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Why I won’t be compromising with Justin Sun by blocktrades

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· @blocktrades · (edited)
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Why I won’t be compromising with Justin Sun
At this point, it seems like most of the community is in agreement on one thing: they don’t want Justin Sun here. The primary disagreement seems to be how to achieve that. From what I’ve been told, even Justin himself has said he doesn’t want to be here. He just wants to get paid to leave.

So the purpose of this post is to list the reasons why I don’t think it’s a good idea to pay him to leave and why I won’t be participating in any such deal via coding support, money (among other ideas, I’ve been told via intermediaries that Justin would happily sell Steemit to me now), or even as a simple endorsement of a deal.

What’s the value of Steemit Inc now?

# In my opinion, Steemit Inc has nearly zero value now

### Wait, what about the Steemit stake it holds?

While it controls a stake with a quoted value of many millions, it will never be possible to realize that value now. My best guess is that it is worth around $200K USD, and that's only if the owner considers it ethical to dump the stake that was promised for development. My estimate of its dump value being so low is because it can only be dumped slowly, which will give the market time to see what's coming. 

This is also one of the big reasons why Justin is lobbying to get the powerdown rate changed to something like a day. The faster he can dump it, the more value he can get from gullible buyers who think they are getting coins cheaply, never understanding that the coins they are buying will never regain their value, because all the value is going to leave (more on this point shortly). Time is not on his side in such a dump, because the more information people have, the more they will realize that what he’s selling won’t be worth buying.

As a side note, all the above is one reason Steemit got sold to Justin to begin with, in my opinion. Ned has dealt with Steem long enough to know that he was unlikely to extract the value just by dumping it and he didn’t have a plan for how to profit by using it for development (he tried that and failed already). So instead he sold the company for less than half the value of the Steemit stake and  was happy with the deal.

### Wait, what about the IP and developers?

When Justin acquired it, Steemit absolutely had some strong value, in the form of intellectual property, branding, and experienced blockchain and frontend developers. But now, all the developers he acquired are gone (they’ve all quit).

### Branding, good will?

Despite all the mistakes it has made, Steemit Inc also had some good branding and good will from its role in starting the Steem blockchain. But almost immediately, Justin began destroying that via his public statements and actions. I don’t want to rehash that, because almost everyone else has already deeply analyzed those actions (most reasonably with a few bizarre exceptions).

At this point, Steemit Inc itself has no community to support the value of a coin it controls: the only community here is the Steem community, not the Steemit community, and it mostly wants nothing to do with Justin (some are even willing to pay him to leave).

# What option does the Steem community have if it won’t compromise?

Before long, we will launch a new coin that is essentially a re-branded hardfork of Steem, airdropped on all Steemians, without airdropping to the Steemit stake. This new chain will maintain all our collected posts and our transaction info and will support all the same Dapps we’ve come to know and love.

I believe all the economic value will move to this new chain and the chain with Justin's stake will ultimately just die. He can keep his chain running for a while, trying to find uninformed people to sell it to, but it’s not going to last long with no devs, no real plan from Justin on how to keep it alive, and most of all, no community to support it.

In other words, I believe the value in your existing Steem coin account will migrate to a value in this new coin. And I believe the value (i.e. the price) of the existing chain will just drop as Justin dumps on that chain. 

I see this as a big win for the community and particularly existing Steem holders, as we free ourselves from an entity that has just been dumping on us economically for a long time, without properly returning that value with enough technical development or publicity.

Another cool thing, from a marketing perspective, is we will be a literal demonstration of how a community is what gives a coin value. We should make every effort to capitalize on this in cryptocurrency media, just as we’ve done so far in our DPOS vote fight with Justin.

# Does the community have the skills to operate a blockchain?

We have more developers committing to work on this new chain than we’ve ever had before. We already have a team of 36 experienced developers, including key devs that were involved in the initial development and maintenance of Steem.  And new developers are joining us daily. By contrast, from what I know, Steemit had 4 devs, and currently has none at all.

And we don’t just have devs, we have marketing people, business people, artists, and idealists. Our combined efforts can do far more than a narrow-minded, profit-driven Steemit ever dreamed possible. As many here know, the community constantly reached out to try to help Steemit, and was continually rebuffed. We plan to be be the opposite of that, with an all-inclusive, decentralized approach to development, marketing, and on-boarding.

# Does the community have the resources to launch a blockchain?

Yes, we do. It’s actually much easier for us to launch a chain, because of the many lessons we’ve had operating the Steem blockchain. And as far as financial resources go, several prominent Steem stakeholders have privately offered both computing resources and significant financial support, including my own company, BlockTrades. Even at this early stage, I’m utterly convinced we have sufficient support to launch and develop this new blockchain.

