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Ecotrains Question Of The Week: "If there is a God, why do so many bad things happen?"
### @ecotrain's questions of the week are always fabulously nutty, complicated journeys to understanding that take some thinking. Anyone brave enough to tackle one is bound to learn so much about themselves and the world, and by reading each other's answers, we all grow a little more. This week's question is BIG!! 

# "If there is a God, why do so many bad things happen?"

I'm sitting here in a hotel room in Bali with this persistant infection and cursing my luck. I'd probably blame God, but I know a bit better than that. I've always been a big believer in the God within all of us, so I think that's important to establish first - at the risk of offending anyone, I'll have to establish from the outset that my God isn't a Christian one, or a Jewish, or any other 'God' as separate from this divine spark of God within each and every one of us - beyond mind and beyond matter.

![66162b3a78736e012777f89c974b141d.jpg](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/Qmae4Fb6MkbdoyHLhQHW7QZyEVey2kCu7NKucnEfxvmfVa)
[Source](https://in5d.com/going-within-the-door-to-higher-consciousness/)

I was reading a fellow passenger's terrible suffering as she watches her loved one in pain, which truly broke my heart this week. I reminded me of the suffering my Dad was going through this year with cancer (and still is) and how painful that was for all of us. In the taxi on the way here, the driver showed us two pictures of his children, both beautiful daughters, but lamented the loss of his baby son as he couldn't afford to send him to Singapore for treatment for his heart problem. Bad things happen to good people all the time. It never seems fair, or right, and certainly one of the biggest arguments **against** God is just that - surely if he existed, and truly loved us, he'd do something about this suffering, wouldn't he?

I feel I have to backtrack a little here and explain what my version of God is, otherwise the rest of this won't make sense - if any of it ends up making sense at all. 

In yogic philosophy, God is Ishvara, and the sound of Ishvara is 'om'. Ishvara is the source of all knowledge and truth, a supreme spirit beyond the material world and any identifications with it, ungovernable by anything other than it's pure self, absolutely free from all the things that bind us - desires & attachments, aversions, ignorance, egosim and fear of death. Ishvara is limitess, beyond any action or karma in the world, eternal, a supreme soul. By drawing upon God within (as opposed to an external force to depend on or escape to) we can help free ourselves from the deluding forces of the world. Once we are free from those delusions, we naturally realise love, gratitude, compassion and faith - these are a natural manifestation that happens when we are free from our delusions. 

Grace is always there, we just have to work hard to uncover it, like polishing mud from a golden statue. All this mud is our delusion - our view of what we think the world should be, personally, to us, individually. Or the individual groups to which we feel we belong. 

It's our delusions then that creates 'bad' and 'good'. Highly subjective, they disturb our minds and pollute our hearts. 

All this makes sense to me. 

But other 'bad things' are harder me to wrap my head around. I can understand that bad things might happen because of the kleshas (ignorance, egoism, attachment, aversion, fear of death) but it's more of a struggle to consider, say, why masses might die in a Guatemalan volcano eruption, including innocent children. Some might argue it's karma - past life actions or actions in this life than neccessite some kind of cosmic redress. I don't really buy that - I'm more likely to think that we're bound to the forces of physics and matter like any thing in these multiverses. LIke trees and stones and animals, mountains and rivers, we are bound by these physical forces. We are born and we die, the flesh decays, we get sick - that's just the way it goes. 

It's neither good nor bad. It's just thinking that makes it so, as Hamlet said. 

It's part of human consciousness, this perception of an understanding of suffering - how us beings **feel** suffering, how we **LIVE** our suffering. 

![5106e18ac1c87b331dd1feba9c4fb7a0.jpg](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/Qmd9PXf8juyUdUTRMvKbVzSz6aYNnFxf1Jm5bzyVKzhzEv)

And so, this is what it is. 

And this is so easy to say and so hard to live through. When Dad broke the news to me that he had an aggressive form of cancer I fell into his arms crying like I was five years old. Dad hugged me once then held me at arm's length: 'Kylie, this is just the way it goes. You know that. We're born, we die. That's okay. I'm okay with that'. 

