Warning: Steem witnesses executed a hard fork on 2020-05-20, seizing 23.6M STEEM from 65 accounts. The funds were transferred to an account named @community321, the ownership (and intentions) of which have not been revealed. The witnesses claim to have been targeting accounts which defended against a hostile takeover in early March, but at least 2 accounts on the list have been inactive for over 4 years.

Coverage:
- Decrypt.io: Steem network to seize $5 million from its own users
- SteemPeak.com: Official Announcement by @softfork22888
- GitHub.com: view steemd HF23 changes

What you can do:
- Send exchanges a notice of the pending class action lawsuit.
- Switch to HIVE, the community-led fork. Visit Hive.blog and Hiveblocks.com.

Steem Consensus Witness Statement: Code Updated by softfork222

View this thread on steempeak.com
· @softfork222 · (edited)
$192.99
Steem Consensus Witness Statement: Code Updated
# This statement has been co-authored by the Steem community, which includes witnesses, developers & stakeholders.

![image.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmPjzgxJtDEf1xzqC8yW4zsBEdi7FzHrymS3dPiwyU6oUp/image.png)

### Consensus witnesses are bound by our task to maintain the integrity of the Steem Blockchain.

Fellow Steemians,
With the recent purchase of Steemit Inc by the TRON Foundation, the Steem blockchain obtained a new major stakeholder. As another major player in the decentralized space, the TRON Foundation's interest in the Steem ecosystem has the potential to bring marketing power, resources and other potential benefits to both companies. It is thrilling to think of what will be discovered and shared with this introduction between our two vibrant blockchain communities.

While these opportunities are exciting, in these early stages the most important task for witnesses is to ensure the security of the Steem blockchain. To this end, we have updated to a temporary protective protocol to maintain the status quo currently established in regards to Steemit Inc's stake and it's intended usage. This update is reversible, and is simply to be used to ensure that the security and decentralization of the Steem blockchain remains intact.

Communication on the company acquisition is scattered and conflicting at this time, and we believe it is important to be proactive, rather than risk a possible security threat to the Steem blockchain. Since there are many new developments in the ecosystem, this is an ideal time to take a look at one of our long term impediments to decentralization with the involvement of the *entire* community, old and new. With this announcement, we're providing a detailed look at this soft fork update, why it was implemented, and how you can get involved as the voices of the Steem community.

## What A Soft Fork Is, and What Soft Fork 0.22.2 Does:

A soft fork is a fully reversible code update, which is an excellent way for Steem consensus witnesses to deploy changes for the community to review and give feedback on, which may include changing their witness votes if they do not agree. What is especially important when considering a soft fork is to remember: it ***does not require any exchange to update their node,*** and all 0.22 versions running now will continue to operate. A soft fork does not mean that anyone running a backup witness will suddenly disable or necessarily miss blocks!

In general, Soft Fork 0.22.2 and transactions on the Steem blockchain will continue smoothly across the board for everyone with absolutely no change to a majority of the current Steem code. With the soft fork running, if any of the below clearly defined set of transactions happen (it is unlikely that they will), ***they will not be processed by the consensus witnesses.*** As there is more community feedback, and the Tron Foundation and Steemit Inc have a better chance to detail their roadmap and their plans for the future, this temporary soft fork can be adjusted to fit whichever direction the future holds for everyone.

## Here are the Technical Details of Soft Fork 0.22.2 :

#### Relevant Accounts
- misterdelegation
- steem
- steemit
- steemit2
- steemitadmin

#### Excluded Operations
- account_witness_proxy_operation
- account_witness_vote_operation
- update_proposal_votes_operation
- vote_operation
- withdraw_vesting_operation
- set_withdraw_vesting_route_operation
- transfer_operation
- limit_order_create_operation
- limit_order_create2_operation
- transfer_to_vesting_operation
- transfer_to_savings_operation
- escrow_transfer_operation

### The GitHub repos for comparison and consideration:

#### Files Changed:
- [libraries/chain/database.cpp](https://github.com/SteemDevs/steem/blob/0.22.2/libraries/chain/database.cpp#L3502-L3553)
- [libraries/protocol/hardfork.d/0_22.hf](https://github.com/SteemDevs/steem/blob/0.22.2/libraries/protocol/hardfork.d/0_22.hf#L10-L33)
- [compare steemit/steem:0.22.x -> SteemDevs/steem:0.22.2](https://github.com/steemit/steem/compare/master...SteemDevs:0.22.2)# Softfork 0.22.2 has been written by community members, tested on a testnet in one of the most robust environments to date, and has been vetted by those who know the Steem blockchain best. Though it is a temporary update, the deployment of this soft fork has been carefully thought through in terms of impact to the overall ecosystem.

## Why Was This Soft Fork Deployed?

With the recent developments for Steemit Inc with the TRON Foundation acquisition, there have been a lot of uncertainties around the company and its continued use of the assets it controls, as well as plans for the future. This makes it an excellent time to return to a long standing situation that has had lasting repercussions for the Steem blockchain: Steemit Inc ninja-mined stake. In an ecosystem where we are moving towards true adoption for decentralized technologies, this large amount of stake, mined at the beginning of the blockchain with an "unfair" advantage, has always been problematic in terms of creating a potential for heavy centralization.

The Steemit Inc ninja-mined stake is a special case, as up to this point ***it has been clearly declared on many occasions as earmarked solely for the development of the Steem ecosystem, and to be non-voting in governance issues.***

There has always been a good-faith trust by the community that this would remain the case into the future. This social contract was defined by Ned in the [2017 roadmap](https://steem.com/2017roadmap.pdf), and has been an important background factor for the Steem ecosystem for many years. With the changes in the company ownership, this is an excellent time to transition the good-faith agreement into a truly trustless one, utilizing blockchain code, and taking further steps to help Steemit Inc support even better decentralization and the development, onboarding, and expansion of the Steem blockchain.