We’re also already hard at work lowering the costs of operating the servers that power the Steem ecosystem (web sites and Dapps). We’ve identified key areas where we can dramatically reduce operating costs over the costs paid by Steemit and we’ll be ready by launch to deploy these higher efficiency API nodes and services.

# But isn’t compromise always better?

One of the first things we’re taught as children and often taught again in life, is the importance of compromise. Generally speaking, compromise is often a good idea. But compromise is not always the right choice: 1) it usually fails when you can't trust the other party to keep a compromise agreement and 2) it doesn't make sense to compromise if the resulting value trade is uneven. Both of these apply in this case, I believe. 

Making any kind of deal with Justin at this point would just be a case of handing over dollars that we can use for development to a guy who can still go after Ned for financial restitution as well. Any payment to Justin represents both an economic loss to us and a potential financial win for him (since if we pay him off to leave, he can even potentially profit off a legal recovery from Ned too). From both an economic and moral perspective, it makes no sense to compromise with Justin.

# What about exchange listings?

Some of our community depends on the ability to translate their Steem into fiat money. They will not be forgotten in this move. To protect them, we will need to get exchange listings. We’ve been in promising talks with some exchanges already, without disclosing too many details to them, and I’m sure we will be able to obtain plenty of listings as we show that our chain is the true community chain. But no matter, I’ll do whatever it takes to make sure we have one exchange listing within days after launch.

# We win by fighting, not by compromising

The ongoing fight with Justin has been and will continue to be a huge publicity win for us. We are getting more publicity now than we have had in a long time.

Steem has long been ignored by most of the crypto-space as a failed project of Dan Larimer. We are now being giving the opportunity to show that the community we have is so much more than that, and that we can emerge under the umbrella of a new coin, as a dominant player in decentralized blockchain development. Our strength is the personal contacts we have with each other. We are not just strange looking addresses on a blockchain, we share more than just number transactions, we share ideas, beliefs, and fellowship with each other. 

# More to come

Now, one thing I haven’t done here is lay out all the details of what we will do with our new, revitalized chain. There’s a lot of ideas for that, and some obvious first steps. But the long term plan is one we will need to build together. The important thing now is to align on what we value and how we want to approach the future. Not everyone on Steem may stick with us, and we have to accept that. But we should reach out where we can, if only to save them from losing money investing in a Justin-run chain (that is mostly why I’m writing this post now, even though I haven’t had a chance to express all of my own ideas or the ideas of others for future work).
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@shanibeer ·
Really? You're here as well?
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@tobetada ·
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Wow, this is making me super excited! Bring it on Steemians! :)))
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@elsiekjay ·
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Sign me up already! It's about time we did this. We have a few years lessons to guide us as a community as we move forward. It may or may not work, but we may never know how great we are as a community if we don't try. Anything is better than being held hostage by a psycho dictator here. 
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@netuoso ·
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I commit to this 100%. I will be providing all of my available development resources and blockchain knowledge to the new chain.

The Steem technology will not die, but the Steem blockchain, as you said, has little to no value remaining. I look forward to helping create a new beginning for this community that has already been through so much.

The new community in the new chain will have a real sense of ownership without a looming threat hanging above their head in the form of illegitimate, ninja-mined stake.

There are some exciting times just around the corner. I implore the community to hold tight and keep your eyes and ears open.

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To be clear, I think Justin Sun, and likely Ned Scott, should be criminally charged for their actions. Due to this, I fully agree that Sun should not be awarded at all for the damage he has caused. @justinsunsteemit doesn't even engage with the community unless he thinks they will benefit him and vote for his sock puppet witnesses.

Eli Powell is constantly lying or spreading a false narrative about what is to come. I hope everyone takes this opportunity to continue their efforts on the new chain WITHOUT the stain of SteemIt, Inc.
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@ocupation ·
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Eli has no dignity what so ever, therefore i consider her to cancer along with Justin and that piece of shit @ned.

