RE: OPEN LETTER TO @WHALES: please be mindfull with your MASS-DOWNVOTES before it's to late by futuremind

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· @futuremind ·
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I've been looking at this since the notification and trying to compose some thoughts for you, but this one is tough, because to me it defies any semblance of logic. 

I think you jumped into the snake pit with this post my friend. I admire your courage to speak about something that many might be afraid to address in this space.

The powers that be implement the code, and we take what we get. It reminds me of of the general social structure of the world. It isn't much different is it? The one's at the top dictate what is good for all of us, and unless people unite with common goals, nothing ever changes. The polarization of society makes it pretty difficult. *(People don't agree on things..)*

I find you to be someone who does their best on Steem, and you think of creative ways to build community. Regardless of some of the backlash you've received, I can only see it as a projection of other peoples problems. You do a fine job. Don't let this get you down my friend. I hope this doesn't discourage you to the point of quitting. That is a real danger , an implosion of the ecosystem, people will not continually stick around if they get bullied post after post. 

Best wishes @crypto.piotr,
@futuremind

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@crypto.piotr ·
Good morning @futuremind

> I recently responded to one of your tags, and you didn't even respond back.. Perhaps it just wasn't drama oriented enough for you?

I'm sorry for not replying earlier. I've been sick for couple of days and I'm only slowly catching up with replying to all comments. I surely didn't mean to ignore you and I appreciate your time.

It's sad to know that you think that all I care about is creating dramma. I hope you can see my point of view: this post wasn't about me and about any dramma at all. I tried (in the most polite and mature way) bring up issue that is really affecting many users.

Personally I know several users, who has been affected with mass downvotes and some of them already decided to quit this platform. I still see it as a problem and please allow me to give you another great example: @ulqu3 

This user just posted something after being away for quite some time. He then upvoted his publication using bidbots and got heavily downvoted. Which would be okey, as long as someone would bother to inform him why is he being flagged by so many people.

This is the problem I've been trying to underline. It's important to create healthy mindset of those powerful stakeholders. It's not about creating dramma (as you suggested in other comment).

Thank you again for your reply.

Yours,
Piotr
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@futuremind · (edited)
Yes, the drama comment was unfair of me to say. I was wrong for that Piotr. I really don't think you are drama oriented. I was in a shitty mood, and shouldn't have even responded in that moment. 
I am sorry for saying that. 

I actually very much agree with the downvote problem. If a large stake holder is going to take away someones rewards, they certainly should comment with reason. I really wish downvotes were never implemented into the system to begin with. There are some logical arguments to why they need to be there, but I see mostly negative outcomes from the implementation, and I think a better system could have been designed. 

I'm a top stake holder in the weedcash community. It's very specific to cannabis related content. We try to keep it on topic, and we utilize flags when necessary. We have a specific system though, where if a user posts out of context, they get a free pass on the first post. We notify them that they have utilized the tag incorrectly, and no flag is given. If they continue to post out of context, then we flag. Some might even disagree with this system as well, but the idea is to show some compassion, because it could be a new user who just made a mistake. We want to encourage, not discourage. 

It's easier in the niche tribe communities that are specific to topics, but not so easy in the main tags, because it comes down to difference of opinion, and we are not all going to agree on things. In this sense, I see flags as inefficient and detrimental to the ecosytem, and as you stated, something that has the potential to influence people to quit completely. That is a loss for steem. 

When I say you jumped into the snake pit, I do not mean it in a drama oriented way, and stated it was something that I felt admiration for, because it takes courage to talk about something that could result in flags. I do feel you are pretty courageous.

Thank you again for responding maturely to my rather immature comment. 

PS. I hope you are making a quick recovery and feeling better. 

Best regards,
@futuremind 

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@crypto.piotr ·
> I am sorry for saying that.

Thank you for your words. Appology happily accepted :)

> I really wish downvotes were never implemented into the system to begin with. There are some logical arguments to why they need to be there

Indeed. Downvotes are nothing more than "patch" to wrongly designed token ecosystem.

In my opinion all that would need to be done is to create "whitelist" of accounts that are allowed to receive rewards from their work (which would make it a huge privillage, not a right).

Everyone could have an option of commenting, upvoting etc. But only those who would be whitelisted would enjoy those extra benefits (rewards). 

Thx for sharing your experience in stake holder in the weedcash community. 

> We want to encourage, not discourage

You nailed it! Punishing is short-term solution. Building awareness is what really help solve problems.

> because it takes courage to talk about something that could result in flags. I do feel you are pretty courageous.

Thank you. Flags would only take away some of my reward. That's not a big deal. I'm more worried about "regular joes" who will feel targeted and will quit steemit. I've lost already few steemit-friends lately because of that. And it's more painful to see them go away than to see some of my rewards being taken down from me.

> I hope you are making a quick recovery and feeling better.

Thx buddy. I got better already :)

Yours
Piotr
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