#### For now, because there has not been a clear declaration from Steemit Inc on the use of this ninja-mined stake, Soft Fork 0.22.2 has been deployed to allow for the entire community to discuss how best to achieve the original goals that this ninja-mined stake exists to support.
<br/>This reversible soft fork will not process certain transactions related *only* to Steemit Inc ninja-mined stake as listed above, and is simply the due diligence required by consensus witnesses in regards to centralization that could have an impact on the integrity of the Steem blockchain. It is very likely that the soft fork code will not impact any transactions at all, and that there will be further announcements from witnesses, community members, Steemit Inc, and the TRON foundation in the near future.

# Let's talk about the future of Steem!
We have a vibrant platform (with many front ends) which gives us *all* the ability to voice our concerns and excitement while discussing topics like this one in a public manner. We encourage you all to do so! No matter if you are a witness, a content creator, a business owner, or new community member &mdash; if you feel these actions are not representative of your vision for Steem, be sure to express that and vote for witnesses accordingly.  As consensus witnesses were elected to represent you and to uphold the security and integrity of the Steem blockchain, we are here to support everyone in our ecosystem. Please get involved by voicing your thoughts, and using your votes.

All rewards from this post will be sent to @null.

## Steem on!
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@berniesanders · (edited)
$3.80
I fully support this update.  Here is [my statement](https://steemit.com/steem/@berniesanders/it-only-took-4-long-years).

Witness @nextgencrypto is updated and running this version.
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@emrebeyler ·
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As a STEEM witness, I've implemented the related soft fork, and support the statement in this post.
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@guiltyparties · (edited)
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This is an excellent representation of witnesses coming together to ensure the sanctity of the Steem blockchain. We are in full support from all aspects. Running on this version.
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@pfunk · (edited)
$3.31
While I was hesitant at first to this idea, the signals that TRON has been sending about the future of Steem and Steemit say to me that the blockchain is under threat from their newly acquired stake and I must support this for the sake of Steem. My witness server is running the updated software from the SteemDevs repository.

I wish for the best outcome both for Steem and its stakeholders, incuding Justin Sun and the TRON Foundation.  I look forward to the cooperation between us and hope for the best for TRON as well as the Steem blockchain.

Edit: I have done my best to fill in the context of this collective decision. Please see this post for more details:
## [The Case For the Temporary Soft Fork](https://steemit.com/steem/@pfunk/the-case-for-the-temporary-soft-fork)
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@followbtcnews · (edited)
$2.46
We support this update
https://steemit.com/witness-update/@followbtcnews/code-update-witness-followbtcnews-is-running-soft-fork-0-22-2

All nodes updated also RPC at steemd.minnowsupportproject.org updated
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@mindtrap ·
$0.20
Perfect timing and thumbs up to all witnesses who stepped up and acted fast.

Better be safe.
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@actifit ·
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Actifit supports this update, and our witness has been accordingly updated to run the soft fork.
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@therealwolf ·
$2.65
I fully support this update. Here is my statement: https://steempeak.com/hive-111111/@therealwolf/steem-protective-soft-fork-v0-22-2
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@sgt-dan ·
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@liondani · (edited)
$2.43
STEEM witness @liondani supports and runs softfork 0.22.2 !![Screenshot from 20200224 010708.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/liondani/xgWuZE9p-Screenshot20from202020-02-242001-07-08.png)
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@lordbutterfly ·
@smooth shut down his witness today.. Got a free spot. ;)
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@yabapmatt ·
$2.23
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE 5
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@fitzgibbon ·
Ha! This is much more concise and clear compared to your post yesterday "Thoughts".
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@steempress ·
$6.62
We support this conditioned on it being a temporary limitation made until it has been made clear by the new ownership of Steemit Inc how the stake will be used, and where sufficient guarantees has been made to ensure that it will be used as promised.
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@roelandp ·
this
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@traciyork ·
![this, all of this.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmbdVjBFXJnEaHMGi3ogVDHi9phHKG2GrPkrAEWJ9xkXQJ/this,%20all%20of%20this.gif)
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@lukestokes ·
$0.02
Well said.
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@wattersblue ·
And what if those guarantees are not made? We take this guy's stake away from him?

The damage done to steem from doing this will likely  never be undone.
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@keys-defender ·
It would indeed make sense!
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@theycallmedan ·
$2.29
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE 5
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@novacadian ·
How would you feel if it was your stake which was frozen?
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@c0ff33a ·
I appreciate your feelings on this and have had many discussions regarding this subject over the last twenty four hours. I am really sad to loose your Witness vote, but I also appreciate why and everyone has to have their own perspective on what is happening. In fact I just had a very involved discord discussion with @freedompoint who has exactly your feelings in the @innerblocks discord.
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@wattersblue ·
Are you concerned at all about the precedent this sets? The Top 20 Witnesses can take away your stake if they choose to. That is something that steem will carry with it forever gong forward. It looks a lot like a move by the top witnesses to ensure they remain as the top witnesses going forward. If this was truly a play to protect steem (and not to financially benefit themselves), all of the Top 20 Witnesses should step down indefinitely.
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@jaguar.force · (edited)
Steem has a lot of things that it will have to carry with it, like having a retard like Ned as CEO for 4 years and having him ninja sell the ninja mined stake.
We are not concerned about the witnesses having done what they should have done a long time ago, at all. 
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@cervantes ·
$1.55
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@ausbitbank ·
$5.44
I fully support this update and I'm already running it on all my servers. I'm proud we were able to organise this and come to consensus independently of Steemit INC . Historic days :)
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE 5
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@hone.heke ·
Wow i do not know, but i know that to me this looks like criminality. 
Do we have any decent and how many?
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@ausbitbank ·
$0.03
No. Yes. Many
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@novacadian ·
Two in the top 20. @timcliff and @anyx are presently *not* running 2.22.
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@netuoso · (edited)
$9.20
I fully support and stand by the decision made collectively by the Steem witnesses. It has been a pleasure working together with you all to get this protective soft fork executed and I believe this is clearly in the best interest for all Steemians.

