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[transparency] Witnesses opinions on Hard Fork 17 futures by liondani

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· @liondani · (edited)
[transparency] Witnesses opinions on Hard Fork 17 futures
Credits to @pfunk for creating the google spreadsheet about witnesses opinions on **Hard Fork 17**  Anyone that wants to get more details about the changes can visit [this](https://github.com/steemit/steem/releases) link on github


>Here is the spreadsheet screenshot...
![HF17.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdrbvZ7vR5TdNMc6UCRN1vygdAqgD33HeHPYGHRtjL1Yd/HF17.png)

1. Remove Posting Rate Limit
2. The comment depth limit has been increased to 255.
3. Comments can now be permanently edited.
4. Comments are now paid out independent of their discussion.
5. All comments are paid out 7 days after creation and there is no longer a second payout window
5a. [proposed] Add meaningful abuse-mitigation to new 7-day window. Steem issue #900
https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/900
6. There is now a comment reward fund separate from posts.
7.  All payouts now look at the prior 30 days of payouts to determine the  share of the reward rather than the current pending rshares
8. Reward Balance
9. Comment Reward Beneficiaries
10. Delegated Steem Power
11. Accounts can be created with a smaller fee and an initial Steem Power delegation.
12. PoW is being removed.
13. NTP is disabled by default
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@themagus ·
It is difficult to understand how 5 and 6 are going ahead with clearly no consensus amongst witnesses {puzzled frown crawls across manly visage...settles firmly between brows}
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@blocktrades ·
$3.33
While there are some with objections to 5 purely from the time period stand-point, most seem focused on the potential for abuse and if a method for abuse-mitigation was implemented, I think it would have no problem getting approved.
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@faddat ·
Permanently edited, as in they will be off-chain?  

BTW, this:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@faddat/i-ve-been-banned-from-steemit-s-github
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@pfunk ·
$0.02
https://github.com/steemit/steem/releases/tag/v0.17.0
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@abit ·
On chain.
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@personz ·
Does this mean that 5 and 7 will be coming out? There's a pretty strong consensus against them!
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@timcliff ·
$1.61
There are no decisions yet. Everyone is continuing to discuss with the goal of reaching consensus on the right set of changes to move the platform forward.
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@skapaneas ·
$0.29
Very informative. Re-steemed
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@thejohalfiles ·
@liondani are 3 people on that list not supporting HF17? Why are 3 rows blank? Riverhead,Charlie Shrem, Kyle
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@blocktrades ·
$1.66
No, they just haven't responded yet with a formal stance, this whole discussion pretty much took place over the weekend.
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@thejohalfiles ·
ah I see, thank you @blocktrades.
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@teamsteem ·
That pretty much settles it.
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