :)
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@joeyarnoldvn · (edited)
Maybe we can call the hashtag #LetItGo and put Frozen pictures in the background with the Let It Go theme song playing on a MySpace style playlist in a sidebar. bring back MySpace style customization which were far better than that of Facebook around 2006 even.
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@stellabelle ·
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https://media2.giphy.com/media/8EZz0AzqGUycM/giphy.gif

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@plemmons ·
Following you on Twitter. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Now for the life of me I can't remember your name there. Sorry ๐Ÿ˜

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@stellabelle ·
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Explains the difference between High Quality and 4K High Quality: https://youtu.be/JbTPLxIhIaU

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@rawutah ·
lol!!!!!
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@steemek ·
$0.03
Lmao!
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@isaria ·
lol! That was glorious.  I love the tape holding the phone to her ear.
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@indigoocean ·
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
This could become a daily Steem Puppet Show. Love it.
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@bmanmcfly ·
Quality is such a subjective trait, that it is near impossible to measure.  What is quality to one is a waste of time to another.

You mentioned the drop of 35K authors... and seem to propose that by expanding the platform into a wider variety of apps is going to offset that loss and maintain value. 

You might draw in users, but ultimately, there's little to nothing behind the steemit token and the interface that offers any real value to the token.... ultimately, if the tokens generated lose sufficient value where even witnessing is not profitable, even with a massive userbase, the system will collapse in on itself.
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@uv10 ·
$0.06
I cannot completely disagree with you but I think we should leave the"quality" part to the market. This is was this experiment was, I think. to let good quality "rise" to the top, organically. Apart from enforcing community guidelines, all is to be permitted. O think we should focus however on what sets Steemit apart, which is the tying of crypto currency to social media.
The idea is that when you add the financial incentive, things look different than Facebook.com. the price has more to do with investors than content i.e WHALES, SADLY. but that's the way it is! for now...
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Could we survive without the whales? It can cost a lot of money to run this, right?
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@ross-early ·
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I can't say that I completely agree with this. Quality will always be an important factor on Steemit (in my opinion) and I think it would be a mistake to throw it to the wayside. There will always be room for both quality and non-quality post on the platform therefore neither should be discouraged.  Users will upvote and reward the content that they like regardless of what "category" it falls under.

Other Dapps that exist on the Steem blockchain now and those that will be built in the future will choose to sacrifice quality, which will provide the necessary balance on the Steem blockchain. Each providing value to the Steem token some with more of a focus on quality (steemit) and others on mass appeal.
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@phgnomo ·
> There will always be room for both quality and non-quality post on the platform 

That is the point.

Your followers/readers depend on the quality of what you post. (Rewards are another story)

We Just dont have to "crusade" about quality content. (Btw, steemit is not attractive to professional content creators)
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@schattenjaeger ·
$0.25
What are you babbling about? Quality posts havenโ€™t been the focus for at least a year, almost two. 

The only focus is who you know. Thatโ€™s it. No one even reads the posts.
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@rubencress ·
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While your posts suck, this comment does not. You're so right.
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@phgnomo ·
You dont like his posts, but i do.

That is the whole point.

Also, there is always the flags...
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@outtheshellvlog ·
I read posts.  I certainly as hell don't typically listen to things.  I read faster than people can talk.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Readers are leaders. Better to read faster than to be left behind. Revenge of the nerds time.
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@coolenglish ·
Upvoted. Resteemed. Unread.
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@nerddream ·
I disagree. 

As mankind, we are on a journey to discover who we are. Social Media are just like a psychadelic drug that opens the minds of us childs to the vastness of a universe. A universe, we will never fully understand. 

Some people under the influence of steemit, like you @schattenjaeger, will focus on networks and conections as the common thread, others actually look for ideas, like @steemonsters e.g., which I find fascinating.

As a recent joiner, I will likely never meet the most of you in person. But I wonder what's going on in your worlds and most networks like twitter+FB don't allow peaking through the own filter bubble. 

I agree, with @taksmaster4450 that it is becoming less attractive to post stuff, but I think it`s because the competition is getting harder. I disagree with @taksmaster4450 in that people aren't allowed to post what they want. They actually post a heap of crap (which btw Mark Zuckerberg's filtering out for us automatically... most of the time...) 

Anyhow, I will soon start posting some quality content for you to see what I love about my funny little universe that might enrich your lifes. I am anxiously preparing for weeks now, because the air atop the trending list gets thiner and thiner... cross fingers!
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
I can see your Facebook posts if your posts are marked public for the whole world. I've always made posts public online. That is kind of the point for me. I want people to see it. But yeah, Twitter can be more public than Twitter and YouTube even more. Beyond that, Steem is even more public than all of them. I love how Steem competes with Minds, Gab, Bitchute, http://1776Free.com is new, Real Video, etc. I prefer Dlive over Dtube.
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@revisesociology ·
That's a little unfair. 

1% read something of what other people write.

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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Wow and one percent of 7 billion people could be a lot, generally.
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@imawreader ·
__Steemit is a social news community and not just like any other social media platform.__

Please follow and read articles posted in @steemitblog to know more developments to the platform. It's good to have these apps built on steem but there should be guidelines in using these apps. @steemitblog is raising awareness to this matter and how the public can identify contents made in Steemit and contents made from DApps. 

Steemit was envisioned to be a platform for authors. If the above mentioned will come to happen, we're only bringing in many users and not much published quality content for a social news community like Steemit.

While we can bring in many users for DApps, which more likely works like a social media app, contents posted on these apps should be identifiable from contents made in Steemit. 

In that sense, steem may be great in value and Steemit won't be referred as broken.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, Steem is many things, and that is why I love #InformationWar
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@plemmons ·
I am not sure what floats this boat for any of you but I personally like the community aspect I am finding here in only a months time that took a year on Twitter and Facebook was already built into it. As soon as I joined I had 200+ friends because they were ahead of me. And that was almost 20 Years ago. I haven't been down voted.... Yet. I see I have a few following me that are following 10,000 people. And there number rank is 3. What is that about? 

Oh well I'm going to shut up and read some more. 

I grew up in a church service. Literally. And the best sermons were the short ones. But just today I downloaded a sermon from 1750. I love history!

Most people won't read this either. But I get points on partiko that I can redeem for upvotes.๐Ÿ˜Ž

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@joeyarnoldvn ·
You downloaded the text from a 1750 sermon or like an audio reproduction of it? I love history and yeah, some try to follow a lot of people. I am following over 10K on Gab and like 30K on Minds but only like 7 or more on Steem. Yeah, some have a smaller reputation, like Bernie Sanders had a negative -13 score or something and some like 3 or 7 or something. I love the community aspect too. I'm oatmeal.
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@plemmons ·
I like the posts myself. But it's the comments that I love. Loved you in Terminator btw.

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@joeyarnoldvn ·
I like the posts I find at #InformationWar
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@simplymike ·
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I see your point, and I agree: it is time to change the idea we have of SteemIt. More andmore different kinds of content are going to appear through apps like Appics, DLike and others.

Although Appics announced that when the SMTs have been released, pictures posted through theif app won't be posted on SteemIt anymore. *But wait, maybe this will become an option in the app...*

Anyway, we need to get as many users on this blockchain as possible, and there are sacrifices we will need to make. But with a little luck, some time next year all different branches will have their own, different interface..

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@taskmaster4450 ·
>Although Appics announced that when the SMTs have been released, pictures posted through theif app won't be posted on SteemIt anymore. But wait, maybe this will become an option in the app...

Very interesting @simplymike.

Pictures do not go to the blockchain but the transactions related to the pics would end up there....as would comments associated with it.  As for posting the pics so they can be viewed on Steemit or other interfaces, that is an interesting topic.  Does an app share what is on their server so other interfaces can see it?  APPICs, it sounds like, does not want to share that content....only viewed from their app.

An interesting approach....I wonder the reasoning behind it.

Never considered it one way or another....gives me something to ponder.
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@phgnomo ·
That is the Idea of smts. Each smt Will do their own thing, independent of steemit, with transactions registered on steem blockchain.

I am starting to think if this Will actually be good for steem as a whole...
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah Mike, agreed, practice makes perfect, encouraging people to post more can help some of them to post, comment, create, develop, better, and everything, like basketball, you shoot more in practice to get better and Steem should be practice and like a real game at the same time.
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@simplymike ·
I can.only agree with that, @joeyarnoldvn.
By writing a lot, you become a better writer.
And by experimenting with the different dApps, maybe one can discover a new talent
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@ats-david ·
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>So which is more valuable? 75M people or 250M people?
>Do you want STEEM at $100? $500? Even $1000?

You make this and a few other assumptions about users/visitors and prices. Iโ€™m wondering how you arrive at these numbers, without it being based on something completely unscientific, such as โ€œFacebook is worth X,โ€ or โ€œIf we had as many accounts as Reddit...โ€

>My goal is for STEEM to be as successful as possible. 

It appears that your criteria for โ€œsuccessโ€ is the price of the STEEM token. So how do you think we can achieve higher prices by simply acquiring more users who can then earn and sell the blockchainโ€™s tokens? There is no revenue and distribution model to monetize all of the added eyeballs on the interfaces, so using traditional social media valuations for the Steem blockchain doesnโ€™t exactly work. 

>Mass appeal is what STEEM needs.

Is it? I mean, it could be helpful if you think more users = higher STEEM prices. But adding tens of millions of active users could lead to bloat and stress on the network which then leads to decreased performance...and user frustration. 

In this article, you didnโ€™t mention the unique aspect of Steem where resources are limited and coded into the blockchain (and about to change with HF20) and where there is a shared pool of rewards that only have any monetary value because of speculative investment. The entire โ€œqualityโ€ argument is premised on what โ€œweโ€ want, but the price assumptions seem to disregard what speculators/investors may actually care about. 