Looking forward to the next steps!

https://steemit.com/steem/@netuoso/steem-protection-soft-fork-0-22-2

Sun's response: https://steemit.com/steemit/@justinsunsteemit/open-letter-to-steem-community
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@justineh ·
$0.25
Thank you for truly stepping up in this situation, you were vital and I hope people take notice.
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@netuoso ·
Thanks Justine. I admit everyone did a lot of work and organized this as an entire team. It truly was a fun experience and one that I know was done with good intentions, thorough testing, and analysis of all possible eventualities.

Until next time!
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@bitrocker2020 ·
Epic Move ! Thanks for being there for us all
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@hone.heke ·
lol I Love your enthusiasm.
I am not sure it was such a smart move. Do you know exactly who went along with it and who did not?
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@ate-bit-dave ·
Thanks for stepping up to protect the regular users. I am in the minority but I have a negative view of the situation.
 https://steemit.com/steem/@ate-bit-dave/the-sacking-of-steem-the-rise-of-tron
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@netuoso ·
I won't be watching the video but if you can summarize the points that would be cool.

As far as your negative view of the situation, you are most definitely entitled to that. However, it seems Justin Sun, the guy that actually bought SteemIt, Inc and the stake, does not have a negative view at this moment.

Why would you get more disturbed by what the witnesses did, when it was done to protect your "investment", than the guy that spent upwards of $10M buying SteemIt, Inc?
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@jrcornel ·
Does this open the door for lawsuits?
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@netuoso ·
Maybe Justin Sun sueing Ned for misrepresentation of what Sun was purchasing. But not for witnesses, no.
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@wattersblue ·
$0.03
While the hearts may have been in the right place, the precedent set by this (Top 20 Witnesses ability to take anyone's stake away from them) will probably keep anyone from investing in steem ever again. Why should they?

The ninja-mined stake was a problem, but taking it away after someone just paid $10m for it is not the solution, plus I am sure there are legal issues with what was done.

If this was truly about helping steem and not just preserving the current witnesses (which is what it looks like), **All THE TOP 20 WITNESSES SHOULD STEP DOWN INDEFINITELY.**
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@netuoso · (edited)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods

The ninja-mined stake might not fit accurately the "stolen goods" definition, but the point stands ... you can not transfer fraudulent items to another part and have the fraudulence magically disappear.

If the stake had a contractual obligation, that contract remains with the entity that was purchased, in this case SteemIt, Inc.

I am not a lawyer and I know you aren't a lawyer either so how about we leave the legal mumbo jumbo to the lawyers.

>All THE TOP 20 WITNESSES SHOULD STEP DOWN INDEFINITELY.

Then campaign to have them removed. Participate in the consensus protocol on Steem. Maybe you also failed to understand the network before you started using it. That is your fault, not the communities or the witnesses.

Also, come on @wattersblue, you have a 60 SP account (~$13). And you think your voice somehow should be able to influence those with hundreds of thousands invested in this blockchain?

Put your money where your mouth is. Get involved and make a project. UPDATE YOUR PROFILE PICTURE. Something, anything, before you try and act like you somehow speak for everyone.

> While the hearts may have been in the right place, the precedent set by this (Top 20 Witnesses ability to take anyone's stake away from them) will probably keep anyone from investing in steem ever again. Why should they?

I have spoken directly with investors that have purchased hundreds of thousands of dollars of STEEM and run their business on the blockchain. Have you? The ones I spoke to personally have said what the witnesses did is the reason why they are buying more STEEM. You don't have to take my word for it. You could get off your lazy ass and go find those "investors" that you are speaking for and get their actual opinions too.

*Also, you are clearly a sock puppet account. If you can't even speak your opinions from your main account then your opinions clearly don't mean much to you. Why are you hiding?*
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@bigram13 ·
$0.25
Ya I fully support it if all you top witnesses step down now. If you don't it just looks like you are protecting your paycheck, and the possibility of you getting voted out. If you truly believe it was the best move, and really care about the site and steem. You will put any doubt to rest by stepping down. Otherwise you will be just scaring off investors, and making people choose sides.....
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@netuoso ·
The paycheck you refer to is less than minimum wage. Let's see if you can learn the technical details of running a witness server and executing necessary steps to protect the network on minimum wage. I will wait ...

Just kidding I won't wait because I know you are full of shit, you won't actually do anything, and you are just offended this happened without you being included. Despite the fact that it was done to protect your small investment. 

You can ask witnesses to step down all you want. Not sure that's how a voting election works usually but go ahead and give it a shot.
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@rentmoney ·
I'd be shocked if Steem was to attain any big serious investors from this point on unless its sometime in the very very far future. Who wants to put their funds into a project in which can just fork out the power of that investment. Justin Sun purchased his stake fair and square, he deserves to have the power that comes with it.
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@timcliff ·
$5.97
My position on the soft fork:

I do support the overall mission that the top witnesses and community/stakeholders are trying to achieve: Finding a way for Steem to progress in a way where the security of our governance and blockchain is not under the constant threat of a single stakeholder.