That didn't stop us thinking the whole way through 'it's not fair', or trying to **find a reason** for this thing that didn't match our view of a perfect world. It's human nature to do this, and I dare any of you to say 'Oh yeah, I didn't feel **any** of this' when [insert tragic event/suffering here]. In fact, even **thinking**about it makes me suffer - my chest tightens, my eyes fill with tears, and I long to fly home so I can just sit in Dad's company for a little while longer, because I know even **when**he recovers, he will die eventually and I will have to feel all that grief. And being me, boy will I feel it. 

But we suffer - that' just the way it goes. Maybe it's because God - whatever form he/she/it may take (and I'm more inclined to believe it's a divine 'spark' or energy, eternal) is goodness, and we see that as perfection. What we believe to be good is how we believe the world should be. LIttle children should not die of heart failure because thier fathers cannot afford operations. Sisters and fathers should not get cancer. Woman should not be raped in war zones or in public parks in Melbourne. When these things happen they are confoudning, paradoxical, confusing. How can God exist if there is suffering because this doesn't match my expectation that the world **should**be perfect?

![Happiness-and-Happy-Quotes-58212-statusmind.com.jpg](https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmZZLctQeCX1p46MtvtxgdEcognBLpv8jzw5KsYqx5HPTA)

Perhaps suffering is just a reminder that we are not our bodies, we are not our minds, we are not 'this' matter. Our real identity, our true selves doesn't have to be bound by this cycle of life and death - it's not our real home. We should be doing our best to work in loving service of God, the divine, Ishvara, Allah, Yahweh, whatever. God's not an asshole,  but a force that's calling us to our true home.

How do we do this, then? Whilst some have been known to call the yogic path the devil's one, it's just a method like many other methods to help us lead a 'good' life and prepare for the inevitablity of death. I like it because it reminds me that I'm not my body or any of the things I identify with, but something beyond all that. And when bad things happen, there's less confusion - sure, it hurts, and might be incredibly painful, but beyond all that is so, so much more - an understanding that my true identity is beyond anything that might happen on this mortal coil.

So why do bad things happen even though we presume God exists? I don't know the answer - I'm just engaging with this human experience like the rest of us. 

But let's take some wisdom about it from Thic Nat Hanh, the great Buddhist teacher. They may give us a little solace, or to learn from a little. They are little wisdoms which have helped me, and may help you too, because I reach out to you suffering ones with all my compassion. 

- ###### Letting go gives us freedom, and freedom is the only condition for happiness. If, in our heart, we still cling to anything - anger, anxiety, or possessions - we cannot be free 

- *Birth is okay and death is okay, if we know that they are only concepts in our mind. Reality transcends both birth and death* 

- ###### Dont throw away your suffering. Touch your suffering. Face it directly, and your joy will become deeper. You know that suffering and joy are both impermanent. Learn the art of cultivating joy. Practice like this, and you come to the third turning of the Third Noble Truth, the Realization that suffering and happiness are not two. When you reach this stage, your joy is no longer fragile. It is true joy 

- *Dont run away from things that are unpleasant in order to embrace things that are pleasant. Put your hands in the earth. Face the difficulties and grow new happiness.*

- ###### (1) I am of the nature to grow old. There is no way to escape growing old. (2) I am of the nature to have ill-health. There is no way to escape having ill-health. (3) I am of the nature to die. There is no way to escape death. (4) All that is dear to me and everyone I love are of the nature to change. There is no way to escape being separated from them. (5) My actions are my only true belongings. I cannot escape the consequences of my actions. My actions are the ground on which I stand.

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@mountainjewel ·
good one dear ! and hot out of the gate!

this definitely resonates with me: 

> LIke trees and stones and animals, mountains and rivers, we are bound by these physical forces. We are born and we die, the flesh decays, we get sick - that's just the way it goes.

i wont tell you the fullness of what i think- as i need to write this too! lol (and i truly haven't thought it through... in many years...

also love the tnh quotes at the end. such a peaceful earth walker that one <3 struggling with the suffering of life is our human task, no matter why we believe it happens. i tend to rely on thoughts like this:

> Dont throw away your suffering. Touch your suffering. Face it directly, and your joy will become deeper.