One last thing Iโ€™d like to add is - I think too many of us get the โ€œqualityโ€ assumptions wrong. Contributing โ€œqualityโ€ content isnโ€™t about our subjective opinions on particular content that we like. *Quality* has more to do with whether or not the content offered is new/original or copied (or plagiarized) and whether or not the content offered is of a popular subject (having the ability to โ€œgo viralโ€) or highly-sought information. 

Anyone can post whatever they want, so long as they have the necessary minimum resources allocated by protocol to do so. But that doesnโ€™t mean that their contributions of content *ought* to be rewarded and nobody should be *expecting* rewards. 

The biggest problem we have with user retention is a wild expectation of becoming rich, then massive disappointment when that doesnโ€™t happen for most users (which is no different than other social media). These expectations need to be better managed and we should do a better job of explaining all of this to new users. But the thing is...our interfaces really donโ€™t have much to offer users other than the hope of making some money, which is why user activity appears to be tied to STEEM prices. 

Long story short...we need a better culture and something actually appealing to offer to social media users. Without the latter, we canโ€™t even get to the former...and without the former, the latter isnโ€™t very appealing. If we fail at both, then worrying about the masses and what kind of content they want to share is moot. They wonโ€™t care about the Steem blockchain - but it can be argued that a *successful* (a term you used in this post) platform wouldnโ€™t even need them to. 

That really should be the goal for any *social* platform: whether it has mass appeal without the allure of getting paid to use it.
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@markkujantunen · (edited)
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It appears that your criteria for โ€œsuccessโ€ is the price of the STEEM token. So how do you think we can achieve higher prices by simply acquiring more users who can then earn and sell the blockchainโ€™s tokens? 
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The masses of new users will NOT be earning ANYTHING. On the contrary, some of them will use money to pay for some of the content, and all of them will be targets of data mining and advertising.

<blockquote>
There is no revenue and distribution model to monetize all of the added eyeballs on the interfaces, so using traditional social media valuations for the Steem blockchain doesnโ€™t exactly work.
</blockquote>

The apps can sell ad space.

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<i>Mass appeal is what STEEM needs.</i>

Is it? 
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Absolutely! Monetizing the attention of the crowds <i>is</i> the very value proposition of Steem. If it is never achieved, this project will fail and the price of STEEM will go to zero.

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I mean, it could be helpful if you think more users = higher STEEM prices. But adding tens of millions of active users could lead to bloat and stress on the network which then leads to decreased performance...and user frustration.
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That's why the focus in development is on maximizing scalability. That's why marketing has been on the backburner.

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In this article, you didnโ€™t mention the unique aspect of Steem where resources are limited and coded into the blockchain (and about to change with HF20) and where there is a shared pool of rewards that only have any monetary value because of speculative investment. The entire โ€œqualityโ€ argument is premised on what โ€œweโ€ want, but the price assumptions seem to disregard what speculators/investors may actually care about.
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The price of STEEM cannot rely on speculators forever. It's going to be based on massive traffic and ad revenue + STEEM being bought by users to pay for services. An additional source of value for STEEM is the fact that it's a very convenient cross-border payment method. The larger the user base, the greater the number of STEEM always held, however temporarily.

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One last thing Iโ€™d like to add is - I think too many of us get the โ€œqualityโ€ assumptions wrong. Contributing โ€œqualityโ€ content isnโ€™t about our subjective opinions on particular content that we like. Quality has more to do with whether or not the content offered is new/original or copied (or plagiarized) and whether or not the content offered is of a popular subject (having the ability to โ€œgo viralโ€) or highly-sought information.
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The idea that Steem can forever remain a platform for quality content producers who get paid for quality content on speculators' dime is downright laughable.
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Anyone can post whatever they want, so long as they have the necessary minimum resources allocated by protocol to do so. But that doesnโ€™t mean that their contributions of content ought to be rewarded and nobody should be expecting rewards.
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In the future, most users will be paying customers or the product themselves (by virtue of being targets for ads). 

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The biggest problem we have with user retention is a wild expectation of becoming rich, then massive disappointment when that doesnโ€™t happen for most users (which is no different than other social media). These expectations need to be better managed and we should do a better job of explaining all of this to new users. But the thing is...our interfaces really donโ€™t have much to offer users other than the hope of making some money, which is why user activity appears to be tied to STEEM prices.
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I agree, which is why Steem the blockchain should not be marketed at all except to developers interested in developing decentralized apps. The last thing we should do is market Steem as a platform to make money to the general public. The general public need not even know that Steem exists in the first place. All they need to know is the cool apps. The fact that they use some "blockchain" called Steem as their data and money layer should not concern the average future user at all.

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Long story short...we need a better culture and something actually appealing to offer to social media users. Without the latter, we canโ€™t even get to the former...and without the former, the latter isnโ€™t very appealing. If we fail at both, then worrying about the masses and what kind of content they want to share is moot. 
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Steem culture as it currently is is largely irrelevant. The Steem experience of future Steem users will probably be quite siloed and app-centric. Each app with possibly an SMT of its own will have a community of its own. 

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They wonโ€™t care about the Steem blockchain - but it can be argued that a successful (a term you used in this post) platform wouldnโ€™t even need them to.
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Exactly! What needs to be marketed is the cool apps with money transfer functionality is a nice bonus. It ultimately rests on the app  developers to figure out their market and how to tap into it.
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@maski ·
this guy is scum of the steemit , if you gave him your witness vote you should take it back immediately .
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@maski ·
you can downvote all you want it is not going to change the fact that you are scum and people should check how you rape this platform together with your stripper girlfriend . fucking scumbag
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@maski ·
trying to appear smart here , fucking fraudster
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@rajbhavsar ·
YOU ARE RIGHT..!!!!
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@personz ·
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Okay that's fine, but what actual action are you advocating? This seems like a piece without a purpose except expressing annoyance at people who are interested in so-called quality posts.

Are you saying we should all vote for what we like? But we already do that. Are you defending self voting? Or against flagging / downvoting as motivated by quality? Or are you asking people to just stop talking about quality?

I would contend that the rejection of so-called quality posts as the only use of Steem has long evaporated so it's not clear what the point of this post is.

In other words, it's not high quality. ๐Ÿ˜œ
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@phgnomo ·
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The point is to call people to stop the "crusade" for quality posts.
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@personz ·
If so then it's about telling people what they should post about. Which is pretty counter to the spirit of things on the platform.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
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This post raises awareness to how things are, have been, which encourages and empowers some people to have more confidence in doing what they were destined to do in whatever they may be doing, writing, posting, recording, <b>Oatmealing haha,</b> sharing, or whatever, and it can help give some people some peace in knowing it is ok if they're being bullied for something they might have done or not have have done here or there or anywhere. Some of us can, if we don't already, promote Steem to become more like Gab and Minds in some ways, as they don't have a 20 second comment wait as we have on Steem for example. Gab has paid subscriptions and Minds allow peer to peer money sending like Steem. It is good to talk about what we like, dislike, even as others have already talked about some of this before. It is a step in the right direction in the long run.
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@personz ·
Fair enough, it's good to encourage people, very important even. But I think this post is going beyond that and I'm curious about what people are taking home here. Good to get your perspective, thanks.
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@kryptik ·
OH YEAH? WHY IS THIS ARTICLE WRITTEN WITH LIKE SOMEONE CARES THEN? 

Riddle me that Batman.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Time will tell.
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@hijosdelhombre ·
Someday, sooner than later, **we will be talking about Steem without knowing, like lot of websites uses Google Auth or FacebookConnect and you just don't think about it too much**. 

Some people will like DTube, other DLive, or Dsound, or whatever new Dapp appears.

The big filter of quality will be the people, poor quality posts or actions in this blockchain will not have prosperity, as you change the main reward from a mental masturbation to money, content will change to more interesting ideas.
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@phgnomo ·
Well, look at that... Looks that somebody is thinking as i am...

I started to think about this a few months Ago, and even wrote a post stating that steem needs to decide what It is( social media or content platform).

In my opinion, the way steem works, It doesnt function as a content platform, because a quick comparison with something like YouTube on How the author recieve for his work wont incentivize Any professional creator to use steemit.

The payout model incentivize Quick content.

Also, you Gave something Else to think a about:

Is the creating of SMT actually be good or steem?

I mean, the dapps work. Appics works, steepshot Works, dtube Works, dlike Works.... Why not use steem? What is the need for them to have their own coin?
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@adarshh ·
the world is full of platforms that have poor content (according to me). i was always hoping that steemit would not be that. i guess we have two choices:
1. add more garbage
2. clean it up

i personally prefer the latter
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Why not both?
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@lequocvuongpro ·
I was upvoted for you, if you follow me, i will follow back, grow up together!!
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@quotes-haven ·
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You are absolutely right. You can't have both. It's either quality or quantity. If you are looking for quality, a lot of people will not make the cut and Steem will not take off. 
As it is, Steemit is a platform open to all, and it's up to each individual to decide what they want to do here. 
If you want quality, steer clear of the trash. Just remember that without the trash, you might not be as successful as you wished.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
When you encourage quantity, you create quality. When I am shooting a quantity amount of shots, when practicing basketball, I increase in my quality, my skills, to become more like Michael Jordan. You encourage people to shoot, to play, to post, comment, share, etc, and that helps in many different ways.
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Point taken. :-)
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@farhan.sidiqui ·
Quality does matter but I am unable to realize any difference here so far :)
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@printskill · (edited)
@taskmaster4450 Good informative post on quality matter of Steem contents. This is true that many of us and new comers have fear to post content because of the hype about the good content. Majority of new comers does not get attention from the community because the whales is only operating Steem who have big amount of SP, Steem Token and Steem Dollar. Bots are here actively watching every post and replying quickly where some contents found on other resources. 