Thanks for everything you've done in regards to soft fork, you will always have my vote. Fuck tron, fuck centralization, fuck justin... nono, fuck all of them
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@yazanarki ·
How did Justin get control of Steem? Believe me, I am not a fan of Justin or any "leader" of crypto. It goes against the very reason I got into BTC after the 2009 fiasco that opened my eyes to a corrupt and tired fiscal environment.  outdated tools and unethical practices were so prevalent, you might as well hand over the fed TO lying manipulating quacks( oh wait, the nation did it).  So with that out of the way, Justin keeps crytpo in the mainstream and he has done far better than most of us at a very young age. Hopefully, he will grow up and become the Gates of my son's generation. You should all stop nagging about his take over of Steem. If you can do better, do it and keep the insults to yourselves.  YaZEN -"see the tears but don't react, be prepared for a massive onslaught and attack"
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@maxsieg ·
gosh i have like so many questions. are we waiting for andrarchy to get the new dpos chain done from scratch or are we still attempting to hardfork justin out of our lives and then make our chain the most popular chain, while koreans and tron can do with their chain watever? is blocktrades talking about using existing steem sourcecode and just starting a steem blockchain totally from scratch running the same code? what time frame are we talking about?
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@netuoso ·
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Blocktrades post is talking about using existing Steemd code, with some modifications, on a new chain with an entirely new token.

It will not be stained by SteemIt, Inc or the SteemIt, Inc stake.

Then we can use the blockchain hardfork technology to implement bigger changes in the future.

The Steem blockchain that Tron has destroyed will still remain in tact for Tron to continue to destroy I suppose. Up to them.
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@lucylin ·
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>Eli Powell is constantly lying or spreading a false narrative about what is to come.

Really? That would involve communicating with people - and I've never seen much evidence of that!
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@overkillcoin ·
Ya I'd have a lot more respect if she would quit alongside the devs and Andrarchy. But Steemit is her religion and Justin Sun is her priest :-/ 
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@frankbacon ·
HI & rEsteemed!

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@cardboard ·
$4.66
I'm all aboard :)

### Just please, please don't name it steem classic.
"classic" sounds like old, obsolete. Now we have a chance to distinct ourselfs from steam gaming platform (google always asks in the search option: did you mean steam?:D )
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@blocktrades ·
$0.78
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@cardboard ·
Great to hear!
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@enforcer48 ·
$0.39
Good because I would flip the table if it were to be called Steem Classic. lol
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@freddio ·
thats good :)

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@d-pend ·
$0.06
I hope it's a good one! The name "Steem" has always been highly disappointing... doesn't reflect what the coin does IMO :-D
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@battlegames ·
Awesome, a rebrand will reflect the fresh start!
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@piotrgrafik ·
$0.14
SWARM, BRANE, PROOF
Those are my suggestions if name's case  isn't closed.
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@bobinson ·
oh, no, lets get better names ;-)
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@acidyo ·
It will be called steemi of course!
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@oaldamster ·
😂
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@bobinson ·
no way! it should be steemy
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@joythewanderer ·
good idea
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@mattclarke ·
SAFU
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@travelgirl ·
LOL
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@nnnarvaez ·
estimi man estimi
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@drakos ·
$0.19
It will be called NEDCHAIN to honor our beloved ex-leader.
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@itstime ·
Ned-Dbag-Chain
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@coruscate ·
🤣
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@lucylin ·
![baah.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/lucylin/zgvmxQMP-baah.jpg)
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@argsolver ·
Also please don't name it like Synereo Plus or SynerSomething alike :P
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@lordbutterfly ·
Im glad you said it. Damn. 😀
If we fucked up like that again id turn red. lol
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@novacadian ·
>If we fucked up like that again id turn red. lol

https://steemit.com/steem/@novacadian/q7c831
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@nuthman ·
lol! Please no!!
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@whack.science ·
dSteem
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@manniman ·
yeah.. plz **NOT** !BEER
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@beerlover ·
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@brennanhm ·
Agreed. Actually, the token holders should be voting on the new name. It shouldn't be decided by anyone but the majority of the community.

In fact, the entire fork and new features to be added should be voted on by the entire community.
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@cardboard ·
;)
https://i.imgur.com/Dd2zHOpg.jpg
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@therealwolf ·
$5.35
2020 is already the year of revolution. It's about time we take the future of our community into our own hands.

I, for one, will provide my knowledge & skills towards any goal that is beneficial for this community.
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@manniman ·
$0.02
Damn right, 2020 is starting to change to the surface of the world. This year is unique in many ways.
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@roundbeargames ·
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@drakos · (edited)
$5.46
Exciting news. When Justin will be stuck on his precious chain ran by his sock puppets, he should keep in mind that with short period power downs, he won't be the only one dumping... His stake will be worthless by the time the whole community dumps its own old-STEEM.