.... <3
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@riverflows ·
That was quick you speed reader!!! Its a hard topic. Luckily I was roombound yesterday and had time to muse. Love TNH so much. I could easily be swayed by other views on this, precisely because its so complex and definitely no easy answer.
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@uwemjnr ·
Firstly the beautiful and intelligent things in the world have come by mere coincidence but shows a more intelligent being behind.
Secondly Our creator(God) is not happy with badness the human race face. He is trying to prove a point which is not clearly know by some human which actually is not his intention.
 
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@riverflows ·
I agree that if there **was** an external Creator god, we could not presume to know what he intends. I think this question is a complicated one. You should write an answer too! Thanks for your comment.
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@uwemjnr ·
Not i mean in the first point
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@riverflows ·
Ah.. you know you can edit your comment? 
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@artemislives ·
I spent a whole year in philosophy class pondering the question of good and evil and would never dare to answer this question.  :)  The more you know, the more you know you don't know.  In the end, WE are facets of God and WE have free choice.  :)  Yay you for bravely posting on this one. :)
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@riverflows ·
Oh its a killer!! I wouldnt take what I say as gospel. The worst is deciding what God is. If God is. And thats enough to start a war over.  its a fun debate... or not...!!
 
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@artemislives ·
I'm using steemit as the backstory to my main herbal game-biz and only engaging with the QOTW or posting ideas when they fit in with my online gameplan.  :)  I'm liking the medicinal-cooking which is a good fit.  Is there a God?  This former convent girl may break out in hives by the second paragraph.  :)
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@riverflows ·
Ah don't go there darling - there's no need. Stick to ya herbs and fruit. It doesn't matter one way or another, so long as you are a good person and doing good in the world, that's all that matters, god or no god. xx 
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Like stars in motion, things don't remain the same.

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@riverflows ·
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Oh thats supercool....thanks for noticing and sharing! You know.. i was born on 11th.. my husband the 1st and my boy the first... 1111.
 
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@novacadian ·
My thought was that there may be other notable numbers in the pic. Loved the post, itself, by the way. 
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@ydraz ·
I very rarely come across a description of what God is (or could be) that is as much in line with my beliefs as this post is. Thank you for putting it in such beautiful words, much better than I think I could. I grew up Catholic and went through all sorts of phases, never really feeling the need to believe any particular thing and at times quite happy in the assumption that there was no god at all. Eventually I settled for sitting on the fence for many years, and letting myself be surprised when the day of my departure comes. Over the years, however, my very own version of a God (or whatever one wants to call it) has developed within me, comprising elements that much resemble what you have written. And with this, I became a happier and more content person, even when the most tragic things happened to our close friends that affected me as well. I don't know how I would react if our own family would experience something that devastating. I hope I'll never have to find out. And I'm sorry to hear about your dad. 
I also have my reservations about karma. Saying that good things come to good people is like saying that bad things come to bad people. This can't be right because, as you say, lots of bad things happen to good people all the time (and the other way round). 
I like the idea of something bigger than our body and mind being within us. Every time I close my eyes, I feel like something is there that gives me comfort and is guiding me through life. I trust that it has my best interest at heart. But I also know that there are those physical forces involved in life on Earth that we have no control over. Things we have to accept as neither good or bad, they just are. And yes, one day we will all leave this realm and (probably, hopefully, maybe?) go to another.
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@riverflows ·
> But I also know that there are those physical forces involved in life on Earth that we have no control over. Things we have to accept as neither good or bad, they just are. 

Absolutely. 

You know... karma I struggle with but i think its just because i am seeing it in a too simple way. But EVERY action or thought does end up residing in our tissues, mind, spirit in some way. Then surely this action in.the world must have consequences elsewhere... I guess we often see karma as a force outside ourselves.. like a judgey Christian god saying SO THERE... but it is a bit more complex than this. 

I am so glad this resonated with at least one person! Love your thoughtful comment so much..
 
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@eco-alex ·
very emotive story river.. thank you for sharing it. .. im sorry you had such suffering.. suffering is such a harsh reality of life.. and as you have done.. we can only ponder at the reasons why it is so.. maybe we find out at the end ;-)
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@riverflows ·
Thats okay.. my suffering is NOTHING in grand scheme and I send love and light to those who have suffered far worse than I! Xx Thanks for your comment xx
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@kenistyles ·
Loved this read.. hehe now if we may, I'd like to have a little play with some these concepts? Before any god can be blamed or expected of ones must surely know what a god is right?