The restriction for quality content is good but there should be some freedom and flexibility for new users. They should be given time to improve their quality of content. Encouraging and motivating reply should be mailed to the registered users encouraging about the quality in spite of directly replying on the post.  Moral of new comers are getting down due the frequently disturbance by the bots. 

By the way, Steem could be the best platform among other social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter etc because of it's rewarding pattern. But it is still slow and time consuming process. Upvoting, replying and resteeming should be fast. This is my opinion. What do you think about it? @printskill
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@ronel ·
Oh my gosh!
The authors had been declined primarily on the decline as well of steem value obviously in my own analysis.

Yeah, Steemit is going from blogging to a social media. Anything and everything we can do here on Steemit, and its up to the readers to upvote or to flag contents.

I need some !popcorn and !pancakes
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
I like both, blogging, micro blogging like Twitter and Tumblr and Gab, and social networking, all of these combined, and Steem can be all of these things and more, and they are, and they can continue to develop all of those things, the apps, more, and to maybe not censor too much or whatever.........
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@ronel ·
Oh yeah!

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@techguru97 ·
Really I didn't get it but it look awesome I wish you will be in my following list
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@boomerang ·
This post has received a 49.58 % upvote from @boomerang.
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@ganjafarmer ·
Here is my day. 

Got ordered to war against someone.  Wasn't even awake.  And I'm not going to flag war someone just because you order me to..  Hang on that's coming back.... 

Next up.  Really amazing post.  This guy is starting to get life and open his eyes.  But he is thinking cowpocylapse is actually a real thing.  Literally cow farts from cattle are making methane and destroying the planet.  

Oh wow.  You would have thought the sky has fallen.  Shrug.  Wow.  

So now drama A and drama B  are threatening to flag...  Well I'm delegating to drama b...  So if they flag do I self flag? 

But inclusion is what I'm about from the Portland Oregon meet-ups to getting others on here?  Throwing votes?  

I left @canna-curate because they refused to help the way I wanted.  Instead of getting votes?  I wanted my vote power to have Cannabis community on my votes.  Free promotion and instead of getting votes I'm handing them out.  I'm including them.  And welcoming them to the community. 

So now I've got a clique threatening war and flags. 

Also been promoting help for a 15 year old human trafficking victim.  That's under fire.  

But we want to save this?  Let's start including people and stop the wars.  

And I've totally been told if I copy and paste this and that it makes it quality.  Or you have to write it like a "professional " writer... 

So I've turned down groups because of these "quality" standards. 

Hey I'm posting from my phone.  I'm on a fixed income and building steem to hopefully get a chance for a stable life for me and the dog.  I'm homeless in a van.  

Now I have 2 of these so-called positive groups threatening flags and war.  

And I've actually done a big amount of work.  And promoted Steemit.  And with all the bs drama?  Yeah why not just farm out my stake and let it just grow.  Who cares.  Why post if everyone is so ready to fight.  

But then again...  Do we want this to fail or grow? 

I'm seeing my so called "friends" turn and jump on me.  Instantly.  Today.  And with unfounded allegations and the inability to have a rational discussion. 

But hey I'm not interested in being ordered to war with someone. Hell I hate drama.  

But yeah again why should. I help and support steemit?  

Huge learning lesson.  Steemians are not always your friends.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
$0.02
I've lived in PDX, I like to keep Portland weird, and I volunteered at Free Geek Computers, and yeah, the dramas all around, oh buddy, and I was homeless in Vietnam, and I was also teaching English at other times in Vietnam, and life is full of these twists and turns and Steem is full of potential and is growing like Bitcoin and other things and it takes work and patience and many things.
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@guruvaj ·
I do agree with you. Quality is a very subjective word in blogging.
I will add, steemit users should generously upvote content of their likes, read, watch content, and give upvotes and resteem, by doing this in a regular basis, will surely enrourage many steemians to use steem as a storage of value and a mean of exchange.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Agreed.
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@outtheshellvlog ·
> I see many who call posts on here crap. Please tell me the names of the Steemians who are on the crap committee and make such decisions.

For me a crap post is something that's just posted and then artificially inflated by vote bot bidding.  These are posts that are just one or two words or a small quip about something.  It's another story all together for me when it's not vote botted to hell and back and grows naturally because it's actually good content.  It doesn't have to be a whole long blog post, it can be a video/YT Embed or can even be a simple image/meme or something funny textually.  A one liner quip can be a good post.

When I say something is crap, I mean it's crap to me.  And if I see that a crappy post is up in the ranks because of vote bots, it leads me to believe the poster of the crap post also believes it to be shite too.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
It is like an auction. They wouldn't be able to upvote their posts that much if there was enough pull in other directions, that is upvotes, from people, from bots, for other posts, as the rewards pool of Steem is limited and mathematically, hypothetically, maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but maybe someday better posts will trend more and more that is as Steem grows and assuming that better posts can outnumber the other posts, and assuming that those better posts can somehow be voted on more often, by people, bots, whatever, and that kind of happens already at times, and it is a tug-a-war match going back and forth.
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@outtheshellvlog ·
Eh, I've just learned a good while back that the front page just doesn't have quality posts, ever.  You have to actually go into Steemit based discord servers that have a "Self Promotion" category to find the good stuff much of the time.  Would be superior actually to have newest posts period on the front page instead.  At least that way it's always changing and always fresh.
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@andyka.saputra ·
Resteemed 

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@the-ego-is-you · (edited)
>To start, STEEM Is NOT a blogging platform. While it started out that way, things evolve and change. 

This sounds a lot like the "Bitcoin may have started out one way, but now it needs to change" claim. Difference is STEEM itself was actually _never_ a complete blogging platform. Steemit is a different animal from the network that enables it. 

There was never a complete design that had to be set in its way and no expectation that things would stay the same forever. With Bitcoin this was instead explicitly a requirement. Not that none of the code would change of course, but that the fundamental design would stay the same for stability reasons and to remain sound money.

STEEM can adapt and evolve much more fluidly. As long as the network remains, it can support any number of apps or new concepts using its inflation based crowd funding mechanism or "potluck".
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Agreed.
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@iloveyoga ·
I'm dissapointed when I put quality content out there and it doesn't even get views probably, while some people post crap and copy-paste posts and get hundreds of dollars for that. I don't see the logic here. I'm new so that may be the reason, but still, it isn't motivating really.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, that is true.
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@eccles ·
Well Vitalik Buterin and Jackson Palmer did say that we need to attract a more casual audience, but without an ad revenue model already in place starting a flood of "shitposting" may be for naught.

It's certainly a discussion worth having, because whatever the platform-movers decide to do, the time is now!
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@alokkumar121 ·
Quality is of course very much important but having control on all posts is very difficult and what would be the criteria to decide the quality status.

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@skiponline ·
some interesting views you have... I guess I would fall in under the non quality posts, you see I just like to write, and my posts are written on my OWN site, and posted here through Steempress. The main problem I see here isn't the number of users and trying to increase them, although that is always good, but the number of people writing/posting here that look at Steemit as a job. They think they have to post and post more to try to make more steem, and they form little cliques who all run around from each others posts and upvote each other and p[at each other on the back. Steemit isn't a job... and as much as you want to say it isn't a blogging platform, you are sadly mistaken. It is, and I can't see that changing anytime soon, you can add all the apps you want, doesn't make a bit of difference. 
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
I should probably try Steempress and I've used Wordpress. Are they similar? Treating Steem as a job is a bit too dangerous, like gambling away all your money in Las Vegas, because most people lose when they play Poker, when they play these games, and people want to win, and some maybe do win sometimes, but a lot of people can lose a lot more than they may  earn, get, win, when gambling, or whatever. So, skate at your own risk. Swim at your own risk. Oatmeal at your own risk. Plat at your own risk. Steem at your own risk, everybody, boys and girls and bots of all ages.
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@imawreader · (edited)
This user has some points but I kind of don't like how she/he thinks. If it'll happen, I think users here won't be called authors as they do not publish contents like how people in Steemit Inc envisioned Steemit to be. 

It's good that we have these apps built on Steem, but don't you think it's better to not have these apps do cross posting to Steemit Platform? Like how Twitter is Twitter, and how Facebook is Facebook. In that sense, steem may be great in value and Steemit won't be referred as broken. 

Well, it's just my opinion.
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@funbobby51 ·
here here! well said. You are exactly right, I have been on for some time yet I gave serious consideration to quitting after some self appointed arbiter of quality decided that using Parley was plagiarism! So as long as we have idiots who don't know what plagiarism is randomly flagging people that will be a huge turnoff.
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@zahid0406 ·
Open photograph.
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@feelsomoon ·
You said it spot on. Quality and steem success will not work out. I prefer to have success and I have muted many who just complain about quality. Its moronic to thin so many people have something of substance to offer. As you mentioned we all have different interest and we should just hope steem is a way to gain some money and value out of our general interests. If steem continues to grow I hope many will understand that to attract the masses you have to be open to all the stuff they are interested in. I see to much hate for steemit to grow at a quick rate but I hope that changes with time.
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@physics-o-mania · (edited)
The best idea is to do Steemit to Wordpress rather than Wordpress to Steemit and drop the idea of quality. This is my layman opinion. I don't know whether that is possible or not. But, it will help the author gain both STEEM and the earning from his blog while Steemit still being their primary posting site. In this way, Steemit will not lose its subscribers.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, it would be better to make it easier to share Steem to Wordpress, and I'm already sharing Steem to Facebook, Twitter, Gab, Minds.
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@msicc ·
I partly agree, what is referred to as quality is the decisions every user. I am sure we would see a lot of new users if 

- registration would be easier
- the โ€œquality policeโ€ would lessen their expectations 
- more developers build apps that are not focused on making fast money

Sadly, I donโ€™t see anything of that happen anytime soon.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Agreed.
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@amar-patel ·
You have explained very well with respect to other social media platforms. Over internet there is audience for every type of content.
If anybody creating good content and nobody giving attention, it disappoint a lot but that doesn't mean there is no audience who love good content.
To build reputation among your audience is very tough job and takes time.good thing happened to those who wait and work consistently .
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @taskmaster4450!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steemit Hit Parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20180910) in the following categories:

* Comments - Ranked 4 with 136 comments
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@cambridgeport90 ·
Thank you! I've said this before on my presence up here, as well. Needs to be said; the more people demonstrate the importance of this, the more it will grow as a thing. I've set up some folks on SteemAuto; you included. You know who else? Witness @klye; not only do I think he's hilarious, but he's so totally down to earth; he swears, he speaks his mind. That's what we need up here, not "quality". Just WTF is quality?
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, Holy Oatmeal, WTF is quality, and can I eat it haha?
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@cambridgeport90 ·
Another one who agrees. Thank you!
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@dennismyke254 ·
O my God that's the thing it's good for guys to update steemit users about crypto market and what's latest on crypto world but yap we need to make steemit more fun i say need cat video and the like's  what do you think guys i agree with : taskmaster4450 ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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@master-set ·
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Totally agree. I also think that we should not mass up ALL the content in one messy feed. It's just too much variation: articles, videos, selfies, memes, discussions, blogs you name it. Its better for various dApps to concentrate on various content,and STEEM as a back end be invisivble, connected underlying database of all this dApps specialized feeds. 