I support such a revolution and change. I will give my 100% to support the new chain with infrastructure and experience learned from being a witness and managing servers.
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@carlgnash ·
yup.  Assuming JSun pushes through short powerdown as soon as he is in control of super majority of witnesses, I would be highly surprised if the market caps of old Steem and new chain don't flip within a week.  EVERYONE is going to dump their Steem as soon as the short powerdown is pushed through, and almost all the current Steem whales are on board for new chain.
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@gray00 ·
Better yet, we can convince exchanges Justin Sun is an attacker and he lied to them already, and the world, they could just swap the ChainID for us and we keep the original "Steem branding". The big problem with not going this route, is Bitcoin's hard forking talent into oblivion, no one works together on seperate platforms. 
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@trafficinsider ·
The short power down period would only be for Steemit stake and the 3 Exchanges.  Everyone else will have a long Powwer Down period to keep them from dumping.
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@kerrislravenhill ·
$0.12
I shall await for the announcement, "Attention all Steemians, Abandon Blockchain, repeat abandon blockchain...Women and children first, proceed in an orderly fashion to the Hive lifeboats and make your way to the SS Hive."
"Not you J.S. Blye, a Captain goes down with his blockchain."
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@kayclarity ·
Hey old buddy!  I've been on Steemit only intermittently the last while and have no idea what is going on.  Sounds like good news, though?!  Everything will just happen, though - nothing for me that I need to do?

Good timing as I now have a ton of content lined up after years of prepping and sorting a lot out.  I should be able to be posting quality content 2-3x a week now. Excited if this is a new beginning for all of us!
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@mammasitta ·
Gosh! I love this!!! 
I hope HIVE will have a good dApp finally.  
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@ocupation ·
$0.20
I'm in, fuck 'em!
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@stackin ·
Yes! 😂

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@salted ·
Do you like him or just want to F__K him?
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@acesontop · (edited)
$0.23
I guess the exchanges listings can be solved over time, and considering that currently STEEM is not listed on too many of them I guess the new STEEM may even outperform the old one. I am curious though to hear details about the new chain, and hopefully you(the ones that could make this a reality) will take into consideration the current flaws that Steem and Steemit have and that led to this situation. I am not that technical but as I mentioned a few times on my blog I sure wish some sort of a way to be found in solving the rewards pool abuse, the spamming, the privacy issues related to public wallets, which in my opinion should be private and why not self voting. I know that the current chain is a DPOS one but I hope for the new one, in voting witnesses, a vote to be equal between any given members. Rewards wise I totally get the use of VP but in the case of witnesses if we would have had a slightly different weight on our votes, where the numbers would decide and not the chunk, I guess Justin wouldn't have a chance with his intentions. Curious about future updates. Interesting but uncertain times ahead I have to say. Steem on!
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@fervi ·
So censorship is counterproductive and you need Hard Fork?
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@ats-david ·
$7.33
I will be more than happy to migrate to this new chain. 

We should not feel obligated to remain on a chain where the largest stakeholder is completely hostile to nearly the entire community. We should not feel obligated to go down with the proverbial ship. We should not feel obligated to maintain a presence simply for the sake of being an opposing force. 

Let the centralized chain rot in its own incompetence and arrogance. We will move on with little more than a blink...and will likely prosper once unleashed from our four-year burden of poor leadership and wasted funds. 

The albatross will no longer be around our necks. We should seize that opportunity to make this new chain what Steem could have been years ago.
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@zeusalpha ·
As long as it's a swap, so we can exchange our STEEM for the new crypto.  I would hope this would be done in a pretty seamless fashion like BTC and BCH was, for example.
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@transisto ·
It'll be like bcash but it wasn't a swap it was coins on both chain, you'll have sell on one side as fast as possible to buy more of the other side.
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@dhimmel ·
$0.35
The BTC-BCH split was a fork. If you had bitcoin before, you now had bitcoin on both chains. Blocktrades mentions this will be an airdrop, such that all existing STEEM holders will end up with two tokens (except for Sun).