I however am not running the changes on my witness node. My post along with my explanation can be found [here](https://steemit.com/witness-update/@timcliff/my-position-on-the-soft-fork-i-am-not-running-the-changes-on-my-witness-node).
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@hone.heke ·
but has steemit not been ruled by one small group for a long time?
I was seeing a possible future where we get rid of  kowtowing witnesses and create a Steem that would change the world forever. You know.......... start distributing Steem and create some growth, get rid of flags and find another option for plagiarism sensible basic honest things - NO MORE FLAGS
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@timcliff ·
I don’t foresee that in the future, although once/if SMTs launch you may be able to launch a new SMT token that doesn’t allow downvoting.
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@wattersblue ·
$0.02
The precedent set by this will never be able to be overcome. Why would anyone invest in something that can be taken away from them by the Top 20 Witnesses?
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@jaguar.force ·
$0.02
Why would anyone invest in something that can be taken away from them by the witnesses Justin Sun could elect unilateraly?
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@aggroed ·
$2.65
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE 5
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@geekgirl ·
So those accounts can’t even power down, transfer and sell the stakes? Is there anything they can do?
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@mindtrap ·
$0.08
Yeah...they can stay frozen till the end of times
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@geekgirl ·
Frozen by definition can’t do anything.
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@blocktrades ·
$0.08
Yes, for example, they can still delegate stake and create accounts.
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@haikubot ·
<em>Yes, for example, 
They can still delegate stake 
And create accounts. 
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@geekgirl ·
$0.04
What if they need to sell some stakes to cover operational and development expense?
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@valued-customer · (edited)
Clearly the intended/claimed purpose for the founder's stake is precluded by this soft fork, to fund development of Steem, and constitutes a tort.  I strongly recommend the consensus eliminate the threat that the 30x multiplication of stake on witnesses by enacting 1 Steem = 1 witness vote.  If decentralization is actually the purpose of this soft fork, that will equitably solve the problem permanently, and this tortuous impediment on @justinsunsteemit (or Tron, whoever the actual possessor of the stake is) can be ended as swiftly as possible.

I am confident this is an actionable cause, and commend you to seek legal counsel, and to rectify the fault at your earliest possible opportunity.
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@freebornangel ·
Why wouldn't they delegate to sock puppets and end run the soft fork?
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@bryan-imhoff ·
$0.04
I support the intent for sure. But we’re any of these operations being utilized by the accounts previously? The lock to some of the withdrawal & transfer operations may be defensive against stake being moved around to circumvent this soft fork, but seem like they could impede regular business operations as well.
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@d-pend ·
Most likely this would be a temporary situation leveraging the community's shared vision of what these stakes would be used for. However, there would need to be a lot of trust involved there because despite convincing assurances, once unfrozen the stake could be used in any manner of destructive ways. In this situation, for now, the phrase "Defense is the best Offense" applies, I feel.
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@pfunk ·
The accounts have new owners, so history of voting or not voting is largely irrelevant towards the intentions of the new owners. What is relevant is that under the old ownership, there weren't incentives to act against the blockchain whereas with the new owner, it is less clear.  Transactions that allowed for the creation and delegation of new accounts have not been impeded.
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@bryan-imhoff ·
But it does limit the stake to only creating and delegating to new accounts. Were these the accounts that were powering down and doing programmatic selling of Steem for instance? Do we know that Justin Sun is now paying Steemit Inc. employees and operations out of pocket or could this move essentially shut off Steemit Inc. funding otherwise? I understand this is intended as temporary, but it still cuts out alot of legitimate use cases of funds "earmarked solely for the development of the Steem ecosystem" so real negotiations and hardforked governance changes need to happen soon.
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@preparedwombat ·
To clarify, was this was approved by ALL consensus witnesses?
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@therealwolf ·
$0.09
Super majority.
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@drakos ·
All except two.
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@abh12345 ·
Tim and who was the other?
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@clayboyn ·
$0.61
I am so glad to see this finally happening.  I wish it would have been done about 8 months ago, but regardless this is an excellent move for the integrity of this blockchain.
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@lukestokes ·
$1.75
I am currently supporting this temporary soft fork and have been working with an amazing group of Steem witnesses, community members, and stake holders to come to this point. You can read more about my perspective here: <a href="https://steemit.com/softfork222/@lukestokes/what-is-property-is-it-defined-by-consensus">What is property? Is it defined by consensus?</a>

I welcome questions about my perspective and look forward to useful conversations with the Tron Foundation.
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@tarazkp ·
$0.22
Well, this is going to get interesting. 
Never a dull moment.... :)
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@d-pend ·
Lol, lots of unexpected developments recently!
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@tarazkp ·
With every blink :D
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@steempeak ·
$3.33
We are looking forward to seeing the Steem blockchain become an even more decentralized place to develop our interface. We believe these moves can produce a step in the right direction ... the early mined stake of Steemit INC has not been used for 4 years to impact the governance of the chain and it was kept that way as trust based agreement with the community that luckily worked until now, we were always at risk but the risk never came to fruition. 
NOW... We feel much more secure with it being a trustless system in the future. 
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@liondani · (edited)
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@ragnarokdel ·
It's one thing to prevent the stake from witness voting it's another one to prevent transfers and selling. Even if they did do that, powering down takes 13 weeks which would have given the community 6 or 7 weeks to prepare a countermeasure should they power down, transfer and power back up.
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@therealwolf ·
Even 6 weeks worth of power down could have **massive** effects on Steem governance.
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@smooth ·
Even ONE week would have a massive effect. Not necessarily unilateral control but still enormous influence, by itself probably in the top 5 stakeholders on the entire platform. It isn't practical or meaningful to talk about non-voting without preventing power down in my opinion.
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@roelandp ·
besides the giving reasoning: a started powerdown could only be stopped either by the keyholder, or a hardfork. A hardfork would be a way more drastic implementation which also requires exchanges to update the software.
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@r0nd0n ·
$1.44
Justin bought this stake, and if you want to counter it, buy more steem. Or, at least be consistent and include all ninjamined accounts.