STEEM will be great when averege user will not even know he using STEEM. He uses dTube or Actifit or whathever
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@joeyarnoldvn · (edited)
# Steem Cars? 
Yeah, that is the I'm Spartacus Steem Secret (SSS), like different car companies all using the same Steem wheels. Busy, Steemit, Dlive, Dtube, Ulogs, Steepshot, and other apps, are built on the Steem blockchain, and Steem is like the foundation, the wheels, the structure, like a main frame for a computer, like an empty fridge...

# Different flavors of ice-cream... 
And we can go out spreading different versions, flavors, of Steem, similar to how there are different flavors of that Linux operating system (OS), that is Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Mate, etc, and they are all basically Ubuntu but just a little different and that is good.
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@crypto.talk ·
Thanks for sharing this. This the longest post I read in a while, really "high quality"!

100% agree that people only read content they care about, and people care about weird things! 

I think at the infrastructure level, it's hard for Steem as a blockchain to have its own goals of user adoption, and think about what kind of users it wants to adopt. In a good architecture, different layers have different focuses, and it should be the dApps' job to figure out what problem they can solve and how to add value to people lives.

I'm the creator of the Partiko app and we are trying to improve people's experience with the Steem blockchain. Hopefully we can figure out a solution for massive adoption!

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://steemit.com/@partiko-android)
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@minhquang3869 ·
Hi pro, can you tell me how to earn STEEM DOLLARS?
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@markus.light ·
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You have right only interned it none it is only about the money. The above want even more and the below get only crumbs.
So that the desire passes to them. First the 7 days rule belongs away .
Usw could make many suggestions but as said the above interested not that. combed only on deaf ears .Lg from austria
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@vlemon ·
We all want STEEM to increase, no matter the path we follow
Apps as Steepshot, Partiko or ASICS are the one that will drive mass adoption and increasing prices ! 

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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Partiko is a neat phone app for Steem.
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@adolforivas42 ·
Ok I know what you mean, but dont you think that you are being mind closed?. You are applying your own filters to what you see, based in your moral and proffessional concepts, but people are not forced to think like you. That is why some stupid songs can be worldwide successful, its just because people likes it, but not necessarily have to like to us. And the "low quality" publications are a simple consequence of the freedom that this platform gave to us, just enjoy it and stop the "witchhunting"... the "witches" are enjoying this platform like you.
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@shekhlab ·
@taskmaster4450 thank you for giving us the stairs of success. we are just thinking about how to be success on #steemit
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@mysearchisover ·
$0.03
You should tell that to Steemit Inc so they stop killing accounts with delegations to fla**ers.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
When you say killing, you mean flagging or terminating?
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@mysearchisover ·
$0.04
Fla**ing into oblivion. Sometimes they also pull delegations but usually that is more deserved.
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@christitus ·
I think you missed the point. Steem has a problem with promoting quality content. Half of trending is just bot up voted trash. This drives away regular users because no one likes seeing a bunch of shit posts. Here is an article I wrote on why steem doesn't have mainstream appeal. https://steemit.com/steem/@christitus/steem-and-the-bot-infestation

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@steevc ·
It depends on what you mean by 'quality'. What Steemit needs is compelling posts that attract a big audience. It needs some big names who will bring in their fans. It seems if you are famous enough you can post any old crap :) What it doesn't need is people posting memes they copied elsewhere and then buying votes for them. That makes it look bad.

We really need content that people cannot get elsewhere. Persuade some celebrities to sign up and do some exclusives. The issue for the really big names is that it's too small an audience right now, so we have a chicken/egg issue. Maybe it can work if we can get more talented people who don't make much else elsewhere. If they each bring in a few hundred fans then we have the start of something.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
$0.04
We have Trending. Maybe we should add a Recommended tab or something like Editor's Picks, like what you may see on some websites. Maybe Steem could have a trending section that is only that from human curation combined with total amount of comments and views perhaps. Maybe, there should be more filters, a better search engine, more choices, to help users find what they want to see, follow, etc.
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@jaofran ·
I absolutely like this blog and it seems so stressing that the value of Steem is based on account users numbers and comparing it to media giants where they focus on advertisement rather than content.
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@aunik ·
Quality creation always have value in any platform...If the bloger,s motive is positive it can help people from different direction.
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@sayeds1956 · (edited)
Nice post. Huge success on steemit will follow once crypto market comes out of bearish cycle. Profitability drives the whole bushiness. Look at steem price today and what it was one year ago.
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@estefania3 ·
Hola! pues si la verdad es que para muchos no es fรกcil la idea de enfocarse en publicar contenido de "calidad", como se ha querido categorizar las publicaciones. Pienso que si, se debe tratar de hacer contenido agradable a la vista, pero sin tanto formalismo, es una red social, se supone que es nuestro espacio donde podemos expresarnos y al hacer todo con un margen de "calidad" estamos perdiendo un poco la esencia de lo que realmente queremos plasmar. Y si, claro que desanima un poco que dediques 4 o 5 horas en un post y no tomen en cuenta tu contenido, es esfuerzo perdido. Esperemos que si exista una nueva generaciรณn en Steemit que derroque esos viejos paradigmas para que mas personas se interesen en la plataforma, no abandonen, y ganemos todos por igual. :)

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Hello! Well if the truth is that for many is not easy the idea of focusing on publishing content of "quality", as they wanted to categorize the publications. I think that yes, you should try to make content pleasing to the eye, but without so much formalism, is a social network, it is supposed to be our space where we can express ourselves and by doing everything with a margin of "quality" we are losing a little essence of what we really want to capture. And if, of course, it discourages a little that you dedicate 4 or 5 hours in a post, and they do not take into account your content, it is a lost effort. Let's hope that if there is a new generation in Steemit that overthrows those old paradigms so that more people are interested in the platform, do not give up, and we all win equally. :)
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@mikefromtheuk ·
The Quality Content Nazi's put me off, just post whatever you want to post. 
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@doubletroubles ·
I said many times that you can not make something successful only with the quality because a quality post needs days and efforts tod be good and I dont mind to wait if I know that I will have a nice picture, story or dyi stuff after a week but if you want to grow something fast and to make money then you need daily posts no matter what so much.
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@udabeu ·
Yes, I think I am doing quite high quality posts every day, 4 posts a day to get the badge. 
And I also think I could rise the quality level up some bits, but am waiting until I may believe more quality is required.
I also upvote resteem and comment on posts I think are quality posts.
The most I would like to receive some steem power to support quality posts. 
But it is all going so slow, and as an artist I think I cannot use all theese tools properly, not understanding them really.
Hmm.
![DSCF3189.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmVHJE14eMmF1ogHKMtB4pUXg8vCK1rhGmtaxRVK8Qcbcd/DSCF3189.jpg)
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@skycornish ·
Great post, all the negativity is ruining Steemit.  Thanks for trying to get this message across!
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@bobwillow ·
An open market decides what the future holds by what is popular and what is profitable.  Opinions matter none to the Unconscious direction free markets travel.  We will all exist in this abundance no matter our content or interests.  I think even @dantheman might agree.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Agreed, I love free markets and all of that, how it works, and all, is better, in the long-run.
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@jonny-clearwater ·
People are free to post whatever they want...doesn't mean i'm going to vote for it.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Haha, yeah, what he said.
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@surpassinggoogle ·
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> Hi bro, I left you this comment below days ago. You may have missed. kindly read through. it will give you additional insight into this very post of yours

Once in the past, but long after you wrote the article. I saw you wrote about #ulog. I am so so so grateful. 