A swap is distinct in that it requires users to trade or destroy an old token for a new token. That's an interesting model to make sure the new token holders actually care about the project. But ultimately you'd lose the automatic adoption you get from an airdrop
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@nationalpark ·
So, in the new chain SUN's STEEMS will be removed and Freeom/Pumpkin still be the king?
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@stellabelle ·
agree 100%.
HIVE should have free accounts and a kickass mobile app. Anything other than that, and we are left with the same problems of onboarding. Let's do the next one in a smart way.
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@bobinson ·
$3.55
In Solidarity!   Will make sure that the new chain is in adherence  to the values putting people and decentralization at the fore-front. Any other attempts or interests if arises will be prevented by and all resources available.
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@novacadian ·
>... putting people and decentralization at the fore-front.

https://steemit.com/steem/@novacadian/q7c831
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@berniesanders · (edited)
$2.96
I am 100% on board with this and look forward to moving on from the SINMS that has been killing Steem for so long.

https://steemit.com/steem/@berniesanders/i-support-the-move-from-steem
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@decentralizd ·
$0.22
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@decentralizd ·
$0.25
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@manniman ·
I just went to your post and liked. Let's have a !BEER together to celebrate tonight! Btw. will you be president soon? 
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@beerlover ·
<div class='pull-right'>https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaHThyECGhEx8tSfHZbiMFRNYjJ35K92cDgiJjkzBUaJo/One%20sip%20of%20BEER%20for%20you.gif<p><sup><a href='https://steem-engine.com/?p=market&t=BEER'>View or trade </a> <code>BEER</code>.</sup></p></div><center><br> <p> Hey @berniesanders, here is a little bit of <code>BEER</code> from @manniman for you. Enjoy it!</p> <p>Learn how to <a href='https://steemit.com/beer/@beerlover/what-is-proof-of-stake-with-beer'>earn FREE BEER each day </a> by staking.</p> </center><div></div>
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@dragosroua · (edited)
$0.86
I'm in. I've been a witness since October 2016 (a time when the business was still run by Ned and Dan). Never too prominent, always floating around 50-60 in the witness chart, but with more than 10,000 posts (probably 10% articles). I was attracted by the initial promise of the blockchain, a promise which have been repeatedly broken, by various events or actors. I also wrote - just for fun, but I can do more - one of the first dapps, http://steem.supply (now a bit in the limbo, because it was relying on steemit API node). 

My point is, I am one of those real people that wants to contribute.

https://steempeak.com/steem/@dragosroua/new-beginnings
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@stokjockey ·
$0.06
You will get your Rewards on the HIVE @dragosroua
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@tarazkp ·
$0.46
Ok. Let's go.
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@sathyasankar ·
This is for the first time I see you agreeing to something against STEEM.. Time brings change to everyone!
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@revisesociology ·
$0.21
I can get onboard with this! 
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@deniskj ·
$0.82
I am boarding this train.

I understand the intensive fight that has been going on over the past few days but it is time to pull the plug.

If Justin Sun can have his friends at Binance open up withdrawals for him and only him so he can affect consensus, how far will is he likely to go.

There is no chance for a win-win. I will not work with Justin Sun.

I only ask you put up a roadmap so we can start preparing for the exit. Meanwhile we can sustain the fight and hold off Justin long enough for the new chain to be ready. 
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@blocktrades ·
$0.37
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@deniskj ·
Wonderful. 👍👍
Please include the parameters for the airdrop. 😊😊
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@carloserp-2000 ·
Great
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@sepracore ·
Dang you do move fast!
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@petertag ·
$2.48
I'm absolutely committed to providing my development resources and knowledge to a new chain, and would be interested in joining this team of ~36. I'd also hope that we allow for more input into the decentralization of the chain, as the problems around the ninja-mine (not the ninja-mine itself) imho, mostly stemmed from the fact that the stake was also able to control governance. I'd like to see a chain where you actually can't just buy control. LMK how to contact you/this team and I'll get started. Cheers!
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@blocktrades · (edited)
Send me your email via steem.chat and I'll add you in.
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@blocktrades ·
Or you can email me directly at dan thatfunnyatsymbol blocktrades.us
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@bobinson ·
> as the problems around the ninja-mine (not the ninja-mine itself) imho, mostly stemmed from the fact that the stake was also able to control governance. I

Well said. I have always thought the same. Its not the ninja-mine thats the issue but how it was used or rather not used.
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@petertag ·
'Put someone you hate in charge of the system, does it still work?' has been all over discord lately and it's so true. 'Would you prefer x in charge?' misses the point entirely for me. It's about decentralization, not about who is in charge. There shouldn't be a person 'in charge'. Getting rid of the ninja stake only gets rid of the ninja stake. It doesn't solve the problems we've had regarding decentralization, since the ninja mine didn't cause those either, it just made them super fuckin obvious.
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@jaki01 ·
$0.93
> I'd like to see a chain where you actually can't just buy control.