To be clear, Justin's actions and FUD have made me greatly concerned about the future of Steem. But we all knew about the huge Steemit Inc stake and its potential for abuse. This is a stake-based platform, and in doing this, it will set a dangerous precedent in the future of the platform.
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@guiltyparties ·
$0.94
While everyone recognizes the fact that Justin made a purchase of a company and its holdings, with any merger/acquisition comes a process of due diligence. We are responsible for the sanctity of the Steem blockchain and its excellent community first and foremost.
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@r0nd0n ·
$0.02
>We are responsible for the sanctity of the Steem blockchain

I would argue this soft fork goes against that. This is a stake based platform, and what this essentially does is says "your stake matters, but don't have too much of it".
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE 5
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@d-pend ·
That view obviously has a very good point. And raises the question: is the motive for this action expediency motivated by fear? Does it violate basic principles of what the chain stands for in a "ends justifies the means" fallacy? Or it an example of the valid use of supermajority consensus to protect those very basic principles?
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@lukestokes ·
And this is the important question. Was this a blockchain protecting itself similar to a <a href="https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/User_Activated_Soft_Fork">User Activated Soft Fork</a> or something worse? Either way, the code is temporarily and can easily be changed.
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@ericwilson ·
After transcribing his stream I have no interest in giving him any trust.
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@r0nd0n ·
I agree, Justin <a href="https://cointelegraph.com/news/tron-community-in-uproar-as-genesis-coins-used-in-super-reps-vote">has shown to be less than trustworthy</a> in similar situations. However, this goes against the principles of the platform, and will remove more integrity than this purports to retain.
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@netuoso ·
$0.04
The elected witnesses made this decision together in the best interest of Steem, and if you want to counter it, remove your votes for those witnesses and take them out of the Top 20.
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@riverhead ·
$4.43
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@azircon ·
$0.36
As a stakeholder and activist, I am good with this. Thank you!
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@trumpman ·
$0.02
So instead of making a simple change like limiting the maximum number of witness votes an account can cast (which effectively would stop Justin from taking over) you lock his stake (that he bought!).
Sounds like commie bs to me.
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@howo ·
$0.26
Lots of solutions were thought of and none satisfied those requirements except this one: 

- Quick to execute on
- Reversible 
- Doesn't require big code changes

Changing the way witnesses are voted is a heavy code change that cannot be taken lightly. And one that wouldn't really prevent that stake from being used to vote top 20 witnesses anyways, he can power down and put his stake on various accounts and call it a day.

He bought stake that was earmarked for a specific purpose, if ned sold steemit and then bought it again could he use this stake in whatever fashion he wants even though there was a social contract regarding this stake aka it would exclusively be used for steem development.
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@d-pend ·
I'm wondering whether parts of this are a bit drastic, as well.
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@guiltyparties ·
That wouldn't have been a simple change and of course any application of mitigation strategies can change over time as reasonably plausible.
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@valued-customer · (edited)
$0.07
I have strongly advocated for the normalization of witness votes as you describe, by depleting the VP of witness votes 100%.  I note that solution would not only eliminate the danger of the founder's stake executing instant governance of Steem, but would reduce the 30x multiplication of the influence of large stakeholders over witnesses as well.

Perhaps this route was taken because large stakeholders other than @justinsunsteemit were not impacted.  While I understand the necessity of securing the decentralization of the blockchain, I note that the multiplication of the influence of large stakeholders 30x on witnesses is a dramatic reduction of decentralization.

In the near future, I suggest normalizing the influence of stake by effecting 1 Steem = 1 Witness vote, to end the dramatic inflation of influence presently granted substantial hodlings of stake, which is exactly why the founder's stake, now held by Tron, presents the centralizing potential noted.
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@lordbutterfly ·
"Bullshit" is how that stake came to be...
He bought "dirty" stake that came with strings attached. Its his problem Ned fucked him over. He should take that to Ned. 
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@novacadian ·
STINC's stake is not the only Ninja Mined stake. But you probably know *that* already.
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@smooth ·
$0.06
Without debating the merits of that 'solution' (I don't believe it would work, nor that it is necessarily good for Steem overall), as a practical matter, that could only be done with a hard fork (which requires all nodes, including those supporting apps and exchanges to update), as well as the significant and complicated code changes mentioned by @howo, so not even feasible.
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@trumpman ·
Thanks for explaining (simply) why this would be impossible with a soft fork.
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@isnochys ·
I fully support the actions of the Polit Bureau
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@inertia ·
# What a joke.

One of the things we could always say about Steem is that it was censorship resistant.  Even if you got a downvote, it's not censorship because what you said at least made it to the blockchain.

But now, we have witnesses actively engaging in censorship by intentionally and preemptively ignoring operations to head off what amounts to a "what if" scenario.

Got that?  Witnesses are willing to abandon the principles of blockchain technology just because they're scared.  Now it's up to us, the community, to demonstrate we still want to uphold the principles of the platform.

Your choice: **a)** preserving chain integrity or **b)** destroying chain integrity

If you would like to dump these witnesses, consider setting me as your witness proxy.

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<img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmRVjbipAVQAgtsVR91H3ragpYfoPXuLj1AxUwf1WJiSsJ/1fe211777aae8c6f4450ef56403e8d00.jpg" />
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### How to set me as your witness proxy.