I am weak and sick and very mute and my suffering is among the intensest in the world and this has been for decades. I am with my dad each 24/7 taking care of my dad who has all sorts of ailment. He carried a similar dream. Everyday i hear his wailing and i am told that if i don't stop, i will be like him. My mum died. She knew of me in relation to world-adjustment and all and i watched her die. She gave me looks. She didn't tell me to stop. She never did. She knows i won't stop. I am doing one last push for this year. Perhaps, after that i will have my first sleep. I have slept in years. My dad doesn't either. This is all unknown or un-understood, even when explained, so i play things out, my entire breakdown but by means of beautiful disruptions. Ulog is one. It so looks very simple and all but the reason for this comment is, i know i will return here one day, to talk to you about what ulog really is as the simplest of movements, that adjusted the world.
I wrote a very short post. I will let you look at it. https://ulogs.org/@surpassinggoogle/the-ulog-movement-is-4-months-old-and-has-already-been-used-by-5070-unique-steem-accounts-it-has-seen-around-45-000-posts-and

You will understand. I am working for alpha to be announced soon. For alpha, it will be filled with words, moreso than designs but these words will give large insight into the vimission and gradually instill a culture, an entire curriculum, then a movement. The teardrops smt is a breakthrough token, an emblem of human, that will reward proof of tears.
Now ulogging looks like a simple fun art but the art of ulogging "mines the human". Ulogs aren't just a type of content involving U (YOU) and your freshness per day. It is a means to reshape the entire internet by gifting to it, at least once a day i.e not resourcing from it, while ulogging. This way, we serve the search engines with ulogacies etc, take light by means of our own shine into every space and into every tunnel, so much so that "not any longer do masses in tunnels" need to wait till "the end of tunnel etc".
By ulogging per day, even by means of your #ulog-memes or #ulog-quotes etc you create content that the world hasn't seen because it is born out of your creation per day i.e the text and graphics that constitute the ulog-memes but by doing this, you manage to mine the human, evolve and tap into lost or redundant shine, attaining "true celebrityhood". Now couple that with "true fans" which ulogs.org incentivizes your way, you will be signing autographs soon etc. 
Alot is happening and will happen on there but it is unspoken of just yet. Basically, we will refresh every steem tag and world tag and create new trends. Simple add ulog to any existing enterprise or concept and it is suddenly refreshed. This birth ulog-subtags and births fresh communities and this is happening. It gladdens me that this is happening so organically, without much awareness etc comment network that i have seen building up, the fun it brings and it being as difficult as 1, 2, 3. 
I say steem success isn't measure by bulls or bears in an older post. The short post here containing recent stats shows that and my entire tired being is glad about this. 
Ulogs.org is build around certified uloggers. The site will carry their names celebrating it in every space regardless of sp levels etc. If they organically start their ulog-subtag and they are verified, we will adopt it on the site manually and try to support them to growing the new found community and their own dreams and passion as well. 
True adjusting the world especially even now in the presence of blockchain is not in algorithms to distribute rewards. The world has been built upon this and blockchain in its beauty is to beautifully disrupt this moreso than replay it. This is where ulog comes in. A very simple concept but imagine ulog, just like blog, vlog etc adopted too by every site, the wikis, the dictionaries etc. 
e.g ulogs.org/@taskmaster4450/ulogs
I didnt plan to write this much, so i will stop here but i am sure soon, when i can think well and have some energy, you will have you hashtag area on ulogs.org
The plan is however small my power is, to give certified uloggers who oversea the different ulog-subtags extra power to become "true fans" of users of these spaces and organically grow it. It isn't all set as this happens manually currently but #ulog-quotes and #ulography has got some adoption etc
Alot of beautiful things will happen. A feeling of ownership will help alot even in place where sp is limited. Knowing you give out some cents etc to "true fans" of your dream, ulog-subtag and its community is something.
Then we have uloggerstv to create activities and new trends that will enter into every space in the real world.
The token teardrops is going to reward this. Basically it is a token that we want to be loved for the stories, histories, ulogacies it represents and especially as an emblem of human. To succeed bulls or bears because humans are involved.
How do we measure "proof of tears" then. According to me and in a video response once in the past to @stellabelle i said world adjustment is simple and according to me, lies in "mining the human into its awesomest version" to levels where "humanity is the brother next to you. We lose human and begin into outerspace. blockchain when you look at it closely is very much a tool to bring us back down to earth but if this isn't noticed, we will simply build techs that exist but this time on a blockchain model and simply replay what exists and go even further back into outerspace. Anyway that aside.
Now on the route to mining the human into its awesomenst version is where there will be many tears, sad, happy, unfell etc. We want to reward each of this tears. 
To accomplish proof of tears thus, we apply the use of an entire curriculum but play this out with steem interfaces modelled to mine the human. This where these interfaces coming in.
I am so so so weak and pushing but i have in mind and plans for 3 interfaces before smt at least in alpha stage. I am very much a lone soldier for now, till the model is set. 
Ulogs.org is 4 interfaces in one. Basically it is ulog but with three other paradigms. #untalented #teardrops #surpassinggoogle. This is obvious in many of the things we will do. e.g a greylist instead of black and white and an un_dis_talented oracle if we make use of one. etc
you will notice the editors playing out teardrops and untalented also on ulogs.org/teardrops & ulogs.org/untalented and the hashtags spaces ulogs.org/created/untalented and ulogs.org/created/teardrops where the header text tells of what the vimission is about.
I always want to keep interfaces free especially because of the audiences involved. But ulogs.org will have a small beneficiary cut likely 0.5 percent or 0.2 with steemit inc as beneficiary, not only to stir community, remind peopple of steem's beauty and success but also to teach life etc and especially express that giveback can also be done to people with millions as we measure "human" in our paradigm. For instance, would you know that i starve each day, i cant wear a shirt and my dad wears rags. his meds alone each day is 50 usd. I am extremely ill to work etc and don't sleep, i dont eat and with a nervous problem from ages of brainstorming etc plus, i almost never ask. hahaha, an entire tired being can't ask, he just waits and drowns etc. so ulogs.org has paradigms to instill many things and mines the human. using the fun activity of ulogging
Second interface is steemgigs.org which is hold for now. This is modelled to mine the human as well and create dreambuilders as opposed to just freelancers or talents. There will also be room for the un_dis_talented etc. free gigs as dreambuilders want to be part of historical history in brother's dream and can apply their talent to use on behalf of a brother een in the jungle etc. There will also be a knowledge bank that incentivizes specialized knowledge contributions based solely on eperience. See steemgigs.org/surpassing-google
We want even the non-experts to learn and get expertise directly from the knowledgebank created by other dream builders. this knowledge-bank will create specialized knowledge but with a "school of life" paradigm e.g today i studied module 20 of photoshop but there came a power cut. how i reacted. did i break the pc, did i create a new kind of pc, did i get a candle and continued reading from a book etc
All along unlike just a frelanceing marketplace, we want to serve the search engines etc "surpassinggoogle"
The tihrid interface of the model is called macrohard. adding swag to the world of coding to where everyone can code.
to create a more universal language especially using blockchain in the full expnace of its beauty etc to bring everyone into being able to code. Is this possible, so yes and with case study in the development of ulogs.org. After alot of disaponment, i applied more use for good and thought of how to bring everyone into coding and remove barriers of "levels of experritise, programinng language and all and it was possible. every time i talk to devs. many times the solution is in the logic. they spend days stuck in code and simpe conversation and we solve it with simple replication logic. and yes much of the delays came from lack of communication.
Beyond that though, the world itself complicates things. keeping intel in the hands of leaders etc but bloackchain is cctv into the world. it bares things with an open ledger and basically, the solution for codes is microprogramming tasks in place of programming tasks and suddenly everyone can code
Now this where swag comes in. Adding somoe school of life into coding as well. so that coders become more of brothers as well and the whoe codestory changes and we enter levels of historical history.
Basiclally, with macrohard we are adding "mining the human" into the coding ecosystem
Overall, enroute all this there will be tears, happy, sad or unfell and the teardrops smt, together we will celebrate these tears.
Teardrops is will have an untalentedly written colorlesspaper, not black or white. Every kid must understand it. We hope this is one token that will bring about mainstreamity for crypto globally. in place of cryptokitties, superman and all, we will celebrate "human' with the token. 
These are the things i see. 
I wrote this hurried and tiredly, kindly sift my nonsense to find some sense therein.
If you know of a coder who can help me as well, i would so love it. He can contribute using utopian as these days, i have been doing task requests and utopian has been helping me reward contributors. 
I have two open task requests currently. 

your boy terry
@surpassinggoogle

See also ulogs.org/created/ulog-snookmademedoit etc<br/><div class="pull-right promo"><sub><p>This comment was made from https://ulogs.org</p></sub></div>
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@samic · (edited)
The success of your projects tells us clearly that this is the way.
We are human and as such the focus in this blockchain must also be directed to the human aspect, then it embraces us all, without exclusion and as you say: "everyone has something to offer".
<br/><div class="pull-right promo"><sub><p>This comment was made from https://ulogs.org</p></sub></div>
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@rdsmas ·
Vaya que artรญculo en un comentario, me gusta el concepto de #ulog es atractivo pero siento que algo estรก faltando y no se que es. Por su parte Steem el declive violento de Steem este aรฑo ha demostrado que tiene la vigencia del pionero que cada vez verรก nuevos contendientes con el concepto de popularizaciรณn masiva, veremos en que termina la novela, por mi parte, amo la calidad -No voy a negarlo- pero anhelo tambiรฉn ser rentable, saber que las 10-15 horas diarias que pasรณ en la pc estรกn iendo a alguna parte. Saludos.
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@steemingmark ·
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this is a very interesting article and see positive and negatives from both sides on one hand do you want a youtube with possibly more money and lots of content bad and good or on the other hand do you want almost like a media or wiki page with excellent reliable content worthy of purchasing. =]
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
I like Busy and Ulogs for the sidebar links to Facebook, Twitter. For replying to comments, I use Steemit. I love the competition.
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@surpassinggoogle ·
and yes, even investors, the among the first things they will ask is about the masses.
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@kennyroy ·
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I agree, @surpassinggoogle...
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@josefpius ·
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# Support
Hello good day Sir @taskmaster4450 please I'm writing to directly solisit for delegated partnership. I'm starting a show which I will be doing on a weekly basis here on steemit. The show is going to be published on @Dtube and also feature amazing steemians who have worked hard and earned themselves a place here on the platform thereby promoting steemit and also encouraging minnows that they too can make it here. 

In order for this to be a reality we need help and support from great whales like yourself who can delegate SP to help give us the visibility  requuired to push it on the steel platform. 
I believe we cannot do this alone, one to another we can make an impact. 