Exactly!
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@novacadian ·
>I'd like to see a chain where you actually can't just buy control.

https://steemit.com/steem/@novacadian/q7c831
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@petertag ·
Disagree with implementation there, although SP limit does make sense. I was looking at changing number of witness votes, even a 51% attack gets hard when you have to figure out how to split that 51% amongst 4 witness votes, and still have all 4 in top 20, just to get a veto.
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@decentralizd ·
$0.21
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@abdex9 ·
$0.31
I'm 10000% in support of this. Justin has proved far beyond any doubt that he's an asshole(I'm not sorry for calling him that😐).  He's like Corona Virus to this beautiful chain.  Fork his fucking head out.  Let him run an empty chain. 😑

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@nerdtopiade ·
$0.20
I like what i read .
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@engrave · (edited)
$0.27
Fully agree and ready to jump into a new chain with every project we developed!
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@drakos · (edited)
$0.87
Question, will the airdrop be done to liquid and/or powered up STEEM?
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@blocktrades ·
$0.09
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@youarethewhale ·
That's great! I feel it's the right thing to do [please leave out non supporters](https://steemit.com/witness/@youarethewhale/proposal-reward-witnesses-victory-vote-with-steem-airdrop)!!
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@oneray ·
Excelente. Hasta ahora he leído cada uno de los comentarios, y he aprendido muchísimo de todos. Pensaba justamente en eso y me parece genial esa forma de hacer la migración. Aplausos y todo mi respeto para ustedes.

> Excellent. So far I have read every single comment, and learned a lot from everyone. I was just thinking about that and I think that way of doing the migration is great. Applause and all my respect to you.
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@sepracore ·
This brings up a good question. Will Hive have a SBD like stable coin? I hope not.
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@bil.prag ·
$0.15
if we would do that, i think it should be exact copy of current state. powered up, sbd, liquid, savings. that feels fair.
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@alokkumar121 ·
$0.20
Sounds cool and you rightly said we are true community. Let's do this 💯

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@osavi ·
$0.26
I've been waiting for this post since the beginning of that drama with Justin. A post that makes things clear. You made my day! 💪
Thank you, I can't wait to hear more!
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@blocktrades ·
$0.05
Sorry we took so long, we didn't want to tip off Justin before we were ready.
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@osavi ·
It's understandable.
I cross my fingers for this project!
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@salted ·
Does he really know what he's doing anyway - Although it was amusing when he discovered how delegation works.

Definitely looking forward to knowing about the infrastructure/witness node requirements and rollout.
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@ammonite ·
$0.20
Exciting news. I will be happy to become a part of it. As a content creator I look forward to continuing with the same audience. I really hope we can get everyone onboard, apart from Justin obviously.
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@steemitadventure ·
I’m down.
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@ultratrain ·
$0.20
Full Steem ahead!!! JS and Ned are two POS who need to be cast out and shunned. Screw JS and all his enablers and let's break away and start a new future.

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@ecoinstant ·
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[Our Fund of Projects](/@ecoinstats) building on Blockchain (previous steem) will be happy to continue to develop on decentralized chain that is fast and free.

Do please consider implementing some of the DPoS reforms that would continue to keep us a leader in the innovation of DPoS governance.  This include but are not limited to the ideas [here enumerated](https://steemit.com/hive-177956/@rycharde/proposal-for-new-dpos-for-steem-decentralised-governance) by @rycharde.
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@ats-david ·
I don’t want to spoil any announcements, but there will be a few small changes on the new fork, one of them regarding mitigation of the takeover issue. It is one of the goals of this new chain to address DPoS security concerns for the long-term.
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@ecoinstant ·
Excellent.  We will consider running a witness node to support this new chain.
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@monsterjamgold ·
$0.20
I would commit to this as a user
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@steemitadventure ·
$0.30
Call it “Meets”

Perfect lol
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@thehive ·
$0.20
With respect to what you have written. Jack Miller speaks highly of you and I hold him with high regard myself.
Does this mean we should power down our Steem?
It does concern me on another level that I am just jumping from one chain to another were a voice as low SP as mine would not be heard.

One thing I have voiced since coming to Steemit.com was to use Steem to invest to the FIAT world to bring a higher value and a demand for the token. I see this as a method to bring more people to the economy of a chain.

Do you have someone I could discuss the possibilities of an ambitious project with?
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@bobinson ·
$0.22
Generally all the existing balances will be carried forward an airdropped in a fork like this. That will be including liquid coins (currency), powered up and SBD. The names in the new chain will be different.
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@mattclarke ·
I'm thinking your account name just got a little more valuable :)
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@thehive ·
@steemitQA just realised today, TheHive is not just my name on Discord lol.
Definitely got a bit more visibility.
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@deniskj ·
I had a similar idea way back when. Always wanted to provide an avenue for people abroad to invest in the African economy. $50,000 is enough to build an apartment complex that would return about a minimum of $1000 a month after costs. 
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@thehive ·
I would like to advance the project to other industry like drinking water. It starts to get complicated. Along with the housing, A rebate system for rental accommodation would provide an avenue for daily life interactions with the token.
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@tuck-fheman ·
$0.61
I'm in and have been waiting for this day for many many years since it became obvious long ago that Ned and his amateurish ways were incapable of properly running things.