Browse to https://steemitwallet.com/~witnesses and scroll to the very bottom.  You can choose me as your proxy by typing `inertia` and clicking **Set Proxy**.  Doing so authorizes that I may vote for witnesses on your behalf.  Remember, this will reset your current witness selection.
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@holoz0r ·
Agreed, feels like ransom to me... 
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@oldtimer ·
It is.
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@holoz0r ·
Set you as my proxy. 
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@lukestokes ·
This is a temporary solution. I share many of your concerns about how someone else's property is being handled here.  I put <a href="https://steemit.com/softfork222/@lukestokes/what-is-property-is-it-defined-by-consensus">my thoughts here</a>. A blockchain is permissionless and immutable. This is similar to a <a href="https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/User_Activated_Soft_Fork">User Activated Soft Fork</a>. We also need to evolve past nation states defining property and this might be an important step in that direction. Those who disagree should certainly vote. Thank you for providing a proxy to make this easy.
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@oldtimer ·
News in the press and consequences will not be temporary.
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE 5
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@pfunk · (edited)
$0.04
I appreciate your position and initially I felt this way. However there are enough signals and inconsistencies from the TRON side of the equation that show there is an unignorable potential threat to the continued existence of the Steem blockchain.  The participating witnesses came to decide that it would be better to proactively address this with a temporary and reversible soft fork rather than having to reactively address it with a hard fork which would be incredibly more difficult and divisive.

Here are some links that helped put me over the fence on this decision:
[Tron Community in Uproar as Genesis Coins Used in Super Reps Vote - Feb 19th, 2020](https://cointelegraph.com/news/tron-community-in-uproar-as-genesis-coins-used-in-super-reps-vote)

February 17th, Justin Sun signaling the original plan was still in place,  despite some talk to the contrary in the AMA on the 15th: https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1229304521123192832

>**Justin Sun**
>Steemit to Shift Its Proprietary Blockchain & Token to #TRON Network.
#TRON has just partnered with @steemit
, a major blockchain-based blogging & social networking website to provide its network for #Steemit services.

February 18th Justin Sun tweets a link to a video which continues to indicate the intention to deprecate Steem: https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1229696090552717312


![image.png](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmV8BDiYPhTduefrkpw79Pu2Ae39ayPD2c8gTUNDm2iLn6/image.png)


Edit: I expanded upon the background as much as I could in this post: [The Case For the Temporary Soft Fork](https://steemit.com/steem/@pfunk/the-case-for-the-temporary-soft-fork)
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@therealwolf ·
$0.16
I always appreciated your dev know-how, inerta, and even though we seemingly completely disagree on this subject, I still respect you.

> One of the things we could always say about Steem is that it was censorship resistant.

It was never truly censorship resistant, without excluding the Steemit Inc stake. Which was only being done based on good faith and at this point, good faith is sadly not good enough anymore.

There is no way for the community to counter potentially 80m SP in witness voting and that stake wasn't created or bought organically. Now, nobody is saying that Steemit Inc would do that, **but** simply trusting would be foolish.
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@smooth · (edited)
$0.22
> It was never truly censorship resistant, without excluding the Steemit Inc stake. Which was only being done based on good faith and at this point, good faith is sadly not good enough anymore.

QFT

> Now, nobody is saying that Steemit Inc would do that, but simply trusting would be foolish.

Steemit _did_ do that. They went ahead and deployed its stake to vote in all of its own witnesses and force through a hard fork in order to reverse the incompetence of its founders who had their keys stolen (while most if not all of the other responsible large stakeholders were not idiots and did not get their keys stolen). This is documented on the chain. Centralized stake = not decentralized and not censorship-resistant.
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@liondani ·
$0.15
>  Even if you got a downvote, it's not censorship because what you said at least made it to the blockchain.
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@oldtimer ·
You couldn't say it better. 
I wonder why they didn't freeze all ninja mined steem.
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@enginewitty · (edited)
Can't justify setting you as my proxy since I am a witness, but I am fully against this tyrannical bs.
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@smooth ·
Proxy is never really needed, you can always look at his votes and make the same votes directly yourself.
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@starkerz ·
I respect this stance @interia
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@epic-fail ·
$0.05
Justin has no obligation not use the ill-gotten STEEM from the Ninja Mine for devious actions. The very beginnings of this Blockhain lacked integrity. As of today we finally have the integrity you speak of. This is in fact a one of a kind situation and must be dealt with as such. Maybe Justin will think before going on another shopping Spree. He saw us as some cute puppies in the window but now realizes we're a pack of Wolves with sharp teeth and a whole hell of a lot of wit, knowledge and sense of community. Now he's on OUR Blockchain and if he wants to walk on the grass he's gonna need to scoop up our poop. Ned did us a great disservice on many levels. He put us in this position. He could have made the sale of Steemit Inc contingent upon honoring the "Social Agreement" he made with the community. We need this defensive proactive measure in order to force some clarity and some FUCKING GODAMN COMMUNICATION from Steemit Inc. Their lack of communication simply forces our hand because we have to assume the worse. They basically set themselves up for this. Justin has also proven himself untrustworthy on numerous occasions so I am quite satisfied with this Softfork.
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@lordbutterfly ·
$0.04
>Witnesses are willing to abandon the principles of blockchain technology 

How did they abandon it? The beginning of this chain lacked integrity. The stake gained is tainted stake that came with strings attached. 
We all knew that. Justin might have not but he should take that to Ned. 


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@ats-david ·
> How did they abandon it? 

They (we) didn’t. It’s literally our most important job - to secure the blockchain against any *potential* threats/attacks. It doesn’t matter if Justin Sun is the most swell guy in the world, if there’s a chance that this stake can be used to take control of the entire chain (and that is in fact a possibility), we should do our best to mitigate that risk. 

Other than signing blocks, it’s pretty much our only obligation. 