I look forward to hearing for you sir. 
Your faithfully
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@curatorcat ·
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I would agree that too much focus on "quality" content (whatever THAT is, by whatever metric) will tend to be a limiting factor, on the whole. Most social media isn't about that.

What might be more important is whether or not something adds "value," quality or otherwise. In other words, when you post something, does anyone else want to *look* at it. If "yes," then it adds value, if "no," then it doesn't. 

Why does "adding value" matter? Well, who the heck is going to join a site that doesn't have any content anyone wants to look at? 

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@joeyarnoldvn · (edited)
Yeah, and let people post whenever. If there should be a limit to how many times a person can post per day on Steem, then Steem should simply show us that magical number on our screen so we can see. Oh, I can only post 2 more times today, for example. And once I reach my limit, then the comment button can turn grey and say "You can't comment now: exceeded daily limit" or whatever. The comment button should close. I should not even be able to click on it if I am over the limit. 

# I would vote for no limit. 
But if there is a limit, I want to know it. Facebook did not tell me. Facebook would throw me in jail every once in while, out of the blue, by saying that I went too fast. But what is too fast? That is subjective. Steem should try to keep the rules public, obvious, simple, whatever they may be. Facebook did not do that.
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@thesimpson ·
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Bosh upvoted because you are right, it is social media, I wanna post my selfy why I take a shit! Alright! Got a problem with that. Check out my latest post, I squeeze a fart out and translate it into unicode and upload it to the blockchain.
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@aur · (edited)
Are you trying to say that the internet was a mistake?
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
The Internet was designed by government to enslave humanity, and yet, we have reversed engineered it to turn into what it is now to be a tool to save humanity in so many different ways: #InformationWar
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@aksenfider34 ·
I suppose this boils down to the philosophy of the platform and which direction is believed to be more important.
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@ladybug146 · (edited)
To be fair, I see plenty of "shit posts" that do well so I would have to somewhat disagree with your opinion. It is a social media platform and people post what makes them happy or what is happening in their lives already, good or not. I see abusers of the platform and plagiarism getting flagged but not regular shit posters that use their own content or thoughts, they may not get a lot of votes tho, that's the whole point, each of us can decide what we upvote and who we want to support  with our SP no mater how little or large. If users want to be that attached to $$ value of their post then maybe they should post what people like. That being said, The platform is already doing what you re saying would like to happen just fine, that's the whole point of uncensored social media environment I believe steemit sustains.  The reason I suspect we are not retaining users is because the way it was advertised as a get rich quick platform by some and people got the wrong idea when they saw that wasn't the case like false advertisement.  Maybe advertising it a social media platform instead of a money maker and then it can become the next big thing. Frankly my posts are hit and miss even if I put a lot of work into most of them and so be it, at the end of the day it shouldn't be about money but about the social interactions and connection we make like on the other platforms.  I think steem has a bright future with all the apps sprouting and all other social media cracking down on censorship to please their advertisers. As long as steemit doesn't support such behavior and remains free of censorship it will do well. Rome wasn't built in a day, it just takes time.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, Rome wasn't built in a day, and the free market of social networking is here more so than it is or was on Facebook.
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@d00k13 ·
The witnesses would never be able to hold an entire backup of the blockchain with so many users! We are doomed unless we stay small.

Posted using [Partiko iOS](https://steemit.com/@partiko-ios)
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Should each Steemian be like a Witness or a small pocket of a Witness? Should it be more like Bitcoin with the wallets where each person can hold part of the blockchain, the system, or something like that?
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@d00k13 ·
I personally think that it will require trimming, where we loose access to older historical data in the formal nodes only to be moved into an archive still accessible but with long term maintain ability in mind.

I would love to see a wallet system for quick historical access for the everyday user but as time increases these demands on resources will start getting insane with large on boarding and typical social media use by the masses.

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@kennyroy ·
You have a good point of view! I see what you want to expose and to say and I feel that you want to motivate other steemit users to continue and to post quality content like they did in other websites to increase the value of steem. I am with you...

The Cryptocurrency is still young; I believe in the power of Steem currency. This is the only Crypto Currency I hang on and I believe in it! I did not stop posting even the value are small unlike before. I use this steemit like my own diaries; expression of my feelings whether it has upvote or none.
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@darwindelacruz ·
I didn't get your point. You babbling about "quality post" but you did not give some point to consider if a post is a quality one. How could you say its a quality one? what are your basis? who can say that post is a quality one?

We have our different point of view in writting, what if my style or other people style in writting are different from each other can you call that a "garbage post". Can bots in the steem platform tell if a post is a quality one? nah aah.
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@midlet ·
I think that as STEEM moves forward we have to come to terms with the fact that the initial concept behind steem, the proof of brain, just doesn't work. People are different and have drastically different values. So the idea that the things with the most upvotes are the best is something that just needs to be trashed and we need to move forward from it.

Not to mention that the different services on Steem break it anyway, and mix in with that that someone having more money gives them a more valuable opinion, it's just not remotely accurate for assessing quality.

So if we just accept that that doesn't work I think the logical next step is to get rid of flags causing damage. You can still express that you don't like something, but the actual mechanic that is doing what you're arguing against is flags. We can never get rid of people not liking this or that, but what can be done, is to not give them a bully button.
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@sco ·
Quality has never been a main focus here. Only a blind man could think so after taking a view at the trending page.

But for some of us, Quality blogging IS the reason why we are here. And while I agree that arrogance should be avoided, we ARE fully entitled to use our SP in the way we want - and this includes promoting and supporting our definition of quality, and discouraging spam. It's a free blockchain.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Agreed, it is all subjective, as what is spam for me is maybe gold to you and vice versa, and that is life, and maybe some of the better ideas, and things, rise to the top, maybe sometimes at least. Sometimes, a dumb song can make it in the top 100 in that Billboards list or whatever, and the same thing with the Trending page here on Steem.
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@inspiringquotes ·
This is all very beautiful BUT the big problem for more people to join in is the lenght of the sign up process and also the interface of steemit, but i generally agree with you...we want content and people to have as good experience as in facebook and for that is needed more development of the platform.
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@eightamstories ·
This is a bullshit straw man argument looking for nothing but attention. Why canโ€™t we have mass adoption and quality? How bout this? Steem isnโ€™t successful because it lacks quality. People looking for a quick buck who come and go. People buying votes and their shit content earning more than those who put in hard graft. 

The tokenomics of steem have put it in a tough position to start compared with other social media sites. They were created for people to increase sociability outside of real life, no monetary incentive drove adoption. Therefore we should not compare apples and oranges. 

Sure dapps may reign supreme in the future. But if we want this version of steem to succeed due to network effect, low quality will not do it.
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@eightamstories ·
This is a bullshit straw man argument looking for nothing but attention. Why canโ€™t we have mass adoption and quality? How bout this? Steem isnโ€™t successful because it lacks quality. People looking for a quick buck who come and go. People buying votes and their shit content earning more than those who put in hard graft. 

The tokenomics of steem have put it in a tough position to start compared with other social media sites. They were created for people to increase sociability outside of real life, no monetary incentive drove adoption. Therefore we should not compare apples and oranges. 

Sure dapps may reign supreme in the future. But if we want this version of steem to succeed due to network effect, low quality will not do it.
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@eightamstories ·
This is a bullshit straw man argument looking for nothing but attention. Why canโ€™t we have mass adoption and quality? How bout this? Steem isnโ€™t successful because it lacks quality. People looking for a quick buck who come and go. People buying votes and their shit content earning more than those who put in hard graft. 

The tokenomics of steem have put it in a tough position to start compared with other social media sites. They were created for people to increase sociability outside of real life, no monetary incentive drove adoption. Therefore we should not compare apples and oranges. 

Sure dapps may reign supreme in the future. But if we want this version of steem to succeed due to network effect, low quality will not do it.
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@acdevan ·
Perhaps it is best to refer to Steemit as a publishing platform; rather than a social media platform. We should be free to post any content that we like - either unique 'quality' posts or reposts of other people's content. If the post is not original, the Steemian should tick a flag to indicate it & provide the reference link. For the repost, they can get a nominal 0.001 Steem from each person who likes the unoriginal post. Original content should attract higher rewards. Cheaters should still be cheetahed.
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@tibra ·
More uses cases needed, agreed. But there's no problem with a focus on quality. That's not really the reason this platform isn't worth more.

In the first place, there hasn't been any focus on quality in general. And most people who say they want quality don't really mean it. Clearly. *Statistically* little interesting long form content.

That being the case, the reasons why steem has little mass appeal are the same so far as before.

First of all sign ups are not instant for the majority of casual users who don't know anybody here nor fit into some of the communities that subsidize instant sign ups.

Second, reputation is broken, basically.

Third, people come in expecting to earn; whether they do or don't has little relation to what they post. Primarily because search can be improved. (Efforts have been made in this direction.)

But the largest reason is that there are not billions of resources behind steem, unlike youtube. Marshall McLuhan was asked, Are bestsellers something that happens, or are they more often than not created? He said: They are created. He's correct, I suggest.

Paypal began eating market share by paying users to sign up. Youtube still pays those users it wants to subsidize and doesn't demonetize. Meanwhile the other sites have celebrities on them, and the algorithms encourage users to follow celebrities. So celebrities use them; it's just a coincidence.

More use cases like video posting and games and such will make the platform more successful, but it will have little to do with mainstream appeal itself. It will have more to do with finding a roof *and* mainstream appeal.