So may we be agreed that there is a absolute omnipresence, let's simply label it "existence" you know, just for words sake lol.

So from here to have/perceive any thing we must introduce "creation" right? Let's at this stage omit any knowing of masculine and feminine energetics. Just that from existence comes creation and from that.. we have a thing, or more accurately from quantum and atomic physics we have a vibration.

I do feel in alignment with a lot of your perspectives, I really did enjoy reading through your minds eye. However I feel a lot of our being in this finite physical experience is so focused that the non-physical is often clumped together in a big "spiritual" mumbo jumbo that at times it seems too vast for the 3D brain.

This leaving it wide open for "enlightened" ones to come along and tell less than enlightened ones how to percieve the god paradox. Not saying anyone would do so or have any malicious intent to control believers, masses or even whole civilizations for decades and even centuries. I mean, no wholly or holy god would do that right?

One aspect of the concept of god that I see this argued and bickered about all the time is what it is and this so perplexes me. Perhaps because of each ones attachments to their philosophical beliefs, religious tribalism and *need* to belong or be "right".

There is a common belife's that "god" or "God" as some specifically prefer to label IS the absolute omnipresence itself. Oh and if this is anyone's perspective I respect that. I respect what feels good and right to you.

However I pose how can this be as the omnipresent existence is neither this nor that, it is not labeling self or much less not sending commandments or wrath. It is not a god any more that in is not a god. It simple is what it is: Existing.

So for me personally, this God many refer to cannot be the source, the source is that and from it comes creation. Now to create is certainly a consciousness, perhaps not yet a being but surely an intention and vibration. I mean right? *Wary not to overstep into mansplaining lol*

Many ancient societies acknowledge multiple "gods" and with so many out there to choose, worship and pay tributes to, it is no surprise to me how the human being condition is so confused and even turning away from faith and belief in any non-physical aspects of self completely.

This however does not advance ones innerstanding of self, perhaps by religious design. Because to prostrate oneself and transmit energy externally is to pay in some ways to a pool of vibration that is not native to ones own "conscious self". That is to say it certainly is going somewhere else, however who knows where is up to the individual to take that journey is it not?

I certainly would prefer that than to be preached to by someone else who in my eyes is simply in the same experience as I and by no means do I mean disrespect to others who lead spirituality, I simply ask where are you going?

I sense a rambling coming on and with more words are more chances of misinterpretation and offense. So I guess to round up I am simply asking others, who is god to you? Then let that be it and to me you are it, you are all the creators of your own experience and you are the consciousness who are having this experience in this infinite moment.

You are the only ones you must answer to and in the end you are always looking in the mirror of your souls vibration. If many weren't so scared of knowing our true original self then perhaps we would be more willing to accept the power of our word vibration and intention on the scale of creating worlds and infinite multiverses of reality.

Then again, perhaps we wouldn't be here having, living and attaching ourselves to this so called physical experience.. now off to drink some tea.

Love to all. No offense intended, simply willing to connect with any ones who feel something greater than any external god emerging from deep inside of their very own self awareness. 歹

<sub>*(Reading back and noticing how long this is, I almost didn't post it. Then again that would be a godly waste of time wouldn't it lol. I came to curate, not to complicate)*</sub>
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@riverflows ·
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Your comment is super welcomed and I'm stoked you engaged. Sometimes I wonder if anyone was reading at all. It's a nutty topic and I'd love to do you the justice of a reply, but my head is thumping - damn those night flights - evidence that an external God does not exist, or if he does, he's an asshole. 

I definitely feel a god 'emerging from deep inside' my own 'self awareness' - I can't see it any other way, and from a very young age I was conscious that God was within, not without. That's enough for me. xx
 
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@thegreens ·
First, i think there is a lot of knowledge that the ecoTrain passengers are sharing in their #qotw and i really enjoy reading their stories. 
I also agree with you that there is God and one think i recommend is that people should start looking at the positivity in negativity in a bid to be fully concious and live in freedom. There is a time to be born and a time to die and why do we attribute happiness to birth and sadness to death? Death is certain and if we look at it from the bright side then we shall become free and concious people!.
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