The fact that this was not done before today is unfortunate. And this is only a temporary solution to what is a very specific issue. However, the potential threat has been mitigated for now and we look forward to any discussions that the community can now have with the new Steemit ownership.
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@oldtimer ·
$0.02
I don't need to set a proxy. Just removed them all.
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@ats-david · (edited)
$1.79
It was good to finally see some coordination to address blockchain security risks. I, @ats-witness, am in full support of the actions taken and have an [official statement](https://steemit.com/steem/@ats-david/statement-on-steem-soft-fork-0-22-2) posted. I invite anyone to read it and leave me comments and I will answer them.
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE !DERANGED
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@deranged.coin ·
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@abh12345 ·
Alright, onwards!
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@blocktrades ·
$6.89
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@atma.love ·
$0.03
Therefore, i've just voted for you as a witness.

Thank you
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@sgt-dan ·
!SHADE !DERANGED
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@hone.heke ·
Are you not in support of this move  sgt-dan ?
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@deranged.coin ·
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@kus-knee ·
$0.02
A good precautionary move that has already had a positive  effect. Within hours a response by @justinsunsteemit wanting to meet with the top witnesses!
I look forward to positive results!
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@gerber ·
$0.23
good moment to pick few witnesses to vote on :)
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@d-pend · (edited)
$1.85
This is amazing. Real strength of this chain is shown right here. Gratitude for all the hard work of dedicated witnesses to make this happen and protect the Steem community. 

*Noteβ€”I also would like to see the views of those witnesses who have qualms with how things are being done to make sure there is not overreaction/overextension of limitation going on.*

EDIT: Something that concerns me a bit is the "preparing for the worst scenario" mentality. It is possible that Sun and Tron intend to use some of those stakes benevolently in delegation or otherwise. *(Actually, looks like they would still be able to delegate.)* I know being optimistic is often seen as naivety, but by comparison it is equally imbalanced to expect a negative outcome.

The other quandary that comes up is whether or not this is setting a bad precedent for the future of this chain's politics. Especially in the scenario of substantial appreciation of the token value, I could see a devolution into petty squabbles among factions of witnesses ruining the integrity of the chain and undermining investor's trust in its viability as a store of value.

<sub>Self-upvoted for visibility.</sub>
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@freebornangel ·
Delegation takes steem out of your rewards.
It is not a benign act.
It is hostile to every other account.
When whales vote/delegate, we all get less.
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@d-pend ·
Higher amount of STU rewards does not necessarily mean a greater value if no one uses the platform. Reducing rewards by re-allocating how and to whom they flow can potentially drive the token price upwards.
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@toofasteddie ·
$0.23
Excellent approach, thanks to the witness community!
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@acesontop ·
$0.23
That's great news in times of total silence from Tron Foundation and Justin Sun. I hope that this update will ensure Steem's decentralisation further into the future and promise to readjust my witnesses votes as of tomorrow. Glad to see Consensus and community related actions.
Thank you all. 
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@drakos ·
$2.56
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@sgt-dan ·
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@oresteg ·
Hay que apoyar esta proyecto, asi es
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@atma.love ·
I fully support this. Way to go!

Please investigate the Matrix-8 Platform as a possibility for future governance of Steem. Find out more here: https://steempeak.com/steemit/@matrix-8/a-newbie-s-combination-introduction-and-white-paper

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@acidyo ·
$1.49
Been a long weekend and discussions before that, @ocd-witness is also fully supporting this update, hoping for the best outcome for both chains and communities.
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@atma.love ·
Thank you @acidyo / @ocdwitness for supporting this update.

PLEASE investigate the Matrix-8 Multi-Level Governance Platform to be, as a potential system of governance for Steem. You can begin to find out about it here: https://steempeak.com/naturalmedicine/@atma.love/why

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@sgt-dan ·
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@nelyp ·
$0.23
This is getting interesting. Waiting for *some* users' comments
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@ospro ·
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@sgt-dan ·
And here you have a *user comment*.  I salute the consensus witnesses for making a hard choice to *protect* **Our Blockchain**.

I understand the reasoning of the *dissenters*, but this action was needed and prompted by the mixed messages coming from Justin Sun. I am sure that it was a very difficult decision to make, but a necessary *temporary measure* until we know *what in the hell is going on!*

As a user and small stakeholder in the STEEM ecosystem, I am in full support of this action as long as it is a *temporary one*. **Ned is the villain** here, *no one else to include Justin Sun*. Hopefully, this all gets sorted out.
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@geekgirl ·
$0.26
At first look, my reaction is that witnesses have gone mad. While I understand the reasoning behind this, I think it is an extreme measure that undermines the blockchain integrity. Once acquisition happened those stakes were no longer ninja-minded. 

If this is a negotiation tactic to bring the other side to table to work out a mutually beneficial and long term solution, I think it is smart. 

I don’t think this is a good permanent solution. Sounds like β€œwe were scared of a hostile take over, so let’s attack first”. 

Let the power battles begin!
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@valued-customer ·
$0.08
>"...those stakes were no longer ninja-minded."

This is true.  The Steem community has been, as @starkerz noted recently, quite naive, lulled into trust by @ned's lack of pecuniary intent and avarice.  This is a trustless platform, or should be.  The founder's stake has continuously been claimed as solely intended for use by development initiatives, and this verbal (written) allegation has sufficed to preclude concerns of it being deployed to centralize governance of Steem.

However, that threat has always existed, mostly due to the 30x multiplication of the influence of substantial hodlings of stake over the witnesses.  It is this mechanism that made of the founder's stake a centralizing threat.  As long as the substantial stakeholders could trust @ned not to use that stake, their influence on governance was dramatically increased, and they clearly benefited from this.

This temporary solution but points to the need a decentralized trustless platform has to prevent concentration of influence on governance through code that enables some stake to wield more influence than other stake.  Eliminating the 30x multiplication of the influence of substantial stake on governance eliminates any threat of @justinsunsteemit, or heirs, beneficiaries, or assigns to exercise instant governance of Steem.  It also makes all Steem equally influential, from large or small stakeholders, in witness elections.