The greatest issue is that users are not the customers of those platforms. Steem depends on value from users. But most users have no money. Almost all investment capital is in the hands of institutional investors and businesses, not mainstream users. Who are the product, as Carl Hewitt recently said. Those other site sell user data, they don't get value from the mainstream use case. Steem does; and then the token isn't worth enough by that alone to subsidize mainstream users who come for the cash. (I don't come for the cash, but I'm not a representative user, for example.)
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@miguelvargas ·
Well, this is quite disrupting. When i went to this platform, the "wise users" told me: you need always post quality content because this is what bring value to the steem blockchain. Now, I'm reading you telling the oposite. Well, I readed your arguments and your analogy with the other social medias made me think. I think you are right. I think is time to rethink steem and accept the dinamism here. @taskmaster4450.
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@hatu · (edited)
$0.07
Nah, Steemit screwed up a long time ago; it missed the opportunity it could have had. 

A lot of popular platforms like FB and Reddit needed "one moment of fame" when they were starting up. Steemit had its opportunity this past January when visits skyrocketed due to media coverage during the market PAMP.

What do you think people did when they found out that signing up required a 2-week wait? They never came back. 

Steemit should be the new definition of hubris. 

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Oh yea, let's not forget that this is one of the few coins out there that can have an intrinsic value through ads but the platform doesn't exercise that option.</h3>

# Another One

<center>https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/228/324/4a4.gif</center>

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P.S.: Incoming bid to make sure this gets on top for exposure.
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@cryptothoughts ·
Totally agree with this post, the biggest problem here is definitely the notion of "quality". 

All the law bots that try to enforce this, the main ones being @sadkitten @cheetah @badcontent are scaring people away. 

The developers of the above law bots focus on "quality" or "self voting" or whatever they deem in-appropriate, the only real outcome of this will be to decrease user retention rates.

Facebook and Reddit don't send de-motivating law bots after you, they focus on "user retention" & "daily time on site" first and foremost. 

This is something we should try to emulate here to grow into the most successful future... @ned
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@joeyarnoldvn · (edited)
Facebook and Twitter banned me for a picture that had a quote of something somebody said in the 30's and YouTube removed thousands of my videos and blog posts. Twitter banned people for typing the words "Info Wars" for example. #InformationWar
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@cryptothoughts · (edited)
Hi, yes i know all about the censorship of the big boys, Google soft censored (and put out of business) millions of independent content creator websites long before they started attacking Youtube creators, i saw what was coming before it did (the day Google bought Youtube). 

Twitter & Facebook followed suit.

This is one of the reasons while i feel it's really important for Steemit to get this right, law bots are a form of soft censorship.

Steemit has the potential to be a place of freedom, that's one of the reasons why i came here in the first place.

The other is the ability to get rewarded for time spent here of course, which i believe to be revolutionary.

EDITED: after reading your comment again, i should add that when google, facebook & twitter  "the big 3" were in their growth phase, i.e. starting out, they concentrated on user retention as seen in the film "the social network" and googles "do no evil philosophy".

After the big 3 got bigger and achieved mass adoption, they switched their tactics* and started to focus more on making money & censorship, which is directly opposite to "user retention".

One last thing i would like to mention is that what's so promising about Steemit is that they can skip this nasty tactic step* 

There is no need make money from ads like google does or be forced into censorship like the big 3 do from governmental legislation because...

1. Steem makes it's own money
2. Censorship is harder to do (if the will is there) on a decentralized system.

All Steemit has to do is increase the amount of users & focus on user retention, the price and everything else will follow.
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@empato365 ·
Honestly. I have fallen in so much love with this post. You have pointed out all the truth there is
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@everydaycoach ·
Hi, Love what you write, but what do we do too make this happen????
If every app that is made can act like the others out on the web. Steepshot and other photo apps could be usen as Instagram etc.
Will follow your posts about this:-)
Best regards @EveryDayCoach

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@pwny ·
This makes so much sense. We want people to come here because the EXPERIENCE is quality. It's totally up to the user if they want better quality content. If you can't find it on steemit then consider making it.

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@tudors ·
$0.04
I read the whole post and I agree with you. I see some people flagging other people's post because they don't consider it quality and i begin to wonder if this isn't supposed to be a decentralized platform.
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@powman ·
The 3 legged stool
speed, quality, cost..  Pick one; the other 2 will follow.
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@amvanaken ·
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@rockyozz ·
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@bsfmalaysia ·
Problem is gauging how many real humans are on a certain site. 



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@joeyarnoldvn ·
!popcorn
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@topnetwork-top ·
Every project that focus  on "quality" shouldn't be blamed . The society will   eliminate something wrong among the blockchain.  Just depend on the time.
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@jamesub ·
> others want to film a butt at the gym and post it. Whatever interests people, that is what they post. 

I enjoy doing this at gym. I share in your view @taskmaster4450 as people enjoy blogging and sharing what interest them. I can recall how frustrating it was when I tried to join the some  community,  I mean I had to spend day researching stuff I had little no joy for and this has been the fate of many no the platform In other to get an upvote. I really wish for them to listen to this and do something about the quality stuff soonest. Am not Against quality by the way I try to bring much of  it as well.
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@naturowlmystic ·
Damn dude
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@mango-juice ·
@taskmaster4450 I very much like your post mate, I am newbie in steemit and I also find that in here quality dosent matter at all. Those wjot have money invested in steemit gains a lot and always on trending page. If you look at their upvote list most of the big votes are from bid-bots . Even with 1 photograph, 7-8 words of description or 1-2 links they are earning thousands of dollers. I wonder , being a social networking site and a  blogging platform, why there are no respect and availability for quality posts? I just passed out college, being unemployed, I can not afford to pay in steemit.. So tjats mean I can not gain anything from it thou I am writing good quality posts... And evolving myself each day. The sad story is no one even bothers to look at minnow posts, the whales are dead, the rest of everyone are busy investing and eaening , forgets that it is social site , not a trading one! But, I have found  some good friends on steemit, they really guide me a lot ... Thanks to them, steemit is only alive for men like themselves. ๐Ÿ˜‡ I may sound irritative guys, but that what I am feeling  right now being a steemitian!

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@barbz ·
$0.04
Well said!
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@rahmifirdaus ·
I just joined steemit so I want to be friends with you all. Greetings from me. @rahmifirdaus
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@isacoin ·
$3.43
<center>
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> "Do you want massive STEEM success or do you want quality?"
> Sorry. You cannot have both.


massively flawed view 

<br>

i notice you mention the amount of views poor quality content has received on the biggest websites yet you forget to mention that before the shitposts were getting millions of views those websites had 100's of millions of monthly users.


<br>

those sites wouldn't exist if they started out as shitposting as is evident with the retention rate in steem which is low not due to pressure to create quality content but by the creation of shit content by holders to reward themselves, which once anyone who creates content of value sees are quick to power down and leave to the many publishing sites based on quality.

<br>

for a comparison on the value of quality content  see the earnings on the top content publishing sites medium and pateron 

<br>

## Pateron 
<center>
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Monthly payouts are nearly equal a years worth of payouts on steem with 100K monthly creators 

paetron valuation at $405 millon and have received an additional $105 million in funding in june https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/08/patronage-empire/

<br>

## Medium 

Medium started with $132 million https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/medium#section-overview

Medium valued at $400 million in 2015

raised an additional funding in 2017 for $105 million 

May 2017 medium had 60 million monthly readers


<br>

There are two examples from many showing that quality content is one of the largest online industries  after porn of course which is also a form of content creation.

<br>

now if you extend content to magazine, news etc you would be looking at 100's of billions yearly

<br>

so yes quality content is highly valuable and constantly  sought after by the masses 

<br>

the problem in steems terms is that high sp holders can be the main earners if the highest valued content should be voted since for content to be rewarded votes need to be used and whales are too busy farming and selling steem for short term gains 

<br>

on DAPPS being some gamechanger, DAPPS are not an innovation only a novelty and are not even decentralised applications as they all centralised sources of control  and have been proven to have little mainstream interest.

<br>
the most successful DAPP on ethereum cryptokitties is a great example of this.

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80k accounts on cryptokittes out of an estimated 2 million ethereum accounts equals a use rate of 4% at its height

<br>

DAPPS are a a novelty not an innovation and there is vastly more value to be created through content than applications that noone uses
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
$0.44
If a lot of Steemians are flopping out muddy muffins, AKA crap, as many do already on Facebook, Twitter, all over online, generally, then what can we do about it? Wouldn't money motivate people to write and post and live better? if money can't help, then what can?
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@thespacebetween ·
people need more than money, they need to feel like they are being heard. They need to feel valued. When you write random posts and no one sees it you feel bad. People go back to facebook because their friends and family are there and they are using social media to be SOCIAL, not make money. ALSO Facebook/twitter/instagram are all EXTREMELY easy to use, EXTREMELY addictive and they don't have to worry about different password keys and prices and all that nonsense. It is wrong to believe that money is the only or even main driving force behind people's decisions.
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@dj123 ·
upvoted for sharing great data.....

still you left out 1 important fact......