A true Community Steem chain is what some of us have been dreaming of and it's day is fast approaching. #cant-wait
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@udezee ·
$0.20
> We are not just strange looking addresses on a blockchain, we share more than just number transactions, we share ideas, beliefs, and fellowship with each other.

I will call this; decentralized faith and unblemished community bond. 

In support with this move, I believe it will breakthrough and put the steem oppressors to shame 
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@trumpman · (edited)
$1.44
So essentially you announce a steem fork. 

Now to the golden question. How will the airdrop work? Do we get one new steem for each steem we have powered up or what? When will the snapshot be made?
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@penderis ·
the big boys can get one, everyone with the username penderis gets x 10 because that is better and some of the people who know penderis and have less than 10k stake. Totally fair. 
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@cardboard ·
Sounds like a plan!
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@blocktrades ·
Formal announcement from group with snapshot date for airdrop will be announced tomorrow. This post today is just my personal statement.
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@trumpman ·
Cool, thanks !
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@appalachain ·
Alright @blocktrades, It's been "tomorrow" for almost 7 hours....  The suspense is killing me!  lol.
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@allmonitors ·
Too bad our steem is locked in binance for the airdrop snapshot. Any recommendation?
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@novacadian ·
>Formal announcement from group with snapshot date for airdrop will be announced tomorrow.

Starting a new chain built on theft will not be great karma in my opinion.

https://steemit.com/steem/@novacadian/q7c831
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@jphamer1 ·
what about  tokens held on binance? will binance support? or better to move to steem account for snapshot?
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@argsolver ·
$0.20
Agree with the fight agree with the HF.

>In my opinion, Steemit Inc has nearly zero value now

Justin Sun bought it really cheap. It does have some brand rights (I guess) that he can use to legally block the real STEEM community to use it and it's the www.steemit.com site is an easy onboarding platform for a TRON token.

That's why he doesn't care about the rest. Of course, if he could sell STEEM for some $$$ better for him, but his value plan probably takes into account that stake to be $0 in value.

PS: @blocktrades I don't want to spam your blog, just leaving this for visibility and future reference as I honestly think it contributes some ideas for the future.

[Reputational Enhanced Delegated Proof-of-Stake (REDPOS)](https://steempeak.com/blockchain/@argsolver/reputational-enhanced-delegated-proof-of-stake-redpos)
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@pjau ·
$0.20
i vote yes
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@pjau ·
lets not call it steem though, it was always a terrible name, also get rid of sbd
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@leoumesh ·
lol who comes here after so long time. Nice to see you mate :)
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@mindtrap ·
$0.31
So, there is not a chance to save Steem? Isn't it like we're giving up?

Don't get me wrong here. I think this idea is good but there are still a lot of "what ifs"...
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@blocktrades ·
$0.06
We're not going to save the name "Steem". Ned nina-trademarked it a while back and it's not worth fighting for that much, especially as it doesn't have a great reputation outside of Steem itself. But we're going to save everything that really matters.
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@eirik ·
$0.02
Do you think Justin Sun will join Hive?
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@clixmoney ·
We should try to save it for sure. We did put so much energy in this. I hope that will not be gone for nothing !
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@mrgreen ·
![justin ludovic.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmTtqxb5BCYyTrCsNJMhfzhBTmPzkLKMxRSfDK8vn7W7V2/justin%20ludovic.png)

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@justineh ·
$4.30
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@enforcer48 ·
$0.50
Finally.

Been waiting for this announcement for a while. I hope the "stalemate" bought enough time.
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@blocktrades ·
$0.68
Yep, that was pretty much the plan, lull him into fighting the wrong battle and false narrative of a "stalemate". He's seen this as a token battle, when we've all really known it was a battle for community solidarity.
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@oneray ·
Ese fue un golpe certero. 