1 Steem = 1 witness vote is the fair and equitable way to solve the problem temporarily mitigated by this soft fork, as well as the undue influence that has heretofore inured to large stakeholders over the majority of the community.
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@geekgirl ·
I think other measures like significantly decreasing amount of witness votes an account can cast would produce better results and further decentralize the chain.
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@netuoso ·
$0.08
> Once acquisition happened those stakes were no longer ninja-minded.

Seems like essentially if you do something bad, its ok as long as you sell it off.

If I steal a car and sell it to someone, they get to keep that car regardless of what the true owner says?
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@marki99 · (edited)
Your argument makes no sense because no one said the ninja mine is okay. When it is sold, then the bad action has been done. Ninja mine for profit = bad. 

But the person who bought the stake is not responsible for the actions of the previous holder of that stake. 

If I sold you 1000 Steem and was abusing my stake, upvoting myself 10 times a day, does that mean that you should now be downvoted by spam preventers?

And to answer your car example, if the car was sold illegally, then yes, it still belongs to the original owner. However, if the transaction was completely legal, then it belongs to the buyer. Other problems are not his to deal with. 

Tron acquired their stake fairly.
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@geekgirl · (edited)
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If this was really something bad, witnesses should have taken these measures long time ago. Inaction has legitimized the stakes long tine ago. Ned himself said they Steemit Inc do not owe anybody anything. Witnesses didn’t do anything then either. So justifying these measures with claims of β€œninja-mine” are not reasonable. These stakes are fully paid for.

I expect a fight back to protect their investment. Hopefully mutually beneficial resolution will be reached. 

I share the concerns of potential hostile take over, but I don’t think keeping funds hostage is a good way to achieve any fruitful results.
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@smooth ·
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> Once acquisition happened those stakes were no longer ninja-minded

Sorry I can't agree on this point, particularly in so far as the transaction was described as acquisition of the company. I fail to see how the identity of the sharesholders of a company, or a change in the list of shareholders, changes anything about a particular block of stake that was ninja mined to support development of the ecosystem.

If the stake alone was sold (not that there is any evidence of this), then I would think either there would or should have been disclosure of any baggage associated with the asset (whether legal, reputational, unrealized risks, or pertaining to strategic business considerations surrounding the use of the asset). If not then it seems like something for the parties to the sale to work out.
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@blockbrothers ·
$0.96
Any Hard (or Soft fork) that proposes to fork out any account or limit the actions of an account on the Steem blockchain we will oppose now and in the future and anyone on the Steem blockchain should be able to do with their stake whatever they want.

We would have liked to have seen more communications and talks between Witnesses, Steemit Inc. and the TRON foundation.
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@pfunk ·
$0.31
To be clear, this is a temporary and reversible soft fork.
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@oldtimer ·
That's the whole purpose of proof of stake platform. 
You weren't invited in a secret slack?
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@ats-david ·
They were invited, yes.
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@roger5120 ·
I have a question? As of today I’m not able to access my account from steemit.com but can for other frontends. Is my not accessing my steemit account has something to do with that? I don’t know, just asking cause it’s weird to me. Thanks
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@smooth ·
You will have to take that up with steemit.com support. If your account works on other platforms then it isn't a blockchain issue.
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@sgt-dan ·
I guess it is time for me to look at my witnesses that are associated with this account. **We** the end-users and the blockchain itself is being *protected* by the supporters of this temporary measure.

My witnesses *protect* **the blockchain**, when they *don't?* I find a *new witness* that will!
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@abitcoinskeptic ·
$0.25
Time for negotiations 
with SteemiTron on equal-footing. The witnesses have spoken.
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@d-pend ·
That's a good point. This creates a more level negotiation between equals.
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@deniskj ·
$0.02
Looks like an old school Mexican standoff. Love the idea of being prepared for a possible hostile take over. 
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@d-pend ·
an apt metaphor.
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@soyrosa ·
$0.23
For who is reading: We are discussing the Soft Fork *NOW* at [minnowpond.org](http://minnowpond.org/) / the PALnet server.
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@jaguar.force · (edited)
Make sure to mention who broke the NAP first ;)
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@roelandp ·
$5.95
I support and run this update on my witness @roelandp. It has been an intense 10 days but great worker with a big group of long term Steem stakeholders, consisting of investors, community members, witnesses. 

I will issue my own views shortly on my account - but the gist is: 
1. This is a preventive temporarily measure - softfork nonetheless
2.  The Steemit inc stake is a special fund, just like @steem.dao is and should have had been coded with special ruleset long time ago. 
3. Mixed signals from the new owner of the Steemit stake rise the risks in irreversible use of the stake. 
4. Again: this is temporal and done for the s(t)ake of the Steem chain. Your chain, our chain.
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@atma.love ·
Thank you for protecting Steem @roelandp  Voted for you as witness.

PLEASE investiate the Matrix-8 Multi-Level Governance Platform to be, as a potential system of governance for Steem. You can begin to find out about it here: https://steempeak.com/naturalmedicine/@atma.love/why

Namaste
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@hone.heke ·
Its not a good thing
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@wattersblue ·
It's not temporary if he doesn't meet these strong armed demands though, correct?
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@jaguar.force ·
Please show me on this rat doll where the witnesses touched you.
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@stackin ·
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@threespeak · (edited)
$0.06
We support this soft fork, based on it being presented as a win win for Steemit inc (under Tron) and Steem blockchain.  Steemit inc / Tron has an opportunity to publicly demonstrate its support for true decentralization by supporting this fork.  Based on this, we expect this current soft fork to be temporary and removed based on the successful outcomes of future talks between witnesses and Steemit inc / Tron.
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@justineh ·
$1.23
I fully support this Important update to ensure the security of the Steem blockchain. C-squared is in the process of updating.
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