Patreon..... 5+ years old

Medium..... 6+ years old

Steem and the Steemit DAPP..... only  2+ years old


DAPP are not small potatoes like you mention.........it's accumulative, 3 or 4 killer games can crack Steem wide open to another few million users, just watch 2019 and 2020 will be the year of the Crypto Gamers....just like 2016-2017 was the mass ICO fundraisers.
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@isacoin ·
ok Patreon opened in 2013 by the end  of 2014 $1 million per month was paid to content creators 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patreon

<br>



Medium  opened 2012 by 2014 had 13 million unique monthly users


http://expandedramblings.com/index.php/resource-how-many-people-use-the-top-social-media/14/ 

<br>

why would dapps be huge? 

performance on other platforms has shown the opposite to be true

if crypto gaming does become huge i dont see why steem would be unless you mean on the chance someone one will make a random app millons use is extremely low also i dont know f you've noticed steem isn't about quality  do you think mainstream adoption of an app will happen from a content site thats not about quailty
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@nonsowrites ·
I am one of the proponents of quality post. However I do understand your position and it does make a lot of sense. We are talking about mass adoption, this will bring into the blockchain the good bad and ugly. However the blockchain is decentralizing, this allows for people with similar interest to find a niche for themselves. At the end of the day we won't have to bug each other. Quality is a relative and our standards vary. Although I still maintain that there is some level of trash content, if I am permitted to say, that we can all universally agree upon. 
I want steem to grow but I know this will come at a price.
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@marisenpai ·
I totally agree, it was enough to judge the good and the bad, that people share what they think, freely (but with respect), that only flags are used for plagiarism or spam. This is a community, and the community must support each other, because so far only a few can take advantage of everything because of their connections. The votes are free! They cost nothing, but for those who receive them, it's worth a lot, let's stop being so evil!
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@eii ·
I fully support you.
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@nigelmarkdias ·
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> Here is the deal: The masses do not post "quality" so it is inane to even focus upon that if we want STEEM to appeal to them.
Do you know what people post? They post what INTERESTS them. That is the difference.
@taskmaster4450

That's well said, TaskMaster4450.
![Excellentpoint.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcFo8qQs6ozfHVARsZcUJTt6t59DKUSBiYohN5H6dNG3F/Excellentpoint.gif)

         Other than plagiarism, fraud, 
         spamming or scamming, 
         quality, like beauty 
         is in the eye of the beholder.
##### At its core, the _quality_ conundrum is that people onboarded onto Steemit, like me, have not articulated to themselves [why they are  on Steemit](https://steemit.com/steem/@nigelmarkdias/so-why-are-you-on-steemit) in the first place!
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@nuthman ·
This is a very interesting perspective and makes a lot of sense. I myself have been guilty of buying into the idea of quality over quantity which makes sense for a lot of people, but as you say - for mass adoption you need all kinds.

I was having a conversation recently with someone on another post about mass adoption. My thinking is that in order for Steemit to grow, we have to de-emphasize the idea that all Steemians have to be master content creators as well as content spectators. 

Right now, the Steemit community is quite analogous to the folks here in Los Angeles. 

If you live in say, Florida or Ohio and have a band, you can go anywhere in town and get a gig at the local bar. The people there may listen to your music and decide if they like it or not. Perhaps you even brought some of your own friends with you. After listening, the crowd may decide to like you and follow your music. Perhaps even buy a CD.

However, if you live in Los Angeles, you'll have to invest in yourself as a musician. Any of the big clubs will actually charge you to play in their band. Everyone in the audience is also a wannabe musician (desperate content creators), so they are only really there to see if you can influence them or not (upvote/resteem). No one wants to be your fan. They want to see if they can piggyback on your influence. And then of course, there are the _A&R_ guys in the crowd ( silent curating whales) who aren't necessarily musicians themselves, but can easily with a simple phone call make you famous .

So the current Steemit model may not be sustainable in the long run unless we can make it more comfortable for non-bloggers to participate without fear of flags and rejection from the purist community.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Yeah, maybe Steem is more like LA, a higher competition at the moment, and that can be tougher for some people to start off from. I'm from Portland, Oregon.
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@indigoocean · (edited)
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I think there are two separate conversations here, the ideals and realities. 

In terms of ideals, we can debate what is best for the platform in terms of which kinds of content creators should do best here and want to stay. In that regard my vote is for multiple platforms, including one for the more Medium-like posts I enjoy reading. Right now thatโ€™s only the โ€œ everythingโ€ steemit app, which needs to change. 

But then there is also the convo about what actually is doing best on the blockchain, and that is people who have either been here long enough to have lots of steem or friends with lots of steem, or have enough money to pay hundreds to bidbots and self-vote their way to the Trending page. My take on that is to do away with the trending page and have the ui not only separate video, long form writing, photos, etc but also order it by something like ua score of the poster then recency. 

That way even before youโ€™ve built a follow list you personally enjoy, you can focus in on the kind of content you enjoy AND have it be by posters most interactive on the platform.
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@joeyarnoldvn · (edited)
It costs millions to billions of dollars to run social networks, like Facebook, and <b>THE LESS</b> you allow, encourage, reward, Steem investors, shareholders, builders, helpers, sponsors, AKA witnesses, users, then <b>THE MORE</b> it hurts the growth, strength, of the infrastructure of Steem. Facebook has bid bots, too, AKA ads. Many websites have ads. They are also paid for by trillionaires, and not just by billionaires. I love trending. I love the bots.
#
I love the Steem blockchain, as a foundation, a root. On top of that platform is Steemit.com, Busy.org, Dtube, Dlive, Steepshot, and other apps. So, I like your ideas for Steem, like a video filter and others. So, maybe there will be more apps coming out that can do those things for us. We the people can continue to demand what kind of apps we want built on top of the Steem foundation.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
The competition between Steem, Gab, Minds, Real Video, Bitchute, USA Life, and other blockchain networks, has been pushing them to be better to some extent, at least, and that is very good. 

# Money
I've made more money on Steem, so far, in 2017, than I've made anywhere else online. People can send you money on Gab and on Minds, but it has been easier to upvote on Steem. I'd encourage Steem to allow for Gab subscriptions and the ability to send money like people do on Minds. I would like to combine all three ideas into one:

1. Make money via Steem Upvotes
2. Make money via Minds Peer to Peer Donations
3. Make Money via Gab style Subscriptions 

# Social Networking Speed
Gab is more like Twitter, Minds is more like Facebook, Bitchute is more like YouTube, and they let people comment without waiting 20 seconds like people have to do on Steem. I prefer not waiting. Like you say in your article, Task Master, that style gets people hooked and everything. I prefer Steem for the money, generally, but prefer Gab because I can comment, share, and everything, faster.

# Quality versus Quantity
I would rather encourage people to have fun here, on Steem, like they have been on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and that is how they grew. Now, quality things may grow, yeah, and may make a lot more money, and that is good. Some things that may be considered as quality enough may also make a lot of money as well. What is art to me may be garbage to you. Beauty and quality is in the eye of the beholder and is subjective. We can encourage social networks to do the best to give the people what they want. If Steem refuses to, then maybe Gab will, or maybe others will. We the people have to demand what we want in social networks. The networks should compete to give us what we want, maybe, if they want us. That is healthy competition which promotes growth, progress, etc. I'm Oatmeal.
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@jamesdeagle ·
I'm trying to understand the actual point to your post. Are you saying:

1) that individual users should stop focussing on the quality of their own work, and just excrete shitposts as often as they can,

2) that the broader Steemit community should stop insisting on quality posts, or

3) that Steemit itself should open the floodgates and allow anyone to post anything regardless of quality?

Considering that Steemit exercises little to no control over what people post, I'll assume that you aren't advocating #3.

As for #1 and #2, <i>nothing</i> is ever lost by insisting on quality, either from yourself or your community. (An insistence on quality is not the same thing as censorship, and so I certainly anyone in the Steemit community is advocating censorship in any form.)

While it is true that on an open platform such as Steemit, not everyone is going to post quality content, and even the ones who do won't necessarily bat 100 every time. Having said that, I think the Steemit community has everything to gain by attracting newcomers who actually like to read stuff.

This website (steemit.com) is designed specifically as a blogging platform - that so many are able to get so many upvotes by treating it as it's toilet paper is nothing to be proud of. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the Steem-based apps to which you allude aren't "steemit.com", but rather mostly independent ventures that happen to connect to the Steemit community.)
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@cryptoguru1 ·
I agree, I think Steemit needs to alter the way it operates a bit. Everthing seems to be thrown into the one heap via the tag system. Videos, article etc... should all have their own platform within here. This is one of my biggest frustrations here. Great write up by the way
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@freedomno1 ·
It definitely is a concern we need to consider and the scalability of steemit as a platform I agree that DAPPs are what will scale steemit to a larger userbase over blogging.
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@bleuxwolf ·
Thank you for sharing you opinion on this. It is something interesting to think about and the direction for this platform. Quality is great and all, but I can see how it is also important to attract the masses through some of their interests in what they want to see in a media platform to market this platform better to attract many more Steamers not only keep the platform afloat but compete with the likes of Twitter and Facebook. And you can say the same for new video platforms DTube, Dlive, and BitTube to compete against Youtube. I can also see the argument of not wanting to lose the quality of what this site has built upon and certainly that should be kept up. But unfortunately quality can be a subjective matter so it's hard to really gauge that as you can see some folks here with high quality works not getting the corresponding rewards while some of lesser quality one does and that could discourage some folks. So maybe marketing to the masses that your post should be "high quality" on Steemit might not be as attractive and it could present itself as too much pressure to most folks on the outside to feel like they have to write and show "Smithsonian" levels quality content to be rewarded, or much less, post on the platform.
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@bobreedo ·
Amen bro....you said it the way I see it...its the way of the world right now...."elitism" rules....
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@sweetjoy ·
This by far was the best post I have read on a while.  I totally agree.  Upvoted. Resteemed.
The charts say it all.
I always wanted to do daily affirmations.  Just a one liner.  Flagged again and again because it needed to be explained with a paragraph .  I cried over that shit and I am a grown ass woman.  I don't like abuse or crappy posts either. But some "quality police" are messing with freedom of speech and how it is presented.
Thanks.  Great Article.
Joy
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@rickellis ·
I completly agree. For one thing quality is somewhat sujective. People who love cats think cat videod are quality. Who am I to argue? 
More random post!![Catapult-orgin.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRtvUFpYW5QMDz8fXxiJKcPkW2ExvAn5QnHucJSfxHJZd/Catapult-orgin.gif)
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@intrepidphotos ·
Very true.  People complain about the low quality of the the tending page but that is an algorithm problem not a quality problem.  We simply need new UI's to have better algorithms to discover quality content.  You don't have to change the blockchain to do that.
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@kaleem345 ·
Thank like my post & upvote

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