RE: Anonymous Post / Comment Voting & Instant Scalability Solution by freebornangel

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steem · @freebornangel · Oct 19 '19

Imagine telling the busker his music sucks and he needs you to take back some of those coins.
I'd watch that video.
It would be a good analogy if flaggers got to keep the coins.

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@nonameslefttouse · Oct 20 '19 (edited)

$0.03

That doesn't happen to buskers though.  That happens to street hustling con artists who are not homeless, yet dress the part, make a sign, appear to be desperate, place many coins in a cup to make it appear as if people have been giving them change, then holding that cup out asking for more, as they sit there making it look like they're doing nothing.  

The busker is actually working, providing entertainment, asking for nothing.  Nobody 'downvotes' that here or in life.

If someone busts a fraud, that's life if they lose out.

👍 kevinwong

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@freebornangel · Oct 20 '19

$0.03

Nobody likes a liar.
If your word is no good, you are no good, imo.

👍 kevinwong, valued-customer

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@nonameslefttouse · Oct 20 '19

$0.05

And that's life.  I kind of like to know who it was that ran by and punched me in the face as well.

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@nonameslefttouse · Oct 21 '19

> The busker is actually working, providing entertainment, asking for nothing. Nobody 'downvotes' that here...

I might have to eat those words now, unfortunately.  *The artist just got blasted, and for no apparent reason...*

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@smooth · Oct 20 '19 (edited)

It would be a good analogy if people gave the coins out of their own pocket (indeed, I'm a fan of tipping functionality). That's not the case with upvotes/downvotes, at least not as ever implemented on Steem.

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@freebornangel · Oct 20 '19

If I can selfvote the coins to me, but I choose to vote them to somebody else, haven't I taken money out of my own pocket?
Isn't that the line of reasoning used by the 'it's my stake' crowd?

I still favor the n2 and the self discipline required for it to work.
As long as the inflation gets voted to sellers the price drops, eh?

Tipping doesn't work among the scavengers of scarcity, apparently.
Only people that have worked for tips really give them.

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@smooth · Oct 20 '19 (edited)

> If I can selfvote the coins to me,

You can't, though, because others can downvote. Even the amount isn't set (exactly) only by your vote but by others votes on the rest of the pool. With n^2 the latter is even more true in practice (because highly concentrated votes elsewhere can take a LOT from the pool and significant reduce your self-vote payout).

The pool is a shared resource.

> Tipping doesn't work among the scavengers of scarcity, apparently.
> Only people that have worked for tips really give them.

I see buskers getting tips all the time. I've seen tips work in social media crypto communities when markets aren't down 70-90% and people actually feel like they have something to give away. Not so much recently, but maybe that is better than spewing out lots of coins to inflation regardless of market conditions?

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