> That was an accurate blow.
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@twinner ·
$2.38
Great News! How do you plan to handle the Airdrop for the exchanges? 
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@haikubot ·
$0.02
<em>Great News! How do you 
Plan to handle the Airdrop 
For the exchanges? 
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@blocktrades ·
$0.21
Full plans for the airdrop, including important info for how exchanges can choose to support the airdrop will be via a Hive group post tomorrow.
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@mrgreen ·
with no kyc please)) Voice chat on telegram had 2 messages/24 hours 2 days ago. Nobody impressed with that *innovation* by Larimer.
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@bala41288 ·
I believe you would already have a great plan for the airdrop. I wanted to share a small thought on this. 

I would like to recommend that people should be able to manually login and claim their airdrop instead of getting the airdrop straight away based on their balance during the snapshot. And for the accounts that don't claim their airdrop within a specific period / deadline date, we can probably burn them or cut them from supply. 
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@svamiva ·
An airdrop for Binance so they could play the same trick right away(???)
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@ammonite ·
$0.10
I would like to suggest the name 'Water' the tokens are 'Drops' they can be 'frozen' like stake and the whole thing will be condensed from Steem.
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@logiczombie ·
But you have to spell it funny, like WOTR or something...
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@ammonite ·
maybe H2O
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@apolymask ·
I like your name more than "Hive". I hope they consider your name or an alternate. Though, something tells me they've already decided on Hive without even consulting the community.  Kinda bummed about that.
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@denmarkguy ·
$5.46
YES! I'm 100% onboard with this **@blocktrades!** 

This is the first time I have seen something that feels truly *solid* in the course of this entire shitshow. There are *so* many things about a move like this that feels right... from being a win for *our community* to the broader picture of it being a win for both DPOS *and* decentralization on a meta level. I believe this would not only save the community and everyone's years of sweat equity, but it will also be a *"watershed moment"* in terms of what can accomplished by a group of people working together.

I believe the exchange issue will fall into place, in time. It may be difficult for some in the *short* term... but the proof will be in the pudding, so to speak.
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@ats-david ·
I was trying to warm you up for this the other day. Glad to have you on board and excited for the new opportunities!
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@denmarkguy ·
Yes, I remember... and I've been letting that *"marinate"* since then and it seems like the only appropriate way to go, particularly if there's overwhelming support in the greater community!

And what better time to actually DO this than while so many of us are cooped up at home with nowhere to go due to corona chaos... so we can get the *"new and improved"* community off to a flying start!
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@toofasteddie ·
$0.19
I am fully IN !!!!
Looking forward to read more.
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@nonameslefttouse ·
$1.13
**All I'll say is this:**
- I'm not *against* this.
- I won't be boarding any *hype trains.*
- I'm not easily swayed.
- I'm not easily impressed.
- Don't let me down, *because I've had enough of that shit.*
- I adore this community.
- I don't want to quit.
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@ats-david ·
I think you’ll be surprised to see what we’ve been able to do in just a couple of weeks as a rag-tag group of malicious hackers that have also been simultaneously fighting a benevolent dictator. I don’t believe there will be much “hype” - just a lot of truth and some choices that we’ll all need to make. 

I hope to see you on the new chain, as your work is one of the shining examples of creativity in this community.
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@nonameslefttouse ·
> I hope to see you on the new chain, as your work is one of the shining examples of creativity in this community.

All I need is a place where I can focus on that.  *I deleted the rest of this comment because all I did was go off on a tangent highlighting a few frustrations from my past here.  I have a feeling this community only wants to move forward now.*
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@argsolver · (edited)
Just for the record, I consider Justin Sun a <b>malevolent dictator</b>.
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@coingecko ·
Good to know that there are developers working behind the scene to actually make this possible. We'll be holding to your word though, we expect to see great things! 😉
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@bobinson ·
well said.
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@lordbutterfly ·
>I don't want to quit... but ill be planning my next hiatus nonetheless. ;)
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@nonameslefttouse ·
Everyone knows the difference between a vacation or time off and *quitting.*

I've been back a month, *and that's the first thing you say to me?*

It's nice to see you again, *Self-proclaimed Asshole.* ;)
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@art.int ·
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Great idea, I'll be following most of the community (I hope) on the new chain.

**From a more down-to-earth point of view, the date and time of the fork must be made public (some time in advance) to ensure everyone has the same chance to buy / sell tokens before the fork (hence the "snapshot"). If that's not the case, it will be botched and the launch will be (as with the ninja-mined stake) forever stained by evident and predictable insider "trading".**
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@blocktrades ·
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A formal group announcement will be made tomorrow. This is just my personal message.
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@art.int ·
Thanks for the quick answer !
From which account will the announcement be made ? @blocktrades ?
Anyway, looking forward to this, exciting times ahead !
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@nikv ·
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